Leaf or Zoe

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dave_s13

13,814 posts

269 months

Saturday 17th January 2015
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VonSenger said:
I just called Sheffield, got quoted 185 185 at 7500 miles. Is that the cheapest at the moment? If so ì think I'll pass.
Not a million miles off mine at 150 155 @7500

Sone

There's a £99 finance arrangement fee they don't tell you about too.

dave_s13

13,814 posts

269 months

Saturday 17th January 2015
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VonSenger said:
I just called Sheffield, got quoted 185 185 at 7500 miles. Is that the cheapest at the moment? If so ì think I'll pass.
Not a million miles off mine at 150 155 @7500

Some of us wangled a free three pin charger too, worth several hundred.

There's a £99 finance arrangement fee they don't tell you about too.

DSLiverpool

14,743 posts

202 months

Saturday 17th January 2015
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VonSenger said:
I just called Sheffield, got quoted 185 185 at 7500 miles. Is that the cheapest at the moment? If so ì think I'll pass.
You have missed the clearance deals but if your patient more will come along, I ended up £139, £139 7500 miles metallic and armrest due to delay and no finance doc charge.

VonSenger

2,465 posts

189 months

Saturday 17th January 2015
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dave_s13 said:
Not a million miles off mine at 150 155 @7500

Some of us wangled a free three pin charger too, worth several hundred.

There's a £99 finance arrangement fee they don't tell you about too.
Was this at Sheffield?

dave_s13

13,814 posts

269 months

Saturday 17th January 2015
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VonSenger said:
Was this at Sheffield?
Yeah.

Maybe just tell them you'll do deal when they can get nearer the sub 150 mark and leave it with them.

VonSenger

2,465 posts

189 months

Saturday 17th January 2015
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dave_s13 said:
Yeah.

Maybe just tell them you'll do deal when they can get nearer the sub 150 mark and leave it with them.
That's pretty much how I left it. The chap I spoke to was mick, nice enough bloke but they're definitely chancing their arm especially given the long term prospect of cheaper petrol/diesel. For £200pm I can get the blue motion vw cc I wanted. £150 does sway me towards the zoe though.

IN51GHT

8,779 posts

210 months

Thursday 22nd January 2015
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VonSenger said:
dave_s13 said:
Yeah.

Maybe just tell them you'll do deal when they can get nearer the sub 150 mark and leave it with them.
That's pretty much how I left it. The chap I spoke to was mick, nice enough bloke but they're definitely chancing their arm especially given the long term prospect of cheaper petrol/diesel. For £200pm I can get the blue motion vw cc I wanted. £150 does sway me towards the zoe though.
Speak to Daniel at Evans Halshaw Sheffield, you may be able to get a good deal on my old car YS54 NPY, it had a battery failure at 150 miles, battery was replaced as was car, wish I'd kept that one as it's had it major issue.

Tyler Durden

81 posts

200 months

Friday 29th May 2015
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This thread was going nicely and then suddenly stopped. What are the latest and greatest deals to be had on the Zoe? How are the new owners finding them?

smn159

12,654 posts

217 months

Friday 29th May 2015
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Love my Zoe. Only issue is that I'm using it more than I expected to and am likely to exceed the 10k pa mileage limit

stargazer30

1,592 posts

166 months

Friday 29th May 2015
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Tyler Durden said:
This thread was going nicely and then suddenly stopped. What are the latest and greatest deals to be had on the Zoe? How are the new owners finding them?
SpeakEV has a thread going and there are new Zoe deals coming in almost as good as xmas last year.
I'm 5000 miles in and still smiling. No majors issues, a few minor niggles like the front badge peeling/needing replacing and r-link crashing and needing a hard reset.

Like the other poster just said I'm also doing more miles than I should had to put my battery agreement up to 12.5K PA.

Cracking car for the money though.

DSLiverpool

14,743 posts

202 months

Friday 29th May 2015
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If you can get a leaf for £1800 / £2k a year get that the Leaf is a more mature car and feels more substantial overall plus it has heated seats and is a bit bigger.

cwis

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1,158 posts

179 months

Friday 29th May 2015
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Tyler Durden said:
This thread was going nicely and then suddenly stopped. What are the latest and greatest deals to be had on the Zoe? How are the new owners finding them?
I started the thread.

In the end I gave up trying to get a reasonable deal on a Zoe. I started looking at petrol versus repayment prices to try and get as comfy as I could, for as little as possible a month, all in.

