Tesla Superchargers on the M1
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It is definitely happening, Superchargers are opening all the time (Bristol the day before yesterday) - have a look here http://www.teslamotors.com/supercharger for further information.
In any case you won't need to charge travelling from London to Leicester and back as its only just over 200 miles and London already has 4 Supercharger stations operational so you would be covered whichever way round you wanted to do the journey.
In any case you won't need to charge travelling from London to Leicester and back as its only just over 200 miles and London already has 4 Supercharger stations operational so you would be covered whichever way round you wanted to do the journey.
Have just been speaking to a Tesla person to arrange my test drive of a Model S in 9 days (in Preston). He couldn't confirm anything specifically until public announcements are made but I got the impression that the numbers of superchargers will be greater than shown on their map - I was telling him that having one in Manchester and another in Leeds wouldn't be very helpful to me in Preston and he suggested that there will be more coming. I have also noted that there seem to be quite a few announcements of superchargers opening coming out by email every few days
So I wonder if there will be more in time around the country than the plans seem to suggest - speculation I know...
Still not sure sure how I will ever justify spending over £60k on one
So I wonder if there will be more in time around the country than the plans seem to suggest - speculation I know...
Still not sure sure how I will ever justify spending over £60k on one
Oop North - for emergency charging take a look at TesLowJuice.com covered in an article here http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/tesla/89007/tesla-own...
If you own your own business the Tesla is commercially a no brainer.
Enjoy your test drive.
If you own your own business the Tesla is commercially a no brainer.
Enjoy your test drive.
rossfitz said:
Yes, my desire is for convenient stops on a motorway route commuting (in my case) from Surrey to Leicester.
Worried that the Ecotricity saga has delayed or changed these plans
I don't think you would have to charge on this commute? The one I test drove had come up from Brighton to Manchester the day before on a single charge.Worried that the Ecotricity saga has delayed or changed these plans
adamfawsitt said:
Oop North - for emergency charging take a look at TesLowJuice.com covered in an article here http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/tesla/89007/tesla-own...
If you own your own business the Tesla is commercially a no brainer.
Enjoy your test drive.
Thanks - I do own my own business, but have not (yet?) been able to come to the conclusion that it's a no-brainer! I am an accountant so have half an eye on the increasing benefit in kind charge from April next year (5% to start and then going up evermore after). And I like the XC90 plug in too (though being able to have seven seats and 4wd in the Tesla help offset the XC90's obvious advantages). The model X might be better for me though I am a bit in the dark on that at the moment and don't like the silly doorsIf you own your own business the Tesla is commercially a no brainer.
Enjoy your test drive.
Hopefully I will know more when I have had the test-drive: if I can get access to supercharger(s) easily then that will change the maths quite a bit, and if I enjoy driving it then that will of course be a factor.
I have had a few looks on the configurator and keep thinking "I could have a Range Rover for that" - which obviously wouldn't go through the company
Some of my motoring is done on narrow lanes - does it feel very wide in that sort of environment?
I have had a few looks on the configurator and keep thinking "I could have a Range Rover for that" - which obviously wouldn't go through the company
Some of my motoring is done on narrow lanes - does it feel very wide in that sort of environment?
From what been built so far the SuperChargers agent going in on the motorways, but some where just off. Reading and Bristol being the first 2 examples. Personal in much happier with that idea, i go out of my way normally just so i don't get ripped off.
I think its partly to do with the way tesla leaee the land. They probably get a good rate saying we will get people to visit your site who otherwise might not have been coming. Increased footfall.
Looking at the red dots due this winter there may be one coming at the end of the M6 M1 amd maybe one in the A1 somewhere. But those dots are so sketchy you don't find out till they install them.
I'be been getting a mail when they open a new one so can see they are doing 1 about every 3 weeks.
I think its partly to do with the way tesla leaee the land. They probably get a good rate saying we will get people to visit your site who otherwise might not have been coming. Increased footfall.
Looking at the red dots due this winter there may be one coming at the end of the M6 M1 amd maybe one in the A1 somewhere. But those dots are so sketchy you don't find out till they install them.
I'be been getting a mail when they open a new one so can see they are doing 1 about every 3 weeks.
Had my test drive this morning and liked. A lot. But not sure if I want to spend that much on a car that doesn't have 7 seats (well you can get them but my daughters are too big for them or will be soon) and cannot tow anything. So we also need to have a 7-seat tow car. The alternative is the new XC90 - quite like them too, even if they are a dramatically different option - and could then get the wife a much smaller car. Back to the Tesla...
