Zoe Owners Daring Tales/Boring Discussion Thread.......
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dave_s13 said:
Did a full reset of the range computer today and it jumped up from 79m to 126miles!
It will obviously settle back to 80 ish with time (I assume) but it's mildly interesting nonetheless.
To reset.
100% charge
Open door
Press brake + accelerator
Reset trip computer.
Is that a different type of reset to the one via the menu system then?It will obviously settle back to 80 ish with time (I assume) but it's mildly interesting nonetheless.
To reset.
100% charge
Open door
Press brake + accelerator
Reset trip computer.
Hi guys, I'm after some advice please. My dad currently has a 2011 Vauxhall Insignia for work and he is open to the idea of trading it in for a Zoe if the monthly cost to do so represents a saving.
For simplicity I would say his trade in will be £5k. Renault are offering an Intens (£15043 new I believe) on HP over 4 years at 0% and with a £1500 deposit contribution. That would leave £8543 to be financed over 48 months which is £178 per month. This deal is for buying the battery outright.
He currently spends £190 per month on the Insignia taking into account tax over the year and fuel.
On top of the £178 will be the costs for charging the car at home. He would be charging it after 6pm on an overnight charge and he covers on average no more than 150 miles per week I would say. What would this cost per week in terms of charging do you think?
Overall, I'm not convinced he'll see much of a saving but then I suppose he is getting a brand new car etc. Is the above deal the best he could hope for at present?
All thoughts and advice much appreciated.
Martin
For simplicity I would say his trade in will be £5k. Renault are offering an Intens (£15043 new I believe) on HP over 4 years at 0% and with a £1500 deposit contribution. That would leave £8543 to be financed over 48 months which is £178 per month. This deal is for buying the battery outright.
He currently spends £190 per month on the Insignia taking into account tax over the year and fuel.
On top of the £178 will be the costs for charging the car at home. He would be charging it after 6pm on an overnight charge and he covers on average no more than 150 miles per week I would say. What would this cost per week in terms of charging do you think?
Overall, I'm not convinced he'll see much of a saving but then I suppose he is getting a brand new car etc. Is the above deal the best he could hope for at present?
All thoughts and advice much appreciated.
Martin
smn159 said:
dave_s13 said:
Did a full reset of the range computer today and it jumped up from 79m to 126miles!
It will obviously settle back to 80 ish with time (I assume) but it's mildly interesting nonetheless.
To reset.
100% charge
Open door
Press brake + accelerator
Reset trip computer.
Is that a different type of reset to the one via the menu system then?It will obviously settle back to 80 ish with time (I assume) but it's mildly interesting nonetheless.
To reset.
100% charge
Open door
Press brake + accelerator
Reset trip computer.
Done ten miles since and it's still saying 105 left.
Martin_M said:
Hi guys, I'm after some advice please. My dad currently has a 2011 Vauxhall Insignia for work and he is open to the idea of trading it in for a Zoe if the monthly cost to do so represents a saving.
For simplicity I would say his trade in will be £5k. Renault are offering an Intens (£15043 new I believe) on HP over 4 years at 0% and with a £1500 deposit contribution. That would leave £8543 to be financed over 48 months which is £178 per month. This deal is for buying the battery outright.
He currently spends £190 per month on the Insignia taking into account tax over the year and fuel.
On top of the £178 will be the costs for charging the car at home. He would be charging it after 6pm on an overnight charge and he covers on average no more than 150 miles per week I would say. What would this cost per week in terms of charging do you think?
Overall, I'm not convinced he'll see much of a saving but then I suppose he is getting a brand new car etc. Is the above deal the best he could hope for at present?
All thoughts and advice much appreciated.
Martin
I worked out (roughly) that ours costs about £2.95 to charge from zero and that gets about 75 miles.. Real use mileage not running it to zero. This appears to be increasing with the warm weather though. For simplicity I would say his trade in will be £5k. Renault are offering an Intens (£15043 new I believe) on HP over 4 years at 0% and with a £1500 deposit contribution. That would leave £8543 to be financed over 48 months which is £178 per month. This deal is for buying the battery outright.
He currently spends £190 per month on the Insignia taking into account tax over the year and fuel.
On top of the £178 will be the costs for charging the car at home. He would be charging it after 6pm on an overnight charge and he covers on average no more than 150 miles per week I would say. What would this cost per week in terms of charging do you think?
Overall, I'm not convinced he'll see much of a saving but then I suppose he is getting a brand new car etc. Is the above deal the best he could hope for at present?
All thoughts and advice much appreciated.
Martin
I use the analogy of it being like a normal, average petrol car costing about £15-20 to brim with unleaded.
If he's on economy 7 then it's better still. I think my unit rate is about 14p ish.
The 7kw charge takes roughly 3hrs so
3x7x unit rate = cost to charge........ I think!
Martin_M said:
Overall, I'm not convinced he'll see much of a saving but then I suppose he is getting a brand new car etc. Is the above deal the best he could hope for at present?
