Well here it is - the 720S
Discussion
TP321 said:
No of course they dont go out of their way to produce a bad or ugly design. Some however fail to hit the spot with their designs, making the end result just not good enough. The italians are masters of design, and their products end up being world leaders in this field. No one can argue that the 12C is a prettier design than a 458.
And there in your own quote is the futility of this discussion. You have defined masters of design by "how pretty" your chosen car looks. What if I don't want a pretty looking car? Is pretty better? Ironically that's exactly why I have never been drawn to any of the V8 Ferraris - they appear feminine to me. I certainly appreciate them but I prefer the aggressive, and IMO more masculine design of a Lambo. Similarly I find McLaren to be less feminine or pretty and therefore I prefer them. But it is a preference, and not a definition of "masters of design".
The fact there are avid buyers of all three "breeds" should tell you that one is not better than the other. It's just a preference. This fanboy stuff reminds me xbox/playstation flame wars. It's just pointless and juvenile.
Edited by WDISMYL on Wednesday 22 February 13:45
t I didn't realise I was responding to that poster. As you were...There are undisguised images of the car on this thread
There are pretty darn accurate renderings
and even with the camo shots you have a silhouette
and with the video you have scale and 3d object in motion
Each one on their own might be a little useless
Combined however, most educated reasonable enthusiasts can make a judgement imo.
That is still no replacement for seeing one up close and personal of course, but the discussion and opinions thus far are more than valid, because that's all it is...opinion and discussion.
I have to say I can see the quality in all Mclaren's designs, but other than the F1, I've not seen anything I 'like'. Plenty of drama and aero-techy progress, nothing of real beauty (to me) or overt aggression....they're neither female enough or male enough, more a transgender look. The centre ground.
Too much mass, width, length at the rear with pronounced cab forward, like Pagani, don't 'like' that stuff for the same reason.... respect it, will watch it drive by, don't 'want' it.....
Nothing wrong with a bit subjective chat though
There are pretty darn accurate renderings
and even with the camo shots you have a silhouette
and with the video you have scale and 3d object in motion
Each one on their own might be a little useless
Combined however, most educated reasonable enthusiasts can make a judgement imo.
That is still no replacement for seeing one up close and personal of course, but the discussion and opinions thus far are more than valid, because that's all it is...opinion and discussion.
I have to say I can see the quality in all Mclaren's designs, but other than the F1, I've not seen anything I 'like'. Plenty of drama and aero-techy progress, nothing of real beauty (to me) or overt aggression....they're neither female enough or male enough, more a transgender look. The centre ground.
Too much mass, width, length at the rear with pronounced cab forward, like Pagani, don't 'like' that stuff for the same reason.... respect it, will watch it drive by, don't 'want' it.....
Nothing wrong with a bit subjective chat though
TP321 said:
No of course they dont go out of their way to produce a bad or ugly design. Some however fail to hit the spot with their designs, making the end result just not good enough. The italians are masters of design, and their products end up being world leaders in this field. No one can argue that the 12C is a prettier design than a 458.
Last pretty Ferrari was the F355. Ever since then they went down hill but at least the 488 is an improvement on the 458 IMHO.Have always preferred their 2nd gen cars hence never getting a 458 despite it being a big step up from my old F430 F1 spider
TP321 said:
WDISMYL said:
Generally speaking car designers don't go out of their way to release products that they think The majority of potential buyers will dislike!
What a totally bizarre thread. People arguing over pictures of a car that has been deliberately disguised.
No of course they dont go out of their way to produce a bad or ugly design. Some however fail to hit the spot with their designs, making the end result just not good enough. The italians are masters of design, and their products end up being world leaders in this field. No one can argue that the 12C is a prettier design than a 458. What a totally bizarre thread. People arguing over pictures of a car that has been deliberately disguised.
Do your Ferrari Bosses know you post all this rubbish?
I can't believe they would approve of such childish nonsense.
TP321 said:
No of course they dont go out of their way to produce a bad or ugly design. Some however fail to hit the spot with their designs, making the end result just not good enough. The italians are masters of design, and their products end up being world leaders in this field. No one can argue that the 12C is a prettier design than a 458.
355 is stunning488 is attractive but not beautiful
Many recent Ferrari's have been GOPING!
FF - Uughhh
TDF - Yuk
612 - ewww
California - bleuuugh
Masters of design my @rse
TP321 said:
No of course they dont go out of their way to produce a bad or ugly design. Some however fail to hit the spot with their designs, making the end result just not good enough. The italians are masters of design, and their products end up being world leaders in this field. No one can argue with the fact that the 12C is a much prettier design than a 458.
Nope your right - no one is arguing with you on that oneanniesdad said:
Notice the reg plate? Listed as a MCLAREN P12 MY15 VP
anniesdad said:
They are really revving up the teasers now, meanwhile its all gone quiet in the Italian quarter.Roll on Geneva !
Craigwww said:
Beefmeister said:
Friends wife spotted this on the M25 this morning
I just cannot get excited about McLaren body design. I so want to like the way they look as I know how good they are but they just don't evoke any emotion. Out of interest what current cars do float your boat, your Gallardo looks great but I was in a showroom earlier today with 4 Huracans and just felt they were underwhelming. They had a 458 in which looked muted in white, and just felt none had the visual drama of a 570s.
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