The tech was impressive - pre-warming / cooling options, the satnav was great - massive screen google maps with a by the speedo GPS second satnav screen for backup when google maps has no 3g support.
The car I drove had 21 inch wheels so a fair bit of tyre noise (I'd get 19inch) but of course nowt from any engine. Silent in stop start traffic. Looks (to me) fairly classy and understated, not bling. The motorway acceleration was entirely adequate
but I was most interested in the noise at cruising speed - a bit more than I would like (perfection please) but acceptable (unlike BMW F30) and 19 inch version should be better.
The car drove had the standard interior - no leather - but entirely acceptable. The trick is to decide what extras are worth having and what not - the sales guy recommended the tech pack (£3,600) and the twin chargers (£1250) as essential for residuals. I would have winter wheels and tyres (£2,100). Disappointed in the blue colour - very dark (too dark for me) - the white is yuk, don't want red or silver (actually solver prob OK) but the grey is nice.
The tech was impressive - pre-warming / cooling options, the satnav was great - massive screen google maps with a by the speedo GPS second satnav screen for backup when google maps has no 3g support.
The car I drove had 21 inch wheels so a fair bit of tyre noise (I'd get 19inch) but of course nowt from any engine. Silent in stop start traffic. Looks (to me) fairly classy and understated, not bling. The motorway acceleration was entirely adequate
but I was most interested in the noise at cruising speed - a bit more than I would like (perfection please) but acceptable (unlike BMW F30) and 19 inch version should be better.The car drove had the standard interior - no leather - but entirely acceptable. The trick is to decide what extras are worth having and what not - the sales guy recommended the tech pack (£3,600) and the twin chargers (£1250) as essential for residuals. I would have winter wheels and tyres (£2,100). Disappointed in the blue colour - very dark (too dark for me) - the white is yuk, don't want red or silver (actually solver prob OK) but the grey is nice.
oop north said:
Had my test drive this morning and liked. A lot. But not sure if I want to spend that much on a car that doesn't have 7 seats (well you can get them but my daughters are too big for them or will be soon) and cannot tow anything. So we also need to have a 7-seat tow car. The alternative is the new XC90 - quite like them too, even if they are a dramatically different option - and could then get the wife a much smaller car. Back to the Tesla...
The tech was impressive - pre-warming / cooling options, the satnav was great - massive screen google maps with a by the speedo GPS second satnav screen for backup when google maps has no 3g support.
The car I drove had 21 inch wheels so a fair bit of tyre noise (I'd get 19inch) but of course nowt from any engine. Silent in stop start traffic. Looks (to me) fairly classy and understated, not bling. The motorway acceleration was entirely adequate but I was most interested in the noise at cruising speed - a bit more than I would like (perfection please) but acceptable (unlike BMW F30) and 19 inch version should be better.
The car drove had the standard interior - no leather - but entirely acceptable. The trick is to decide what extras are worth having and what not - the sales guy recommended the tech pack (£3,600) and the twin chargers (£1250) as essential for residuals. I would have winter wheels and tyres (£2,100). Disappointed in the blue colour - very dark (too dark for me) - the white is yuk, don't want red or silver (actually solver prob OK) but the grey is nice.
If you don't need to buy straight away you might be best waiting for the model X. Like you I wasn't much impressed with the colour range, decided the best bet is to get el cheapo white and get it wrapped. Most likely a light electric blue. The tech was impressive - pre-warming / cooling options, the satnav was great - massive screen google maps with a by the speedo GPS second satnav screen for backup when google maps has no 3g support.
The car I drove had 21 inch wheels so a fair bit of tyre noise (I'd get 19inch) but of course nowt from any engine. Silent in stop start traffic. Looks (to me) fairly classy and understated, not bling. The motorway acceleration was entirely adequate
but I was most interested in the noise at cruising speed - a bit more than I would like (perfection please) but acceptable (unlike BMW F30) and 19 inch version should be better.The car drove had the standard interior - no leather - but entirely acceptable. The trick is to decide what extras are worth having and what not - the sales guy recommended the tech pack (£3,600) and the twin chargers (£1250) as essential for residuals. I would have winter wheels and tyres (£2,100). Disappointed in the blue colour - very dark (too dark for me) - the white is yuk, don't want red or silver (actually solver prob OK) but the grey is nice.
I've actually gone for an i3 for a first. I think Telsa's are a bit too much to shell out for on technology that's changing so fast. Good choice holding off as they already added AWD and the new sensors. I'm hoping they do a facelift before 2016 and change the nose to remove the fake grill.
