Leaf or Zoe

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Butter Face

30,347 posts

161 months

Friday 12th December 2014
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DSLiverpool said:
Butter Face said:
They're making the same mistake I did earlier in this thread thinking they are clearance cars when actually they are normal stock,
Fair enough but why is the metallic extra cost huge then - I mean over £1k more for a metallic car other than a boggo white one
It shouldn't be. If it's any more than the cost of the metallic, they are just not giving the same level of discount. Reason: Unknown!

DSLiverpool

14,764 posts

203 months

Friday 12th December 2014
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Butter Face said:
DSLiverpool said:
Butter Face said:
They're making the same mistake I did earlier in this thread thinking they are clearance cars when actually they are normal stock,
Fair enough but why is the metallic extra cost huge then - I mean over £1k more for a metallic car other than a boggo white one
It shouldn't be. If it's any more than the cost of the metallic, they are just not giving the same level of discount. Reason: Unknown!
I have asked them to check on met - fancy a black one, also asked for a gap quote - will pay £200 for gap. I think this may be the first one they have sold as they seem very excited / unsure about it - I asked that the car was registered to the Renault tracking thing I read about in the forums enabling the r link I think and they are going to check what to do.

Butter Face

30,347 posts

161 months

Friday 12th December 2014
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DSLiverpool said:
Butter Face said:
DSLiverpool said:
Butter Face said:
They're making the same mistake I did earlier in this thread thinking they are clearance cars when actually they are normal stock,
Fair enough but why is the metallic extra cost huge then - I mean over £1k more for a metallic car other than a boggo white one
It shouldn't be. If it's any more than the cost of the metallic, they are just not giving the same level of discount. Reason: Unknown!
I have asked them to check on met - fancy a black one, also asked for a gap quote - will pay £200 for gap. I think this may be the first one they have sold as they seem very excited / unsure about it - I asked that the car was registered to the Renault tracking thing I read about in the forums enabling the r link I think and they are going to check what to do.
All of the Active services (R-Link) are connected as standard on the ZOE (well they have to activated) but the cost is included in the battery hire charge.

Should be black ones available to the dealer.

dave_s13

13,814 posts

270 months

Friday 12th December 2014
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Black cars are a pain the arse. If you haven't had one before they are really difficult to keep clean.

DSLiverpool

14,764 posts

203 months

Friday 12th December 2014
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dave_s13 said:
Black cars are a pain the arse. If you haven't had one before they are really difficult to keep clean.
Current black car is my 7th - the valet chap sorts it out my one perk for being a company director

smn159

12,717 posts

218 months

Friday 12th December 2014
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Just back from a test drive and chat with my local dealer. They've offered £62.12 battery plus about £115 car so around £178 but that includes a £500 deposit plus £250 in set up charges - all for 10k miles pa.

They're going to see if they can better that and email me later, but by way of comparison I guess that I'm looking at IN51GHTs Sheffield deal of £154 / month all in for 10k battery / 7500 car miles and DS's 79.46 car plus £60 battery for 12k miles.

Were these both with no deposit?

Will give each dealer a call if my local one can't get close

IN51GHT

8,782 posts

211 months

Friday 12th December 2014
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smn159 said:
Just back from a test drive and chat with my local dealer. They've offered £62.12 battery plus about £115 car so around £178 but that includes a £500 deposit plus £250 in set up charges - all for 10k miles pa.

They're going to see if they can better that and email me later, but by way of comparison I guess that I'm looking at IN51GHTs Sheffield deal of £154 / month all in for 10k battery / 7500 car miles and DS's 79.46 car plus £60 battery for 12k miles.

Were these both with no deposit?

Will give each dealer a call if my local one can't get close
Mine was £250 deposit as a distance sale.

stargazer30

1,600 posts

167 months

Friday 12th December 2014
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Well I tried another Renault dealer local to me today. Deal came back exactly the same as my first local dealer, almost to the penny. I honestly don't know how you guys are getting the finance that cheap with low deposits. Looks like I'm in for the £195 all in over 3 years, 10K miles with metalic paint. Best I can get.

