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EddieSteadyGo said:
DSLiverpool said:
Deposit = £1800
Rental = £95.78 x 24
Total payable for 2 years = £4098.72
beaten and ordered - £150 doc fee applies
£1800 deposit and £77.12 a month over 2 years
Nissan Birkenhead - ask for Steve
Great work!Rental = £95.78 x 24
Total payable for 2 years = £4098.72
beaten and ordered - £150 doc fee applies
£1800 deposit and £77.12 a month over 2 years
Nissan Birkenhead - ask for Steve
Presume that is for the Tekna at 6000 miles per year?
natcot said:
Can anyone give me a fairly accurate cost per mile based upon charging costs?
I'm hoping I can run and lease a leaf for the same sort of money that I currently pay to run an old Diesel Toyota Verso.
Assumptions (adjust accordingly)I'm hoping I can run and lease a leaf for the same sort of money that I currently pay to run an old Diesel Toyota Verso.
LEAF battery size (usable) = 21kWh
Typical charging losses = 15%
Electricity cost per kWh = 8p
Range = 80 miles
Cost to charge from empty = 21x1.15x0.08 = £1.93
Cost per mile = 2.4p
Get a decent overnight tariff and you can cut that in half (I'm paying 4.3p/kWh).
Say your Toyota does 50mpg @ £1.17/l, cost per mile = 10.6p
In other words, for every 10k miles driven you save £820 in fuel.
Throw into the mix the savings for tax, MOT, servicing and these LEAF deals probably end up costing less per month than most people pay for their broadband package.
DSLiverpool said:
Yes - was yours 7500 ? maybe same deal then lol, they are "forcing" a second charge point at my house for me ie as I have one already they said they will ensure I get a second.
My order was for 6000 miles, so you actually did a bit better than me 
All is good though and at least by posting up our deals, we are helping those who follow in our EV footsteps
EddieSteadyGo said:
DSLiverpool said:
Yes - was yours 7500 ? maybe same deal then lol, they are "forcing" a second charge point at my house for me ie as I have one already they said they will ensure I get a second.
My order was for 6000 miles, so you actually did a bit better than me All is good though and at least by posting up our deals, we are helping those who follow in our EV footsteps
EddieSteadyGo said:
Plus Nissan are giving the 14 days of free hire car per year. If you assume hire car cost is £35 / day, this is worth around £1000 over the course of 2 years.
Eddie,do you have any further details for this/online details etc? I had heard about this, but no mention of It from the dealer
NK51XXX said:
Eddie,
do you have any further details for this/online details etc? I had heard about this, but no mention of It from the dealer
No worries!do you have any further details for this/online details etc? I had heard about this, but no mention of It from the dealer
Found the article! Thanks for the heads up.
http://www.nissan.co.uk/content/dam/services/gb/br...
mids said:
Assumptions (adjust accordingly)
LEAF battery size (usable) = 21kWh
Typical charging losses = 15%
Electricity cost per kWh = 8p
Range = 80 miles
Cost to charge from empty = 21x1.15x0.08 = £1.93
Cost per mile = 2.4p
Get a decent overnight tariff and you can cut that in half (I'm paying 4.3p/kWh).
Say your Toyota does 50mpg @ £1.17/l, cost per mile = 10.6p
In other words, for every 10k miles driven you save £820 in fuel.
Throw into the mix the savings for tax, MOT, servicing and these LEAF deals probably end up costing less per month than most people pay for their broadband package.
That cost per kwh sounds cheap, I'm sure ours is around 12p or something. LEAF battery size (usable) = 21kWh
Typical charging losses = 15%
Electricity cost per kWh = 8p
Range = 80 miles
Cost to charge from empty = 21x1.15x0.08 = £1.93
Cost per mile = 2.4p
Get a decent overnight tariff and you can cut that in half (I'm paying 4.3p/kWh).