Re the road noise, the latest build cars are quieter.
http://www.teslamotors.com/en_GB/blog/dual-motor-m...
Our commitment to continuous improvement extends to other features of Model S, and we have recently made several updates to the car. The following features are either in production or will be delivered with Dual Motor Model S (as indicated).
? Seat comfort improvements and taller headrests for whiplash protection
? Improvements for a quieter cabin
? Wider rear door opening
? Electrically opening, self-closing charge port door on Dual Motor Model S (delivered with Dual Motor Model S)
? Increased visor size and larger vanity mirror
? Parcel shelf and front trunk cargo net now standard
? Air ionizer and carbon filter for cabin air purity
? Updated steering column control module
? Updates to Alcantara interior trim, such as wrapped roof bow and top pad
_______________________________________
Unfortunately green and brown colour options have recently been removed.
Financially the model S makes much more sense as a company car with very low tax rates.
http://www.teslamotors.com/en_GB/blog/dual-motor-m...
Our commitment to continuous improvement extends to other features of Model S, and we have recently made several updates to the car. The following features are either in production or will be delivered with Dual Motor Model S (as indicated).
? Seat comfort improvements and taller headrests for whiplash protection
? Improvements for a quieter cabin
? Wider rear door opening
? Electrically opening, self-closing charge port door on Dual Motor Model S (delivered with Dual Motor Model S)
? Increased visor size and larger vanity mirror
? Parcel shelf and front trunk cargo net now standard
? Air ionizer and carbon filter for cabin air purity
? Updated steering column control module
? Updates to Alcantara interior trim, such as wrapped roof bow and top pad
_______________________________________
Unfortunately green and brown colour options have recently been removed.
Financially the model S makes much more sense as a company car with very low tax rates.
The model x has those stupid doors, though, that will be rather awkward to use, I think. And it's very tall
The changes that were effected a couple of days ago included making 4wd about twice the price - and I aso have the feeling that with all the changes (like a computer) the correct time to get a Tesla is always six months after you actually bought it
The changes that were effected a couple of days ago included making 4wd about twice the price - and I aso have the feeling that with all the changes (like a computer) the correct time to get a Tesla is always six months after you actually bought it
I do wish nobody had invented man maths - then I wouldn't be so tempted to get a Tesla! I have been thinking about it quite a bit over the last 24 hours.
I do wonder if I would like it enough to keep for a long time - the 8-year unlimited mileage warranty* (apart from the 60 which has 125k mile limit - I'd go for the 85 anyway to get the higher range) means that keeping for six years or more becomes foreseeable and that brings the prospect of pulling the annual cost down significantly even assuming no residual value. I kept my last car four years and only got rid due to concerns about the engine (Subaru diesel - a friend had to replace the engine in his at a cost of £4,500 and mine started hesitating and even conking out)
The problems are the lack of 7 seats and no towing ability - so my wife would need to keep her XC90 (or similar) to cover that, though I suppose an S max would do the job. Oh, and my wife cannot contemplate me spending £60k+ on a car. Without the tax and fuel savings I don't think I could either!
The alternative is to get one of the new XC90s for me and get a smaller car to replace my wife's XC90. The increase in size in the XC90 means it wouldn't fit where my wife parks either at home or her work (and she can park her XC90 better than I can:roll eyes
- and we could not afford a new XC90 and a Tesla!
Hmm, lots to think about
I do wonder if I would like it enough to keep for a long time - the 8-year unlimited mileage warranty* (apart from the 60 which has 125k mile limit - I'd go for the 85 anyway to get the higher range) means that keeping for six years or more becomes foreseeable and that brings the prospect of pulling the annual cost down significantly even assuming no residual value. I kept my last car four years and only got rid due to concerns about the engine (Subaru diesel - a friend had to replace the engine in his at a cost of £4,500 and mine started hesitating and even conking out)
The problems are the lack of 7 seats and no towing ability - so my wife would need to keep her XC90 (or similar) to cover that, though I suppose an S max would do the job. Oh, and my wife cannot contemplate me spending £60k+ on a car. Without the tax and fuel savings I don't think I could either!
The alternative is to get one of the new XC90s for me and get a smaller car to replace my wife's XC90. The increase in size in the XC90 means it wouldn't fit where my wife parks either at home or her work (and she can park her XC90 better than I can:roll eyes
- and we could not afford a new XC90 and a Tesla!Hmm, lots to think about
- this covers battery and drivetrain only but the rest of the car (covered by a 4-year warranty) shouldn't provide problems. My brother and I both had big bills from BMW turbo diesels outside warranty
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