BMW 330e ordered...
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Gb908010 said:
Hello
Newbie here, I am due company car renewal in January 17. Currently drive v60 d4 which is excellent for mpg as I am getting 55mpg and nearly 800 miles to a tank.
Annual mileage is 40,000
I am obviously attracted by the Low bik for the 330e but I am concerned about the overall range of the car.
What are you guys getting out of the car in total? I have to pay for fuel and then claim it back so for the 330e I would get the hrmc 13p. For me to break even I really need to be getting 320 miles in total.
My company will not reimburse for home charging costs but I am prepared to soak that cost due to the very low bik.
My only other option is to go for a 2.1 diesel like a merc as I would get more per mile back. My colleagues have mercs and they are making around £20 profit per tank. This over a year for me makes about £1200.
The diesel for me makes more practical sense but I can't ignore the low bik of the 330e or even the Passat gte
Have you looked at the Volvo plug-in hybrids ? They are diesel, or are you looking to move away from Volvo ?Newbie here, I am due company car renewal in January 17. Currently drive v60 d4 which is excellent for mpg as I am getting 55mpg and nearly 800 miles to a tank.
Annual mileage is 40,000
I am obviously attracted by the Low bik for the 330e but I am concerned about the overall range of the car.
What are you guys getting out of the car in total? I have to pay for fuel and then claim it back so for the 330e I would get the hrmc 13p. For me to break even I really need to be getting 320 miles in total.
My company will not reimburse for home charging costs but I am prepared to soak that cost due to the very low bik.
My only other option is to go for a 2.1 diesel like a merc as I would get more per mile back. My colleagues have mercs and they are making around £20 profit per tank. This over a year for me makes about £1200.
The diesel for me makes more practical sense but I can't ignore the low bik of the 330e or even the Passat gte
I happy to stick with volvo as it's been a great car but I wanted the r design phev and they are £52k😳
But saying that if you go for se spec you can add styling kit which I am happy with so could be a good choice 👍.
I test drove a d5 a few years ago and the engine is amazing,the 5 cylinder growl is brilliant but it was a license looser 😂
But saying that if you go for se spec you can add styling kit which I am happy with so could be a good choice 👍.
I test drove a d5 a few years ago and the engine is amazing,the 5 cylinder growl is brilliant but it was a license looser 😂
so i have a 330e Msport for the last 3 weeks and have covered 3k miles in it
if you drive as a normal petrol car not plugging it in you will get about 40mpg - drive it hard and you F-all MPG
if you want the car to charge itself during a journey - it will only charge to a maximum of 50% battery, and your mpg on a motorway at 70mph goes down to about 20mpg while charging - but it does it very quickly
if you fully charge your car and drive through suburbia to then a motorway it will do about 98 miles before all your battery is depleted as it is constantly supplement the petrol engine MPG is good to that point then you are running on engine only with some charging from breaking and coasting - it rises to about 9/10% and seems to hold it there - enough for traffic jams but not city driving MPG drops
i can get about 17 miles on electric only - no matter in the city or rural
i feel i am constantly refuelling the dam thing - 300 miles to tank a little more if i charge the thing first
finding usable EV points and differing charges and companies is complex and not a quick process too
it supplements the petrol power with electricity when you floor it - and from the lights too- very very quick - i was hoping for much more - i don't think this car is good for the long distance driver due to the amount of filling up that is needed - and the complexity of finding charge points -
it is incredibly quiet inside - and makes it easy to frighten people who do step out infront of you in carparks
my company tax now costs me about £600 year halved from a BMW efficient dynamic which i could get 800 miles to tank - but was boring as hell to drive.
