Electric only and company mileage rates/ tax

Electric only and company mileage rates/ tax

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Foliage

3,861 posts

123 months

Friday 2nd October 2015
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This all sounds like bullst to me.

If I had a privately owned tesla id expect at least 45p per mile, how the company deals with tax on this, not my problem.

If I had a company tesla id expect to be reimbursed for any fuel ive used (electricity is still a fuel) in the course of business, with the supply of receipts, not sure exactly how id do this... separate meter for the tesla and take photos after each time the vehicle is charged perhaps, this will get complicated (due to peak/offpeak electrity tariffs etc) but isn't beyond the wit of man. Again how the company deals with the tax on that isn't my problem.

The charger in your home, meter and any other kit would need to be lumped into the price of the car at source. Any chargers in the work place would just need to be capital expenditure and for anyone to use.


If it was my business id be encouraging this and of course performing a cost benefit analysis, because tbh the environment in the sense of a business is irrelevant, profit is everything.

Sounds to me that who ever you've spoken too is to lazy to bother looking into it properly or see's you having a tesla as 'aspirational' and is jealous.

JonV8V

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7,232 posts

125 months

Friday 2nd October 2015
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Foliage said:
This all sounds like bullst to me.

If I had a privately owned tesla id expect at least 45p per mile, how the company deals with tax on this, not my problem.

If I had a company tesla id expect to be reimbursed for any fuel ive used (electricity is still a fuel) in the course of business, with the supply of receipts, not sure exactly how id do this... separate meter for the tesla and take photos after each time the vehicle is charged perhaps, this will get complicated (due to peak/offpeak electrity tariffs etc) but isn't beyond the wit of man. Again how the company deals with the tax on that isn't my problem.

The charger in your home, meter and any other kit would need to be lumped into the price of the car at source.


If it was my business id be encouraging this and of course performing a cost benefit analysis, because tbh the environment in the sense of a business is irrelevant, profit is everything.

Sounds to me that who ever you've spoken too is to lazy to bother looking into it properly or see's you having a tesla as 'aspirational' and is jealous.
You can get 45p a mile through tax allowance IF its your car used on company business. What you cant get is anything if its a company car, not even 5p a mile towards electricity.

Foliage

3,861 posts

123 months

Friday 2nd October 2015
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JonV8V said:
You can get 45p a mile through tax allowance IF its your car used on company business. What you cant get is anything if its a company car, not even 5p a mile towards electricity.
How do you claim for public transport? an all electric train for example, or an electric taxi?

Or infact a hotel stay, or a meal?

JonV8V

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7,232 posts

125 months

Friday 2nd October 2015
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Foliage said:
JonV8V said:
You can get 45p a mile through tax allowance IF its your car used on company business. What you cant get is anything if its a company car, not even 5p a mile towards electricity.
How do you claim for public transport? an all electric train for example, or an electric taxi?

Or infact a hotel stay, or a meal?
Are you being serious?

Public transport, hotels, meals etc are generally all recovered at the face value of a receipt.

If you don't believe me, please find some evidence to contradict it rather than just quote other irrelevant expenses.

Foliage

3,861 posts

123 months

Friday 2nd October 2015
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JonV8V said:
Are you being serious?

Public transport, hotels, meals etc are generally all recovered at the face value of a receipt.

If you don't believe me, please find some evidence to contradict it rather than just quote other irrelevant expenses.
If you have a company car why couldn't you claim the fuel at the face value of a receipt? Keep a comprehensive mileage log, pay for your personal used fuel yourself.

Also having a look at the HMRC website, lots of mentions of zero emission cars but cant find any mention of fuel. I think a quick call to HMRC would likely give an answer.

Sounds to me like your company is just being a challenge.

JonV8V

Original Poster:

7,232 posts

125 months

Friday 2nd October 2015
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Foliage said:
JonV8V said:
Are you being serious?

Public transport, hotels, meals etc are generally all recovered at the face value of a receipt.

If you don't believe me, please find some evidence to contradict it rather than just quote other irrelevant expenses.
If you have a company car why couldn't you claim the fuel at the face value of a receipt? Keep a comprehensive mileage log, pay for your personal used fuel yourself.

Also having a look at the HMRC website, lots of mentions of zero emission cars but cant find any mention of fuel. I think a quick call to HMRC would likely give an answer.

Sounds to me like your company is just being a challenge.
http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/manuals/eimanual/EIM23900.htm

Explicitly states what I'm saying - last entry

talksthetorque

10,815 posts

136 months

Friday 2nd October 2015
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EV only is an anomaly. BUT The advised company car fuel rates are just that. Advice.
Read section 2.1 Here
It is a bit double negative strewn but states if you can prove the costs are different, or more than the AFR then you can claim that cost.