I scrapped my Rav4 and bought a 12 year old petrol auto Honda CRV Executive. It was £1700, has leather, heated seats, cruise, etc etc etc... No one likes auto petrol cars second hand. I do - I bought a Daimler for a song and rolled about in that for a while a couple of years ago.

On the urban cycle, it does about 20mpg. On the motorway it does around 35mpg. I did 6000 miles last year, so worst case scenario is 300 gallons of fuel at around £1800 a year. Best case scenario is 170 gallons of fuel or £1000 a year - the real number is somewhere in between - I tend to fill it up every 2 - 3 weeks at about 60 quid a pop.

So I spent less than the deposit on a Leaf or Zoe, and I'm spending less a month that the lease/payment on an EV to roll about in a comfy dinosaur burner.

I'll have another look at the EV market when the CRV needs replacing or when I get bored of it - I believe they are the future and really want to try one, but not until the price is right.

vladcjelli

2,968 posts

158 months

Friday 29th May 2015
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We're a week into Leaf ownership, and so far think it's a great car.

Initially disappointed with the turn of pace, especially as so many owners reckoned it to be a little pocket rocket. Didn't realise it had Eco selected when we picked it up. Totally different ball game when it's switched off!

Mrs Cjelli had a little wobble in it this morning, couldn't get it back into D after pressing P at the lights. Assumed the worst, thought it was broken so rebooted it (thank you Microsoft) but it turned out she was forgetting to press the brake when selecting Drive.

Shame Carwings appears to be almost entirely useless, but not the end of the world.

Apart from that it's a really nice place to be and visiting petrol stations is reserved exclusively for late night booze stops.

FiF

44,078 posts

251 months

Sunday 28th June 2015
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Been looking at YouTube reviews of the Zoe and Leaf. One of them gives rise to a question.

It's one of the top results when you search YouTube for the Zoe and is by some numpty called redferret iirc.

Anyway this numpty does a test involving a 50mile each way trip in winter at 2C. Sets off without a full charge from what I can see, doesn't put it on charge while he's parked up at the other end and then gets into all sorts of charging problems.

Anyway the question is that he complains about the vehicle steaming up. It does look quite bad. Am I right in thinking he hasn't got any heating / climate control on? Or?

dave_s13

13,814 posts

269 months

Sunday 28th June 2015
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If you're desperate for range then turning off the heating will maybe give a couple of extra miles.

The heating isn't amazing but it doesn't steam up at all,Nthe cooling is bloody freezing as it happens. Not a problem in real life.

DSLiverpool

14,743 posts

202 months

Sunday 28th June 2015
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The leaf is the overall better engineered car, it's heat pump heater uses little power plus it has heated seats that uses no power as it comes from the vehicle battery not the traction battery

appletonn

699 posts

260 months

Monday 29th June 2015
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DSLiverpool said:
The leaf is the overall better engineered car, it's heat pump heater uses little power plus it has heated seats that uses no power as it comes from the vehicle battery not the traction battery
The Zoe also has a heat pump heater & works well in my wife's Zoe, as it does in my new Acenta.

Zoe is more of a fun drive imo, whereas Leaf is more 'grown-up' & refined on a longer journey, although have to say I wasn't that impressed with the Leaf seats on my first long trip (200 mile round trip)

gangzoom

6,298 posts

215 months

Tuesday 30th June 2015
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Thee will be a 30 kWh Leaf coming in Sep this year. So 100 miles of 'real world' range rather than the current 70-80 miles.

More excitingly Nissan appears to hint they have a prototype Leaf running at 300 miles+ of range....and hinted this is a real production possibility!! Next 5-10 years are going go see some amazing changes in battery technology, we know a lot of ad advances are been made at the bench, it's now a case of getting the stuff to market....A 200-300 mile Leaf/Golf/Focus etc that can recharge in 20-30 minutes will surely see the end of ICE cars for the majority of people..Cannot wait biggrin

https://cleantechnica.com/2015/06/27/long-range-ni...

amstrange1

600 posts

176 months

Tuesday 30th June 2015
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DSLiverpool said:
it has heated seats that uses no power as it comes from the vehicle battery not the traction battery
Where do you think the 12V battery gets its energy from?

BigBen

11,641 posts

230 months

Tuesday 30th June 2015
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amstrange1 said:
DSLiverpool said:
it has heated seats that uses no power as it comes from the vehicle battery not the traction battery
Where do you think the 12V battery gets its energy from?
I was going to ask the same however I guess it means that the range won't be reduced by using the vehicle battery which can be recharged at the same time as the traction battery.