Depreciation is always the biggest cost of new car ownership, that hasn't changed with EVs (not counting the stupidly cheap Leafs deals). I worked out that our old Honda Civic which we kept for 7 years and did 90k miles cost about £230/month to run including ALL costs. That's not much more than what my Leaf is costing me, even with relative good deal I got on the Leaf.If your after bargin basement motoring, nothing can beat running a old (reliable) car into the ground. I suspect the Civic probably had another 50k in it before you would have to consider replacing suspension bits...But every time I started and stopped that clattering diseale engine it made me sign....We put up with it for 90k because we had choice but use it to cover the daily 100 mile commute to work. I never once drove it any future than I had too....Where as in the Leaf, even though it's slower than the Civic on paper, I've some how covered 200 miles + in one week of ownership, deispte my commute now being only 10 miles
Martin_M said:
Hi guys, I'm after some advice please. My dad currently has a 2011 Vauxhall Insignia for work and he is open to the idea of trading it in for a Zoe if the monthly cost to do so represents a saving.
For simplicity I would say his trade in will be £5k. Renault are offering an Intens (£15043 new I believe) on HP over 4 years at 0% and with a £1500 deposit contribution. That would leave £8543 to be financed over 48 months which is £178 per month. This deal is for buying the battery outright.
He currently spends £190 per month on the Insignia taking into account tax over the year and fuel.
On top of the £178 will be the costs for charging the car at home. He would be charging it after 6pm on an overnight charge and he covers on average no more than 150 miles per week I would say. What would this cost per week in terms of charging do you think?
Overall, I'm not convinced he'll see much of a saving but then I suppose he is getting a brand new car etc. Is the above deal the best he could hope for at present?
All thoughts and advice much appreciated.
Martin
I got my Zoe in early Jan and have covered around 250 miles per week in it so far. Looking at my monthly bills, Feb and March are around £25 more per month than they were last year, so on the face of it it will cost your Dad c£15 per month for electricity.For simplicity I would say his trade in will be £5k. Renault are offering an Intens (£15043 new I believe) on HP over 4 years at 0% and with a £1500 deposit contribution. That would leave £8543 to be financed over 48 months which is £178 per month. This deal is for buying the battery outright.
He currently spends £190 per month on the Insignia taking into account tax over the year and fuel.
On top of the £178 will be the costs for charging the car at home. He would be charging it after 6pm on an overnight charge and he covers on average no more than 150 miles per week I would say. What would this cost per week in terms of charging do you think?
Overall, I'm not convinced he'll see much of a saving but then I suppose he is getting a brand new car etc. Is the above deal the best he could hope for at present?
All thoughts and advice much appreciated.
Martin
Don't know what the deals are like to buy at the moment, but mine is on a two year lease at £174 / month with (I think) £250 deposit and £99 admin fee - car and battery rental.
HTH
Martin_M said:
Hi guys, I'm after some advice please. My dad currently has a 2011 Vauxhall Insignia for work and he is open to the idea of trading it in for a Zoe if the monthly cost to do so represents a saving.
For simplicity I would say his trade in will be £5k. Renault are offering an Intens (£15043 new I believe) on HP over 4 years at 0% and with a £1500 deposit contribution. That would leave £8543 to be financed over 48 months which is £178 per month. This deal is for buying the battery outright.
He currently spends £190 per month on the Insignia taking into account tax over the year and fuel.
On top of the £178 will be the costs for charging the car at home. He would be charging it after 6pm on an overnight charge and he covers on average no more than 150 miles per week I would say. What would this cost per week in terms of charging do you think?
Overall, I'm not convinced he'll see much of a saving but then I suppose he is getting a brand new car etc. Is the above deal the best he could hope for at present?
All thoughts and advice much appreciated.
Martin
I think he might find a better (cheaper) deal on the Zoe or the Leaf. But, my own view is that the current crop of EVs don't make a sensible ownership proposition: it is better to lease one.For simplicity I would say his trade in will be £5k. Renault are offering an Intens (£15043 new I believe) on HP over 4 years at 0% and with a £1500 deposit contribution. That would leave £8543 to be financed over 48 months which is £178 per month. This deal is for buying the battery outright.
He currently spends £190 per month on the Insignia taking into account tax over the year and fuel.
On top of the £178 will be the costs for charging the car at home. He would be charging it after 6pm on an overnight charge and he covers on average no more than 150 miles per week I would say. What would this cost per week in terms of charging do you think?
Overall, I'm not convinced he'll see much of a saving but then I suppose he is getting a brand new car etc. Is the above deal the best he could hope for at present?
All thoughts and advice much appreciated.
Martin
Here's why: The technology is so new that you have a real chance of buying something that will be out of date in a couple or three years and that would mean massive depreciation. Also, the life of these cars isn't proven - how long is the battery good for. Finally, you might end up with a lemon and it always helps to have the prospect of giving it back rather than being lumbered with it in such circumstances - just ask in51ght
First proper charging fail last night. Went to the London marathon, my wife drove down on her own and didn't have a full charge. Couldn't get on a charger in central London, decided to top up at the rapid at South Mimms which has been 100% for us so far. I did say I had my fears about the post not working at Mimms and I was right. We should have done a slow charge in North London I suppose.