PS the finance is not as bad as I'd thought. I forgot about the £105 plate xfer the dealer paid so in effect I have put no deposit down. Also the finance value was higher at almost 10K so works out about 6% rate. :-)

Edited by stargazer30 on Friday 12th December 12:41

DSLiverpool

14,764 posts

203 months

Friday 12th December 2014
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My deal is 6000 pa, the sales guy messed up - car 6000, battery 7500 and the deal as already stated.
Lookers wanted £399 for Gap - I couldn't accept that so will sort it after I have a number plate.

Signing finance sat,

NOTE 1 the R link can take 2 or 3 days to go live so the sales guy is enabling it as soon as it arrives with them (if this is wrong don't yell at me its just what I am told)

NOTE 2 a stumbling block was that they were reluctant to deliver the car until I had the charge point installed as they had issues with other sales but as I have one its no issue.

smn159

12,717 posts

218 months

Friday 12th December 2014
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IN51GHT said:
Mine was £250 deposit as a distance sale.
You still going up to sheffield to collect in person? I'm tempted to do the same if I end up buying from Sheffield Renault as my daughter is at uni there smile

gianlu

215 posts

180 months

Friday 12th December 2014
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stargazer30 said:
Can the folks on here check my PCP deal. I need to sign it next week but its looking more expensive now than what the rest of you are getting. I suspect the interest rate is too high. I have not been given the exact breakdown but what I do know;

Finance value - £9278.78 over 3 years @ £195 per month. Balloon £6700. Mileage 10,000 miles PA.

Now when I do the maths, the battery rental at that mileage works out as £66.67 per month (8p per mile), which leaves £128.33 paying the finance.

That seems high. When I work out 36 x £128.33, take that away from the amount I am borrowing and compare to the balloon (whats left to pay) that's £2062.91 interest over the 3 years or a rate of 8.5%!

Am I doing something wrong here or am I getting my pants pulled down.

When I re-work it out at a more realistic 5% interest, it works out more like £105 per month so overall with battery £170ish, which is closer to the deals you lot are getting. Hmmmmmmmmmm
From what I understood, the shorter the term, the lower the rate. This because the depreciation on the 24 months (shortest term) is done on the full value of the car, while as of now you buy a car with both government grant and dealer contribution. An extra 24 months was adding £20 ish per month.

Metallic should be an extra £595, and as far as Lookers is concerned (we looked at the list together) there were only a handful of metallic and no more solid colours (I got the last one).

I don't think they gave me any extra discount, their first offer on 10500 miles was 170ish per month, don't know anymore the exact figure as I chopped in another car which screwed all the calculations.

I'm not sure if there is enough time left for the registration if someone has not put the order in yet? But I'm sure someone will be along soon to confirm otherwise...

IN51GHT

8,782 posts

211 months

Friday 12th December 2014
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smn159 said:
You still going up to sheffield to collect in person? I'm tempted to do the same if I end up buying from Sheffield Renault as my daughter is at uni there smile
Thinking seriously about it, only worry is some of the Ecotricity network is down on my route home.

hab1966

1,097 posts

213 months

Friday 12th December 2014
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DSLiverpool said:
Lookers wanted £399 for Gap - I couldn't accept that so will sort it after I have a number plate.
On a new car purchase, does your car insurance not provide a new car (same spec) within the first 12 months if your car is deemed to cost more than x% to repair or its stolen and not recovered? Doesn't this make GAP insurance in year 1 a waste? Or am I missing something?

cwis

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1,159 posts

180 months

Friday 12th December 2014
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I have to say, as the starter of this thread, I'm current-ly (geddit!) consumed with jealousy.

Flat out here and no time to get out there and even talk to a dealer. Never mind - perhaps there will still be some nice deals out there in the new year?

£200 quid a month is my man maths allowable figure...