any more Qs i will try to help out
if you drive as a normal petrol car not plugging it in you will get about 40mpg - drive it hard and you F-all MPG
if you want the car to charge itself during a journey - it will only charge to a maximum of 50% battery, and your mpg on a motorway at 70mph goes down to about 20mpg while charging - but it does it very quickly
if you fully charge your car and drive through suburbia to then a motorway it will do about 98 miles before all your battery is depleted as it is constantly supplement the petrol engine MPG is good to that point then you are running on engine only with some charging from breaking and coasting - it rises to about 9/10% and seems to hold it there - enough for traffic jams but not city driving MPG drops
i can get about 17 miles on electric only - no matter in the city or rural
i feel i am constantly refuelling the dam thing - 300 miles to tank a little more if i charge the thing first
finding usable EV points and differing charges and companies is complex and not a quick process too
it supplements the petrol power with electricity when you floor it - and from the lights too- very very quick - i was hoping for much more - i don't think this car is good for the long distance driver due to the amount of filling up that is needed - and the complexity of finding charge points -
it is incredibly quiet inside - and makes it easy to frighten people who do step out infront of you in carparks
my company tax now costs me about £600 year halved from a BMW efficient dynamic which i could get 800 miles to tank - but was boring as hell to drive.
any more Qs i will try to help out
Thanks a lot for the details,just what I needed. I can easily cover 400+ miles 3 days a week so 1200 a week so the bmw for me would get on my nerves constantly filling up.
I will look at the lease rates for the volvo and see what the cost comes out at.
If we had fuel cards at work I wouldn't be so bothered and go for the 330e but I don't want to be out of pocket for work purposes.
I will look at the lease rates for the volvo and see what the cost comes out at.
If we had fuel cards at work I wouldn't be so bothered and go for the 330e but I don't want to be out of pocket for work purposes.
Only had mine 2 weeks and done 500 miles and now it's in bmw being fixed as its had an ignition error message since day 1 and won't switch Back to electric so hard to tell proper mpg at the moment plus the engine isn't fully run in.
One thing I have noticed though.. If you're not a long distance driver then Eco pro feels so unrewarding.. Very boring unless plodding along the motorway at a constant speed! Switch it to comfort or sport and it's good fun.. Especially on country lanes in paddle shift
One thing I have noticed though.. If you're not a long distance driver then Eco pro feels so unrewarding.. Very boring unless plodding along the motorway at a constant speed! Switch it to comfort or sport and it's good fun.. Especially on country lanes in paddle shift
Also if you are sometimes seeing 55 you are most definatly using electric too - have you been charging it via mains ?
Your 38mog reading will go up if you switch to elec mode only so Engine does not cut in as your not using any petrol it will go up - it still calculated as normal the amount of petrol used per mile - so if on electric you are using no fuel
Your 38mog reading will go up if you switch to elec mode only so Engine does not cut in as your not using any petrol it will go up - it still calculated as normal the amount of petrol used per mile - so if on electric you are using no fuel
Yes, the trip computer shows the mpg. I meant the assumed mpg over the course of the journey which shows on the app.. Ie the fuel used on the journey. I charge it at home and don't think anything of it in terms of electricity cost as I probably Charge it twice a week, and could charge it after 9pm so the energy is half price if I wanted.
So on that basis I just see my journeys as the fuel I've used over the full journey. As all petrol/diesel cars are measured by fuel economy mpg it makes sense to look at it that way, I don't really see the electricity as a cost. If I used a gallon over a 50 mile trip and 25% was electric.. I'd just view it as a 50mpg
So on that basis I just see my journeys as the fuel I've used over the full journey. As all petrol/diesel cars are measured by fuel economy mpg it makes sense to look at it that way, I don't really see the electricity as a cost. If I used a gallon over a 50 mile trip and 25% was electric.. I'd just view it as a 50mpg
Yes on shorter runs if you have some electric the mpg is ok - I don't do shorter runs too often
I think these cars only really save if you charge each day and have a commute to work of about 10/15 miles then it would work but spending £35k to commute in 3 series - historically the 3 and 5 s were reps cars for hitting the motorways this hybrid I don't know about others appears to be a complete false economy
I will state though the car itself is fun a very solid ride on 19s with run flats after 250 miles tires your out - has nice sound and toys inside to keep you busy and the app is ok -
See my trips here some I charged some I didn't - not all my trips are on here - forgot to plug in and turn app on!!
