New Aston Martin DB11

New Aston Martin DB11

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fatboy18

Original Poster:

18,930 posts

210 months

Monday 20th March 2017
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Saw one on Top Gear last night and thought it looked similar to the Jag F type particularly towards the rear end.
Just wondering if this car is sharing the same chassis platform as the Jag?

Please feel free to shoot me down in flames if im wrong?

Yipper

5,964 posts

89 months

Monday 20th March 2017
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Don't know about the chassis, but had a brief look at one recently. They wanted 185k for it. Looked hideous from the back, and didn't sound or drive especially exciting.

RamboLambo

4,843 posts

169 months

Monday 20th March 2017
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Looks like a cut and shut IMHO. Classic AM front and then something weird welded on the back end. Also don't like the front wheel arch treatment. How to spoil a good looking car IMHO
Much rather have a V12V or DBS

subirg

717 posts

275 months

Monday 20th March 2017
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Saw one parked at my local Aston garage. 2 things were immediately apparent:-

1. It's bloody enormous. Far too big.
2. It's bloody hideous. Probably the ugliest Aston in the last 30 years.

Camlet

1,132 posts

148 months

Monday 20th March 2017
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I dislike the way it has a big lump of ugly metal across the top of its engine bay presumably to strengthen the body. Ferrari F12 doesn't need one and neither should the DB11.

fatboy18

Original Poster:

18,930 posts

210 months

Monday 20th March 2017
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I know the DB7 and Jag XJS shared the same platform back in the day and looking at the new Aston I can see F type in there, I could be wrong? But being as most car companies share many parts now, Im wondering if the partnership has been resumed?

MarkM3Evoplus

804 posts

199 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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Everyone seems preoccupied designing cars with clever aero and seem to forget about the looks.

Must admit I still quite like it, but nowhere near as good looking as the DB9.

Edin430

940 posts

203 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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Struggling to think of an uglier car for over £100k....

fatboy18

Original Poster:

18,930 posts

210 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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My post was supposed to be more on the technical side of this car, not weather one liked it or not.

Does anyone have any information on the car platform? They did mention it shares electronics from Mercedes frown

SG167

86 posts

114 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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I didn't like the looks initially, but in the flesh (and in a good colour) I think it looks decent. Not DB9 good looking but definitely not awful. Good to see Aston doing something different too, all models looked to similar before (albeit very good looking)

sparta6

3,689 posts

99 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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a white one was parked up outside our apartment on Sunday. Looks much better in the flesh and the frontal area / bonnet looks pretty cool for a new car. However, time will tell whether it ages gracefully.

David87

6,648 posts

211 months

Saturday 25th March 2017
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In answer to the original question, no, the DB11 and F-Type underpinnings have nothing to do with each other. The DB11 has some Mercedes-Benz electronic gubbins, but is otherwise all AM.

fatboy18

Original Poster:

18,930 posts

210 months

Saturday 25th March 2017
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David87 said:
In answer to the original question, no, the DB11 and F-Type underpinnings have nothing to do with each other. The DB11 has some Mercedes-Benz electronic gubbins, but is otherwise all AM.
Thank you, we got there in the end hehe

MingtheMerciless

414 posts

208 months

Monday 27th March 2017
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I drove one recently. The DB11 actually has nothing much wrong with it (depending on where you are on the looks) and quite a lot they got completely right. The unimportant stuff first – the DB9 had a pong level of graphics pop up screen which was so unusable you just left it down where it merely annoyed you with its poor fitting marring the otherwise wonderful piano lacquer wood finish. The DB11 has something they filched from AMG and I’d imagine it’s the same screen and infotainment they put in the AMG GT. And it’s all the better for it. It doesn’t have that Audi R8 virtual cockpit (many of them are in fact real cockpits) but I don’t care. I played with the toys for a bit, including the very nice stereo, and some cool surround cameras including a view of your wheels as you park, meaning that you could look at them to avoid expensive kerbing…..wait. So you can spend €5k or whatever to avoid kerbing the wheels which you could fix for €60 per wheel. Anyway, what is nice about this car is that it was engineered from the ground up to be great to drive while not losing what it is to be an Aston Martin as opposed to kind of shonked together to drive OK over a 14 year life cycle starting with a parts bin and two sellotaped together Mondeo V6’s with nice leather like the DB9. This car has had money spent on it, and it shows. And as the nice AM works driver who was paxing with me said, getting all the electric stuff from AMG (a 5% shareholder) so they could concentrate on making it an Aston made complete sense and this is such a polished product.

It comes with several modes for the suspension and the ‘zaurst/’box so you can have Mr. Whippy suspension and lunatic fringe gear changes and manic bull having his nads torched ‘zaurst at the same time. Here's a sound clip:

https://protect-eu.mimecast.com/s/9XQLBTa53bOsR



Quite quickly I settled on mid level polite suspension and distressingly rude ‘zaurst and whip your teeth out rifle shot gear changes. This is a car you can just play with. Oh yes did I mention that it is quite fast? Well with 600 bhp it should be. You will never forget that it is a GT, there was more feeling in the congratulations of the England coach on the occasion of England's recent defeat in the Aviva in Dublin than there is in the steering, it does weigh as much as a 458 with about six hefty blokes strapped to the roof and it isn’t small. Driving it with abandon around narrow country roads is something only to be done in an OPC. It is a car you can place accurately and while I didn’t get to burn the $hit out of the brakes, I do feel that it could do half a trackday without going on fire. And it is a nice predictable rwd car. With a V12. And some lovely leather and wood. It is the kind of car to just decide to head to Cannes for the weekend in with your supermodel of choice. And you could I think go a good bit of the way sideways in comfort with unruffled hair (in your armpits anyway) while sipping a latte and in a climate setting which was just so, admiring the ruffles and stitching in the leather (the DB9 has nicer leather by the way, more genuine taken from one cow with an impeccable lineage with no machine involved leather).

