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What are owners' experiences like?
I have been trying to persuade the wife to swap her car for one. They are perfect for her needs. Lots of 10-50 mile trips. Nearly all daily journeys begin or end at home. All long journeys are done in my Rangie.
However, she loves her Toyota Landcruiser V8. High seating position, reliability and built like a tank are her three reasons for liking it.
I think she is happy to be persuaded out of the Toyota. High seating will be the most difficult for her to give up on. I think I can deal with the tank issue with 5 star NCAP ratings.
However, if it breaks down, my name will be mud. Until the car goes.
Any bad experiences?
I have been trying to persuade the wife to swap her car for one. They are perfect for her needs. Lots of 10-50 mile trips. Nearly all daily journeys begin or end at home. All long journeys are done in my Rangie.
However, she loves her Toyota Landcruiser V8. High seating position, reliability and built like a tank are her three reasons for liking it.
I think she is happy to be persuaded out of the Toyota. High seating will be the most difficult for her to give up on. I think I can deal with the tank issue with 5 star NCAP ratings.
However, if it breaks down, my name will be mud. Until the car goes.
Any bad experiences?
AstonZagato said:
What are owners' experiences like?
I have been trying to persuade the wife to swap her car for one. They are perfect for her needs. Lots of 10-50 mile trips. Nearly all daily journeys begin or end at home. All long journeys are done in my Rangie.
However, she loves her Toyota Landcruiser V8. High seating position, reliability and built like a tank are her three reasons for liking it.
I think she is happy to be persuaded out of the Toyota. High seating will be the most difficult for her to give up on. I think I can deal with the tank issue with 5 star NCAP ratings.
However, if it breaks down, my name will be mud. Until the car goes.
Any bad experiences?
Sounds like you want one. So, buy it! How often do you do more than 250 miles in a day? I was recently looking at a job that would have me driving 120 miles a day. The Tesla made sense especially as the toll bridge I would go over offered a discount to EVs. I think the Tesla is suited to high mileage big commutes to really make sense. And, for that job I was going for the offered free charging in spaces close to the door. It meant I would be paid to have good parking. I have been trying to persuade the wife to swap her car for one. They are perfect for her needs. Lots of 10-50 mile trips. Nearly all daily journeys begin or end at home. All long journeys are done in my Rangie.
However, she loves her Toyota Landcruiser V8. High seating position, reliability and built like a tank are her three reasons for liking it.
I think she is happy to be persuaded out of the Toyota. High seating will be the most difficult for her to give up on. I think I can deal with the tank issue with 5 star NCAP ratings.
However, if it breaks down, my name will be mud. Until the car goes.
Any bad experiences?
bobbsie said:
A friend has just got one.
She now suffers range anxiety, and that's my big problem with them and why for now I'd choose a hybrid rather than pure ev.
They are big too, so car parks and other tight spots are tricky. Ok if you're used to jags I guess.
I find it halirous when Tesla owners complain about 'range anxiety'. If you want TRUE 'range anxiety' try driving a Nissan Leaf on a 150 mile trip - Something I'm about to do next weekend. Even my wife who normally starts panicking when the fuel gauge goes to 1/4 full now admit the range on our Leaf is not an issue, providing you have enough mental capacity to plan ahead.She now suffers range anxiety, and that's my big problem with them and why for now I'd choose a hybrid rather than pure ev.
They are big too, so car parks and other tight spots are tricky. Ok if you're used to jags I guess.
The Model X is now ready for configuration for early orders, the falcon doors are 100% there. We're waiting for final UK prices to be confirmed, and than we're pre-ordering one. The timing will be perfect for us, as early 2017 is when our Leaf goes back to Nissan. Cannot wait
I got my Tesla in January and have a little over 19,000 miles on mine. Range anxiety should only affect those living in Wales or Scotland and perhaps Norfolk.
Even then, with a £400 Chademo connector you can charge around the country at a rate of circa 120 miles of range in one hour now. So if you can't get to a Tesla supercharger that charges at up to 350 miles of range in an hour (so realisticaly a 20 minute top up will give you circa 115 miles of range)then a top up at a Chademo charger will cover you.
Even then, with a £400 Chademo connector you can charge around the country at a rate of circa 120 miles of range in one hour now. So if you can't get to a Tesla supercharger that charges at up to 350 miles of range in an hour (so realisticaly a 20 minute top up will give you circa 115 miles of range)then a top up at a Chademo charger will cover you.
I have been very close to ordering a tesla once, and got a bit close a second time. The big difficulty for me is doing one 320-mile trip in a day each month (and it is so irritating that they cannot decide what the charge for the car and just stick to it - there seem to have been 4 quite different pricing structures in place in the last year). There is a supercharger en route - but I don't find the idea of diverting off the motorway for half an hour some 40 minutes after leaving home and/or 40 minutes before getting home attractive. And they emailed me an update yesterday about 6 new superchargers opened on motorways - with a link to a map that didn't even show all the superchargers they had before that update.
The real killer for me though was the thought of spending £60k on something that I would have to leave at home for certain long trips, so I bought a discovery instead. Might get a Tesla next time, though...
The real killer for me though was the thought of spending £60k on something that I would have to leave at home for certain long trips, so I bought a discovery instead. Might get a Tesla next time, though...
