Tavarish P1 rebuild

Tavarish P1 rebuild

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thegreenhell

15,522 posts

220 months

Saturday 21st October 2023
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It's not a flood title, it's a certificate of destruction.

youngsyr

14,742 posts

193 months

Saturday 21st October 2023
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thegreenhell said:
It's not a flood title, it's a certificate of destruction.
I assume that means its never allowed back on the road?

Do you have a source? Seems odd to completely write off a car for flood damage?

Mikebentley

6,157 posts

141 months

Saturday 21st October 2023
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Not really a P1 now though which is a shame. It’s just a Frankenstein creation of bits. SEMA is the right place for it. Shame.

thegreenhell

15,522 posts

220 months

Saturday 21st October 2023
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youngsyr said:
thegreenhell said:
It's not a flood title, it's a certificate of destruction.
I assume that means its never allowed back on the road?

Do you have a source? Seems odd to completely write off a car for flood damage?
I'm sure he mentioned it in one of the early videos when he was just buying it.

Also, someone posted a screengrab of the actual auction listing -

wpa1975 said:
I am struggling to see how it can be rebuilt, all the electrics will be toast plus the hybrid system plus they made 375 cars in total how does he even get parts for it.

But it has a destruction title so will not be allowed on the road.



Edited to add photo as system down earlier

Edited by wpa1975 on Sunday 2nd April 17:13

youngsyr

14,742 posts

193 months

Sunday 22nd October 2023
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Thanks for the info, seems like he massively overpaid for it then at $500k?

It's only worth what it can be broken for and all the valuable parts were wrecked by the flood?

MclaesLaren

124 posts

94 months

Sunday 22nd October 2023
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youngsyr said:
Thanks for the info, seems like he massively overpaid for it then at $500k?

It's only worth what it can be broken for and all the valuable parts were wrecked by the flood?
Well, if the ambition is to get the car in a more powerful version, and the car has better performance I would guess he will get his money back.

My crystalball says wiring from a 720s etc and 800 hp. If he sticks to the standard look, it will be interesting.




SydneyBridge

8,674 posts

159 months

Sunday 22nd October 2023
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Surely it's all about the views, whatever he does with it

Mikebentley

6,157 posts

141 months

Sunday 22nd October 2023
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I think the value is already being realised with content that is paying him well as he goes along. There is also a lot of tie-in support where product and services are supplied free or at considerable discount so that they get exposure to his subscribers. I watch Hoovies Garage, Dennis Collins Coffee Walk, This Guy and Legit Street Cars and every one of them is currently promoting dry ice cleaning processes. There is a lot of cross over.

993AL

1,939 posts

219 months

Sunday 22nd October 2023
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emicen said:
993AL said:
The battery guy said if it was him he's ditch the hybrid system but didn't hear Tavarish saying that that's what he was going to do, he just said that he's got some big decisions to make. Unless I missed something.
You missed episode 10, where he says he’s ripping all the hybrid gubbins out
Ah. thumbup

ecksjay

328 posts

153 months

Sunday 22nd October 2023
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Yeah I am watching but interest is waining with ditching of the hybrid drive. It's no longer a P1 Evo concept. It's a... Modified McLaren. P1 Evo would take what makes it a P1 and develop / evolve it. Ditching the hybrid drive now just means it's a heavily modded custom styled p1 which will have 800-1000bhp or whatever.

He seems like a decent enough chap and I'm sure he'll make money back from YouTube etc but yeah, it's not a P1 Evo anymore, or won't be anyways.

As someone thinking about getting a McLaren next year the background on engine failures is somewhat troubling, albeit, it does definitely seem as though this affects modified cars more than stock ones.

HJG

466 posts

108 months

Sunday 22nd October 2023
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Do not worry

emicen

8,601 posts

219 months

Sunday 22nd October 2023
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ecksjay said:
Yeah I am watching but interest is waining with ditching of the hybrid drive. It's no longer a P1 Evo concept. It's a... Modified McLaren. P1 Evo would take what makes it a P1 and develop / evolve it. Ditching the hybrid drive now just means it's a heavily modded custom styled p1 which will have 800-1000bhp or whatever.

He seems like a decent enough chap and I'm sure he'll make money back from YouTube etc but yeah, it's not a P1 Evo anymore, or won't be anyways.

As someone thinking about getting a McLaren next year the background on engine failures is somewhat troubling, albeit, it does definitely seem as though this affects modified cars more than stock ones.
American tuner mentality doesn’t really align with the engineering mentality derived from F1 and endurance motor racing.

The only thing I’ve seen which would make me pause for thought was the spring wear in the transmission. That being said, how much of it is due to only driving short hop journeys with lots of tooling around between sets of traffic lights scratchchin

PAUL.S.

2,650 posts

247 months

Sunday 22nd October 2023
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Of course it is still a P1, no different to one in which all that gubbins has been disabled.

It was only a gimmick anyway at the time when all the top end manufacturers were tinkering with it. It is now a pita cost wise for the cars that ran it.

You can register pretty much anything in Florida, so no doubt he will get it back on the road, resale is irrelevant to him, it's probably already paid for itself.

Griffith4ever

4,319 posts

36 months

Sunday 22nd October 2023
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SydneyBridge said:
Surely it's all about the views, whatever he does with it
Yep - big Tubers make a bloody fortune that puts the car price in the shade,

MclaesLaren

124 posts

94 months

Sunday 22nd October 2023
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youngsyr said:
I assume that means its never allowed back on the road?

Do you have a source? Seems odd to completely write off a car for flood damage?
As I understood it, car can be reregistred in some states in US. So, it will probably be roadworthy some day.

youngsyr

14,742 posts

193 months

Sunday 22nd October 2023
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SydneyBridge said:
Surely it's all about the views, whatever he does with it
Mikebentley said:
I think the value is already being realised with content that is paying him well as he goes along. There is also a lot of tie-in support where product and services are supplied free or at considerable discount so that they get exposure to his subscribers. I watch Hoovies Garage, Dennis Collins Coffee Walk, This Guy and Legit Street Cars and every one of them is currently promoting dry ice cleaning processes. There is a lot of cross over.
It's not really about the views though, why pay $500k for what is essentially scrap? There are very few reusable parts on it and the entire shell is next to worthless.

It's commonly thought that a Cat D car is worth around 50% to 67% of a clean history vehicle. He's just paid 25% for a Cat A!

emicen

8,601 posts

219 months

Sunday 22nd October 2023
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It would appear the majority of the responses on his (rather salty) YouTube poll are in agreement with this forum.

Risonax

277 posts

17 months

Sunday 22nd October 2023
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PAUL.S. said:
Of course it is still a P1, no different to one in which all that gubbins has been disabled.

It was only a gimmick anyway at the time when all the top end manufacturers were tinkering with it. It is now a pita cost wise for the cars that ran it.

You can register pretty much anything in Florida, so no doubt he will get it back on the road, resale is irrelevant to him, it's probably already paid for itself.
Apparently not

https://www.flsenate.gov/laws/statutes/2011/319.30
https://cartitles.com/florida-certificate-of-destr...

So you also need to make notifications if you transport the vehicle, or risk 5 years in clink.

PAUL.S.

2,650 posts

247 months

Monday 23rd October 2023
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He is not building it as a track car or ornament, simply wait and see......

Muzzer79

10,126 posts

188 months

Monday 23rd October 2023
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Some very salient points here regarding weight saving, time frame and out-dated battery tech here from Rich Rebuilds

(For those unaware, he's one of the guys Tavarish went to regarding the hybrid battery)