DSLiverpool

14,764 posts

203 months

Friday 12th December 2014
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cwis said:
I have to say, as the starter of this thread, I'm current-ly (geddit!) consumed with jealousy.

Flat out here and no time to get out there and even talk to a dealer. Never mind - perhaps there will still be some nice deals out there in the new year?

£200 quid a month is my man maths allowable figure...
Took me 2 short calls to Lookers and 2 emails - I need to sign the finance but if you cant spare 30 mins your work life balance needs help ;-)

DSLiverpool

14,764 posts

203 months

Friday 12th December 2014
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This video demonstrates how your life may change doing longish trips in a EV - basically you cant make appointments because another EV may be charging when you get to your mid way charge - start from about 3 mins if he bores you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJtYeOmqiKw

Butter Face

30,347 posts

161 months

Friday 12th December 2014
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gianlu said:
stargazer30 said:
Can the folks on here check my PCP deal. I need to sign it next week but its looking more expensive now than what the rest of you are getting. I suspect the interest rate is too high. I have not been given the exact breakdown but what I do know;

Finance value - £9278.78 over 3 years @ £195 per month. Balloon £6700. Mileage 10,000 miles PA.

Now when I do the maths, the battery rental at that mileage works out as £66.67 per month (8p per mile), which leaves £128.33 paying the finance.

That seems high. When I work out 36 x £128.33, take that away from the amount I am borrowing and compare to the balloon (whats left to pay) that's £2062.91 interest over the 3 years or a rate of 8.5%!

Am I doing something wrong here or am I getting my pants pulled down.

When I re-work it out at a more realistic 5% interest, it works out more like £105 per month so overall with battery £170ish, which is closer to the deals you lot are getting. Hmmmmmmmmmm
From what I understood, the shorter the term, the lower the rate. This because the depreciation on the 24 months (shortest term) is done on the full value of the car, while as of now you buy a car with both government grant and dealer contribution. An extra 24 months was adding £20 ish per month.

Metallic should be an extra £595, and as far as Lookers is concerned (we looked at the list together) there were only a handful of metallic and no more solid colours (I got the last one).

I don't think they gave me any extra discount, their first offer on 10500 miles was 170ish per month, don't know anymore the exact figure as I chopped in another car which screwed all the calculations.

I'm not sure if there is enough time left for the registration if someone has not put the order in yet? But I'm sure someone will be along soon to confirm otherwise...
The flat rate stays the same no matter the term but the APR changes obviously. It's cheaper over 24 months etc because the car will depreciate less in relation the the (hugely reduced) price they're selling them for.

There's about 20 or so in white left at dealers, only 60-70 cars left in metallic colours coming into the country but another 50 or so cars in dealer stocks.

stargazer30

1,600 posts

167 months

Friday 12th December 2014
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DSLiverpool said:
This video demonstrates how your life may change doing longish trips in a EV - basically you cant make appointments because another EV may be charging when you get to your mid way charge - start from about 3 mins if he bores you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJtYeOmqiKw
OMG if thats what typical Zoe owners look like I want out lol!!!!

cwis

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1,159 posts

180 months

Friday 12th December 2014
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DSLiverpool said:
Took me 2 short calls to Lookers and 2 emails - I need to sign the finance but if you cant spare 30 mins your work life balance needs help ;-)
The company I work for reaches peak trade around about now. All hands on deck, man the pumps etc. No holidays, no dentists appointments etc from Mid November until the new year.

My first call was around half five this morning, and the last one last night was at about 22:00.

Swings and roundabouts - We do flexi-time in the summer...

I can't really phone a dealer if I can't spare the time to turn up and look at the shiny metal.

It doesn't help that in my "second job" I've an order to make a pair of wings, a bonnet, a tailgate and a pair of doors before xmas too. Never rains but it pours!

Richyboy

3,740 posts

218 months

Friday 12th December 2014
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So its roughly £190 a month for three years, around £7000 total then you give the car back. Wouldn't it make more sense to buy it outright? My local renault dealer is selling them with a few hundred miles for £11,000 (unsure if a lease is required here).