Also:
- once in a car park my friend found 3 EV sockets. 2 weren't working so she used the 3rd. Returned to find her plug removed and someone else had plugged theirs in
- one charging point had other, non-EV) cars parked.
just little vignettes of stressful moments that can easily occur when the infrastructure is in its early days. For now, i'd consider an EV for a regular, predictable commute. Problem with the Tessla is that it's clearly a luxury long distance cruiser…
Musk has done a great job in making EV sexy and is also building out the infrastructure. He has way more vision than the other players and making this a lifestyle choice not just a product. But you need an early adopter mindset for another couple of years, which is fine.
- once in a car park my friend found 3 EV sockets. 2 weren't working so she used the 3rd. Returned to find her plug removed and someone else had plugged theirs in
- one charging point had other, non-EV) cars parked.
just little vignettes of stressful moments that can easily occur when the infrastructure is in its early days. For now, i'd consider an EV for a regular, predictable commute. Problem with the Tessla is that it's clearly a luxury long distance cruiser…
Musk has done a great job in making EV sexy and is also building out the infrastructure. He has way more vision than the other players and making this a lifestyle choice not just a product. But you need an early adopter mindset for another couple of years, which is fine.
oop north said:
I have been very close to ordering a tesla once, and got a bit close a second time. The big difficulty for me is doing one 320-mile trip in a day each month (and it is so irritating that they cannot decide what the charge for the car and just stick to it - there seem to have been 4 quite different pricing structures in place in the last year). There is a supercharger en route - but I don't find the idea of diverting off the motorway for half an hour some 40 minutes after leaving home and/or 40 minutes before getting home attractive. And they emailed me an update yesterday about 6 new superchargers opened on motorways - with a link to a map that didn't even show all the superchargers they had before that update.
The real killer for me though was the thought of spending £60k on something that I would have to leave at home for certain long trips, so I bought a discovery instead. Might get a Tesla next time, though...
I'm planning to use motorway dc charging as well as the superchargers. It's not as fast but I recon a 20 min comfort stop each way when doing 320 miles round trip is not unreasonable and I think you'd get 50 miles into the car each time. I've ordered a 90D to get max range which I think is working range of maybe 275 miles. It's tight I admit The real killer for me though was the thought of spending £60k on something that I would have to leave at home for certain long trips, so I bought a discovery instead. Might get a Tesla next time, though...
The current map of superchargers is a joke though.
ukshooter said:
I got my Tesla in January and have a little over 19,000 miles on mine. Range anxiety should only affect those living in Wales or Scotland and perhaps Norfolk.
Even then, with a £400 Chademo connector you can charge around the country at a rate of circa 120 miles of range in one hour now. So if you can't get to a Tesla supercharger that charges at up to 350 miles of range in an hour (so realisticaly a 20 minute top up will give you circa 115 miles of range)then a top up at a Chademo charger will cover you.
You'd think that but return journeys across the Central Belt of Scotland are easily within range. Even then, with a £400 Chademo connector you can charge around the country at a rate of circa 120 miles of range in one hour now. So if you can't get to a Tesla supercharger that charges at up to 350 miles of range in an hour (so realisticaly a 20 minute top up will give you circa 115 miles of range)then a top up at a Chademo charger will cover you.
Even better as you can access free parking with free charging in most town/City centres.
Return to Aberdeen is doable as is Inverness at a push. Borders are equally easy so no major cities are out of reach across Scotland for me.
I'm seriously considering a 90D at the moment.
Edited by Edinburger on Saturday 5th September 14:27
JonV8V said:
oop north said:
I have been very close to ordering a tesla once, and got a bit close a second time. The big difficulty for me is doing one 320-mile trip in a day each month (and it is so irritating that they cannot decide what the charge for the car and just stick to it - there seem to have been 4 quite different pricing structures in place in the last year). There is a supercharger en route - but I don't find the idea of diverting off the motorway for half an hour some 40 minutes after leaving home and/or 40 minutes before getting home attractive. And they emailed me an update yesterday about 6 new superchargers opened on motorways - with a link to a map that didn't even show all the superchargers they had before that update.
The real killer for me though was the thought of spending £60k on something that I would have to leave at home for certain long trips, so I bought a discovery instead. Might get a Tesla next time, though...
I'm planning to use motorway dc charging as well as the superchargers. It's not as fast but I recon a 20 min comfort stop each way when doing 320 miles round trip is not unreasonable and I think you'd get 50 miles into the car each time. I've ordered a 90D to get max range which I think is working range of maybe 275 miles. It's tight I admit The real killer for me though was the thought of spending £60k on something that I would have to leave at home for certain long trips, so I bought a discovery instead. Might get a Tesla next time, though...
The current map of superchargers is a joke though.
strudel said:
Without requiring too much detail, are people using Tesla for finance or a 3rd party? I make Tesla to be 30% deposit and about 3.15% Flat - it's the large deposit that concerns me, I'd rather invest that cash myself, plus other marques seem to require less.
Company car here because saving half the lease cost v 5% benefit in kind makes a lot of sense,strudel said:
Answer to my previous question:
Tesla do offer a 15% deposit option. If you take 6 year financing you still have buyback option at 3 years at 50% of car value plus 43% of options. To my eyes that's no different to buying a non-Tesla on a 3 year PCP.
I think the key is whether you want to keep it for 3 years although thats no different to any other scheme. Tesla do offer a 15% deposit option. If you take 6 year financing you still have buyback option at 3 years at 50% of car value plus 43% of options. To my eyes that's no different to buying a non-Tesla on a 3 year PCP.
There was some debate about the 50%/43% and whether its 50% of the car price or the base price - some seemed to think it was the base car price ie a 70 not the actual car. That doesn't make a lot of sense but might be worth checking as 7% may be a fair bit if you're looking at the quicker cars.
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