Apart from the marmite looks, really I think this is the best car of its type. I mean, it’s no 458, but it will do snarly and loud and hooligan and also smooth and dry martini shaken not stirred. Just one thing – on a motorway cruise, with all the gubbins turned towards wife in car mode, there is to me an unacceptable level of road noise. The rear track would not shame an Aventador (hence the lovely predictable handling and slip at the rear being so well controlled) but the 488 Spider for example is a quieter cruiser from this perspective.

Overall, I loved the hooligan modes and I like the interior and the info stuff is fine. But I can’t get used to the looks. So for me it’s a 6 out of 10 car. If you like the looks, it would be an 8 or 9.



erics

2,659 posts

210 months

Monday 27th March 2017
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Nicely written and a good sense of humour. Thanks for the effort.

MingtheMerciless said:
I drove one recently. The DB11 actually has nothing much wrong with it (depending on where you are on the looks) and quite a lot they got completely right. The unimportant stuff first – the DB9 had a pong level of graphics pop up screen which was so unusable you just left it down where it merely annoyed you with its poor fitting marring the otherwise wonderful piano lacquer wood finish. The DB11 has something they filched from AMG and I’d imagine it’s the same screen and infotainment they put in the AMG GT. And it’s all the better for it. It doesn’t have that Audi R8 virtual cockpit (many of them are in fact real cockpits) but I don’t care. I played with the toys for a bit, including the very nice stereo, and some cool surround cameras including a view of your wheels as you park, meaning that you could look at them to avoid expensive kerbing…..wait. So you can spend €5k or whatever to avoid kerbing the wheels which you could fix for €60 per wheel. Anyway, what is nice about this car is that it was engineered from the ground up to be great to drive while not losing what it is to be an Aston Martin as opposed to kind of shonked together to drive OK over a 14 year life cycle starting with a parts bin and two sellotaped together Mondeo V6’s with nice leather like the DB9. This car has had money spent on it, and it shows. And as the nice AM works driver who was paxing with me said, getting all the electric stuff from AMG (a 5% shareholder) so they could concentrate on making it an Aston made complete sense and this is such a polished product.

It comes with several modes for the suspension and the ‘zaurst/’box so you can have Mr. Whippy suspension and lunatic fringe gear changes and manic bull having his nads torched ‘zaurst at the same time. Here's a sound clip:

https://protect-eu.mimecast.com/s/9XQLBTa53bOsR



Quite quickly I settled on mid level polite suspension and distressingly rude ‘zaurst and whip your teeth out rifle shot gear changes. This is a car you can just play with. Oh yes did I mention that it is quite fast? Well with 600 bhp it should be. You will never forget that it is a GT, there was more feeling in the congratulations of the England coach on the occasion of England's recent defeat in the Aviva in Dublin than there is in the steering, it does weigh as much as a 458 with about six hefty blokes strapped to the roof and it isn’t small. Driving it with abandon around narrow country roads is something only to be done in an OPC. It is a car you can place accurately and while I didn’t get to burn the $hit out of the brakes, I do feel that it could do half a trackday without going on fire. And it is a nice predictable rwd car. With a V12. And some lovely leather and wood. It is the kind of car to just decide to head to Cannes for the weekend in with your supermodel of choice. And you could I think go a good bit of the way sideways in comfort with unruffled hair (in your armpits anyway) while sipping a latte and in a climate setting which was just so, admiring the ruffles and stitching in the leather (the DB9 has nicer leather by the way, more genuine taken from one cow with an impeccable lineage with no machine involved leather).

Apart from the marmite looks, really I think this is the best car of its type. I mean, it’s no 458, but it will do snarly and loud and hooligan and also smooth and dry martini shaken not stirred. Just one thing – on a motorway cruise, with all the gubbins turned towards wife in car mode, there is to me an unacceptable level of road noise. The rear track would not shame an Aventador (hence the lovely predictable handling and slip at the rear being so well controlled) but the 488 Spider for example is a quieter cruiser from this perspective.

Overall, I loved the hooligan modes and I like the interior and the info stuff is fine. But I can’t get used to the looks. So for me it’s a 6 out of 10 car. If you like the looks, it would be an 8 or 9.

MingtheMerciless

414 posts

208 months

Monday 27th March 2017
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erics said:
Nicely written and a good sense of humour. Thanks for the effort.
Thank you

Zippee

13,439 posts

233 months

Thursday 30th March 2017
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MingtheMerciless said:
erics said:
Nicely written and a good sense of humour. Thanks for the effort.
Thank you
I know what you mean about the look and I find the DB11 very colour dependant. I was never a fan of the reddy/orange one they displayed at the various shows last year but I saw a baby blue (think gulf racing) one with polished black roof the other day and it looked amazing.
Time for me to start penny searching down the back of the sofa....