Leaf or Zoe

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Butter Face

30,346 posts

161 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2014
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I'm just waiting on confirmation on the deals I can do smile

IN51GHT

8,782 posts

211 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2014
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I still think I'll go for it however, she'll come round.

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2014
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IN51GHT said:
I still think I'll go for it however, she'll come round.
is the deal likely to be any sweeter for 2 cars rather than 1?

DSLiverpool

14,764 posts

203 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2014
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It looks like for 6k pa over 2 years it will cost £3800 - I think that's as good as it will get

I am thinking to buy one at £10,200 plus battery and sell it after 2 years might be the cheapest option - bit of a gamble ?

Edited by DSLiverpool on Tuesday 2nd December 11:05

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2014
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DSLiverpool said:
It looks like for 6k pa over 2 years it will cost £3800 - I think that's as good as it will get

I am thinking to buy one at £10,200 plus battery and sell it after 2 years might be the cheapest option - bit of a gamble ?

Edited by DSLiverpool on Tuesday 2nd December 11:05
and herein lies the problem with the electric car - the battery cost, prices with the battery purchase are shown as

i Expression £17,793.00 incl. VAT

i Dynamique ZEN £19,393.00 incl. VAT

i Dynamique INTENS £19,393.00 incl. VAT versus £11,945 + battery rental

What is the second hand value of these cars where either the battery is owned (what happens if it goes wrong for second+ owner) and/or how will selling on a car that requires a monthly payment £50 a month for battery rental work out?

Is a three old Intens with battery going to sell for £9,696.50 (50% depreciation)

Is someone buying a three old intens at £5,972.50 (50% depreciation) looking to be tied into a monthly battery rental contract for the whole time they own the car?

SydneyBridge

8,643 posts

159 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2014
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If you rent the battery, does it automatically get replaced if there is a problem? Surely the rest of the car will last longer than the battery and the performance of the battery will decrease over time.

I though the idea of renting was that it would get replaced as battery technology improves over the life of the car.

The Zoe is still a lot cheaper than anything equivalent (and you get the £5k government allowance don't you?)

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2014
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SydneyBridge said:
If you rent the battery, does it automatically get replaced if there is a problem? Surely the rest of the car will last longer than the battery and the performance of the battery will decrease over time.

I though the idea of renting was that it would get replaced as battery technology improves over the life of the car.

The Zoe is still a lot cheaper than anything equivalent (and you get the £5k government allowance don't you?)
Yes, that is correct. And when it is considered in with the overall cost of a new one, it is perhaps easier to stomach than when it comes to be sold on to the 2nd and subsequent owners.

On a 12 month contract up to 7,500 miles per year, it is £70 + month (not sure if that is subject to VAT or not?)

So, someone buying one in a few ears for something around £6k then has £840 a year to pay to renault for the battery. Even selling one to a dealer, the battery rental needs to be transferred too...

tony wright

1,004 posts

251 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2014
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New battery contract is £50 a month up to 7.5k

Whoops sorry I missed the 12 month bit.

Edited by tony wright on Tuesday 2nd December 13:00

tony wright

1,004 posts

251 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2014
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Butter Face said:
I'm just waiting on confirmation on the deals I can do smile
Will you post the info or PM people that requested numbers? Also, if there are delivery costs as well as other incentives i.e. free servicing, breakdown road side assit etc could they also be mentioned? As already mentioned, any indication of a better deal due to a bulk purchase would also be greatbiggrin

Bet you wish you hadn't bothered now;) Although if things go to plan I would imagine a healthy Xmas commission is on the horizonlaugh

Tophatron

425 posts

222 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2014
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DSLiverpool said:
It looks like for 6k pa over 2 years it will cost £3800 - I think that's as good as it will get

I am thinking to buy one at £10,200 plus battery and sell it after 2 years might be the cheapest option - bit of a gamble ?

Edited by DSLiverpool on Tuesday 2nd December 11:05
Short answer - yes. Now Renault have introduced a battery purchase option, I think trying to sell one with a battery lease will be even more difficult in the years to come.

Take your example costs:

PCP over 2 years - Total cost £3800

Outright purchase - The battery lease will still cost you £1200 so the car will have to be worth more than £7600 at the end of the 2 years for the outright purchase to make sense. I'd say that's very unlikely. 1 year old Zoes with 1-2k miles can be had for less than £9k from Renault garages already.

Seems like a big gamble for no real benefit I can see...

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2014
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I haven't (I am pretty sure) seen a used one for sale with battery ownership yet

Tophatron

425 posts

222 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2014
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JPJPJP said:
I haven't (I am pretty sure) seen a used one for sale with battery ownership yet
Yeah, it's only just been announced. They'll start to filter through at some point in the next few months I'd guess.

Butter Face

30,346 posts

161 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2014
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Unfortunately guys no word from the powers that be about any clearance cars so I haven't done any quotes today.

I'll uodate as I can. Cheers

MarshPhantom

9,658 posts

138 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2014
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Zoe isn't a bad looking car, unlike the Leaf.

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2014
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Butter Face said:
Unfortunately guys no word from the powers that be about any clearance cars so I haven't done any quotes today.

I'll uodate as I can. Cheers
give them a bit of a shake - there are punters here waving debit cards

tony wright

1,004 posts

251 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2014
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JPJPJP said:
give them a bit of a shake - there are punters here waving debit cards
Bit more than a shake is neededbiggrin

IN51GHT

8,782 posts

211 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2014
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Yep, SWMBO is wavering, still think it's on the cards.

IN51GHT

8,782 posts

211 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2014
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tony wright said:
JPJPJP said:
give them a bit of a shake - there are punters here waving debit cards
Bit more than a shake is neededbiggrin
We're all waiting here.

P.S. Got any Twizy's you need to shift?

tony wright

1,004 posts

251 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2014
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My dilemma has just worsened. I now have a code for an Nissan employees deal so it's back up in the air, Zoe, Leaf arghh.

Two deals are as follows:

3yr PCP on a white Zoe Inten covering 7.5k per annum = £99 deposit followed by £183 a month (this include battery rental for 7.5k) total cost = £6,786. Not bothered about GMFV as I will hand car back after term.

2yr PCP (specific for Nissan employees only) White Leaf Tekna (non Flex) covering 6k per annum = £500 deposit followed by £189 a month, total cost= £5,036.

I fancy the Leaf but the Missus loves the Zoe, although neither of us have driven it yet (24hr test drive tomorrow). Car will be our main daily transport but we will have a second ICE for our longer journeys. Just have to convince her the Leaf will be the better buy, leather etc but don't reslish the challenge.

smn159

12,715 posts

218 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2014
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tony wright said:
My dilemma has just worsened. I now have a code for an Nissan employees deal so it's back up in the air, Zoe, Leaf arghh.

Two deals are as follows:

3yr PCP on a white Zoe Inten covering 7.5k per annum = £99 deposit followed by £183 a month (this include battery rental for 7.5k) total cost = £6,786. Not bothered about GMFV as I will hand car back after term.

2yr PCP (specific for Nissan employees only) White Leaf Tekna (non Flex) covering 6k per annum = £500 deposit followed by £189 a month, total cost= £5,036.

I fancy the Leaf but the Missus loves the Zoe, although neither of us have driven it yet (24hr test drive tomorrow). Car will be our main daily transport but we will have a second ICE for our longer journeys. Just have to convince her the Leaf will be the better buy, leather etc but don't reslish the challenge.
If she's anything like my Mrs she will declare the Zoe 'cute' and you will have no chance, I'm afraid

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