Say your Toyota does 50mpg @ £1.17/l, cost per mile = 10.6p
In other words, for every 10k miles driven you save £820 in fuel.
Throw into the mix the savings for tax, MOT, servicing and these LEAF deals probably end up costing less per month than most people pay for their broadband package.
Economy 7 night rates bump up your day rate considerably too. You need to have storage heating and ability to put your appliances on timer overnight to make it viable.
I'm working on the assumption that a full charge costs about £3. It's like filling an average petrol engine small car and it costing £15 to brim it.
Very, very rough workings out though!
dave_s13 said:
That cost per kwh sounds cheap, I'm sure ours is around 12p or something.
8p might be cheap for you, but it's expensive for others (me included), it varies a lot so it was just an estimate to give natcot some numbers. Using kWh costs of 10p or 12p or whatever to work it out is just tweaking the small end of the equation.dave_s13 said:
Economy 7 night rates bump up your day rate considerably too. You need to have storage heating and ability to put your appliances on timer overnight to make it viable.
Not true for my household, once I started charging an EV overnight it was an easy win for the cheap night-time tariff option but obviously every situation is different and it's simple enough to work out which is best.mids said:
dave_s13 said:
That cost per kwh sounds cheap, I'm sure ours is around 12p or something.
8p might be cheap for you, but it's expensive for others (me included), it varies a lot so it was just an estimate to give natcot some numbers. Using kWh costs of 10p or 12p or whatever to work it out is just tweaking the small end of the equation.dave_s13 said:
Economy 7 night rates bump up your day rate considerably too. You need to have storage heating and ability to put your appliances on timer overnight to make it viable.
Not true for my household, once I started charging an EV overnight it was an easy win for the cheap night-time tariff option but obviously every situation is different and it's simple enough to work out which is best.I'd be interested to know who you're with and how it works for you. My home is heated with a combi boiler. All cooking is electric and obviously the car to charge up. I mistakenly let me wife sort out the energy supplier last year and I'm not sure she nailed down the best deal to be honest.
rudebhoy said:
Are the deals quoted above all you pay?
Short answer is yes, it is all you pay.The dealer is taking about a 'flex' deal when you hire the batteries. However, the deals quoted above are called 'non flex' or buy/buy and so there are no battery rental cost.
The PCP point is a bit of a red herring. You can take the car on PCP either as a flex i.e. battery rental is extra, or as a PCP buy/buy, when the cost of the battery is included in the PCP deal.
I would just point your dealer at this thread and ask them to match/beat the best deals listed. Whether they will or not will depend upon whether they have already sold their leaf allocation for this quarter.
Edited by EddieSteadyGo on Thursday 12th March 20:30
dave_s13 said:
Who does an 8p rate then?
I'm paying 4.3p/kWh night rate from British Gas on a fixed tariff (14 month fix). The only requirements were "must remain a Dual Fuel Customer and have a credit meter and pay by Direct Debit". Happy to give more info if you want it but probs best if you PM me rather than take this thread too far away from the juicy LEAF deals being discussed EddieSteadyGo said:
I would just point your dealer at this thread and ask them to match/beat the best deals listed.
I did that at another Nissan dealer, they suggested that the deals quoted were probably employee discounts... When I ordered mine the salesman said the current offers were better than the employee offers usually are.Something else he said (and I don't know how true it is) was the whole dealer bonus hangs on meeting the targets for the Leaf- they may sell double their target for all other models but if they don't meet the one for the Leaf they don't get anything.
Alfa numeric said:
EddieSteadyGo said:
I would just point your dealer at this thread and ask them to match/beat the best deals listed.
I did that at another Nissan dealer, they suggested that the deals quoted were probably employee discounts... When I ordered mine the salesman said the current offers were better than the employee offers usually are.Something else he said (and I don't know how true it is) was the whole dealer bonus hangs on meeting the targets for the Leaf- they may sell double their target for all other models but if they don't meet the one for the Leaf they don't get anything.
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