Both posts were dead, and 12 miles range left with 16 miles to drive up the A1 home. Decided to go to the Uni at Hatfield but there was Leaf and Zoe on the charger, both full and not charging which were part of a car club there. Called Chargemaster but they wouldn't release the cables. If anyone considers using this bear in mind that its not going to be free in the evenings and weekends!
Called Renault for recovery, the car was beeping at me and had gone from 4 to 0 miles in an instant. Truck finally showed up after 2 hours. The agent told Renault if he had to drag the car onto the tow truck he wouldn't be responsible for any damage hence delay, but as the car was still moving under its own steam it was driven on and off the truck. Just don't run out of battery completely seems to be the one thing I have learnt.
Both posts were dead, and 12 miles range left with 16 miles to drive up the A1 home. Decided to go to the Uni at Hatfield but there was Leaf and Zoe on the charger, both full and not charging which were part of a car club there. Called Chargemaster but they wouldn't release the cables. If anyone considers using this bear in mind that its not going to be free in the evenings and weekends!
Called Renault for recovery, the car was beeping at me and had gone from 4 to 0 miles in an instant. Truck finally showed up after 2 hours. The agent told Renault if he had to drag the car onto the tow truck he wouldn't be responsible for any damage hence delay, but as the car was still moving under its own steam it was driven on and off the truck. Just don't run out of battery completely seems to be the one thing I have learnt.
lost in espace said:
First proper charging fail last night. Went to the London marathon, my wife drove down on her own and didn't have a full charge. Couldn't get on a charger in central London, decided to top up at the rapid at South Mimms which has been 100% for us so far. I did say I had my fears about the post not working at Mimms and I was right. We should have done a slow charge in North London I suppose.
Both posts were dead, and 12 miles range left with 16 miles to drive up the A1 home. Decided to go to the Uni at Hatfield but there was Leaf and Zoe on the charger, both full and not charging which were part of a car club there. Called Chargemaster but they wouldn't release the cables. If anyone considers using this bear in mind that its not going to be free in the evenings and weekends!
Called Renault for recovery, the car was beeping at me and had gone from 4 to 0 miles in an instant. Truck finally showed up after 2 hours. The agent told Renault if he had to drag the car onto the tow truck he wouldn't be responsible for any damage hence delay, but as the car was still moving under its own steam it was driven on and off the truck. Just don't run out of battery completely seems to be the one thing I have learnt.
Did the car actually run completely flat and stop then? With 12 miles showing and 16 miles to go I'd have pressed on I think - my understanding is that the range shown is on the conservative sideBoth posts were dead, and 12 miles range left with 16 miles to drive up the A1 home. Decided to go to the Uni at Hatfield but there was Leaf and Zoe on the charger, both full and not charging which were part of a car club there. Called Chargemaster but they wouldn't release the cables. If anyone considers using this bear in mind that its not going to be free in the evenings and weekends!
Called Renault for recovery, the car was beeping at me and had gone from 4 to 0 miles in an instant. Truck finally showed up after 2 hours. The agent told Renault if he had to drag the car onto the tow truck he wouldn't be responsible for any damage hence delay, but as the car was still moving under its own steam it was driven on and off the truck. Just don't run out of battery completely seems to be the one thing I have learnt.
Took Annas Zoe out on sunday as my Leaf was charging and its definitely "nippier" and the gob of torque from 20 mph seems gobbier than the leaf so I booted it over a measured stretch and noted the speed at point A and further on point B went home and got the Leaf and did the same test, the Leaf is fast but doesn't seem it and at point A it was 44 against 41, at point B it was 61 against 54 for the Zoe.
But the Zoe is definitely nippier
But the Zoe is definitely nippier
My current rate of usage will see me doing 12k miles in the Zoe this year against a 10k mileage allowance in the contract.
Looking at the contract though it seems that the excess mileage rate is 5p per mile, so it will cost me an extra £100 per year.
Anyone had any luck in upping their contract mileage allowance or should I just pay the extra at the end?
Looking at the contract though it seems that the excess mileage rate is 5p per mile, so it will cost me an extra £100 per year.
Anyone had any luck in upping their contract mileage allowance or should I just pay the extra at the end?
I think the Gen 1 leafs are a little bit quicker, or at least feel it.
I think at higher speeds the Leaf feels quicker than the Zoe though.
I had a loan of a brand new Clio 200 (1.6 turbo flappy paddle thingy) and even with a full race mode, launch control start the Zoe was slightly ahead of it up to 40mph.
I think at higher speeds the Leaf feels quicker than the Zoe though.
I had a loan of a brand new Clio 200 (1.6 turbo flappy paddle thingy) and even with a full race mode, launch control start the Zoe was slightly ahead of it up to 40mph.
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