I think these cars only really save if you charge each day and have a commute to work of about 10/15 miles then it would work but spending £35k to commute in 3 series - historically the 3 and 5 s were reps cars for hitting the motorways this hybrid I don't know about others appears to be a complete false economy
I will state though the car itself is fun a very solid ride on 19s with run flats after 250 miles tires your out - has nice sound and toys inside to keep you busy and the app is ok -
See my trips here some I charged some I didn't - not all my trips are on here - forgot to plug in and turn app on!!
I would like something different to my v60 but when you sit and do the math it's a no Brainer for me.
Low bik due to phev,2.4 diesel so I will be able to claim the higher rate back so I will be saving a lot of money.
I'm hoping the car is on the list but pretty confident as I'm group 4 out of 5.
Lease rates for volvo are pretty good too,I can remember last time I was looking at a merc cla against my current volvo and merc wanted £65 more per month to upgrade and this was zero extras compared too £2k worth of extras in volvo.
Low bik due to phev,2.4 diesel so I will be able to claim the higher rate back so I will be saving a lot of money.
I'm hoping the car is on the list but pretty confident as I'm group 4 out of 5.
Lease rates for volvo are pretty good too,I can remember last time I was looking at a merc cla against my current volvo and merc wanted £65 more per month to upgrade and this was zero extras compared too £2k worth of extras in volvo.
Yeah the 330e only really works in terms of mpg if you have a local commute. We commute a total of 14 miles per day & charge every night, so drive almost totally on electric. However the temptation to boot it does mean it does click over to petrol occasionally ;-)
If anyone is doing longer drives then, other than the BIK saving, it may not be the car for you - mpg drops to the low 30s & because of the small tank you fill up fairly often (& it also gives the impression you are getting really low MPG as the needle on the dial heads left!).
There's no doubt it's a great car with exciting technology - it's also fast & fun to drive. However there are limitations (especially as the boot is so small that a roofbox is almost a necessity for lugging around more than a couple of suitcases!).
If anyone is doing longer drives then, other than the BIK saving, it may not be the car for you - mpg drops to the low 30s & because of the small tank you fill up fairly often (& it also gives the impression you are getting really low MPG as the needle on the dial heads left!).
There's no doubt it's a great car with exciting technology - it's also fast & fun to drive. However there are limitations (especially as the boot is so small that a roofbox is almost a necessity for lugging around more than a couple of suitcases!).
I think the industry should be much clear about their milage on these vehicles - it appears to be a bit of a false economy
It's clear from this thread there is a lot of clarification needed - before ordering I could find nothing about this vehicle not even BMW were able to help - I think there will be some disappointed reps out there
It's clear from this thread there is a lot of clarification needed - before ordering I could find nothing about this vehicle not even BMW were able to help - I think there will be some disappointed reps out there
330edriver said:
I think the industry should be much clear about their milage on these vehicles - it appears to be a bit of a false economy
It's clear from this thread there is a lot of clarification needed - before ordering I could find nothing about this vehicle not even BMW were able to help - I think there will be some disappointed reps out there
I think most people knew exactly what they were going to get with the 330e. I think after 5 mins on the web no private buyer with a reasonable commute or regularly doing a bit of distance driving was under any illusion about the overall mpg with this phev spec. The app 40mpg petrol only that it actually delivers is pretty decent and the saving with regular charging is a bonus which is huge for those short commuters it applies to. It's clear from this thread there is a lot of clarification needed - before ordering I could find nothing about this vehicle not even BMW were able to help - I think there will be some disappointed reps out there
Likewise at the other end of the scale, for any bik company car driver with fuel provided as well it was a total no-brainer if the 330e was on your list.
Griff03 said:
I have a quote for zero upfront £284 per month and 13000 miles. Is this good?
Also do people find they are saving on fuel
I work in health in the community and will travel 30 to 70 miles a day rural and urban max 50 unless I floor it!
Is this price from a salary sacrifice scheme? I went for private lease 6 + 23. £232 pm. Maintenance including Also do people find they are saving on fuel
I work in health in the community and will travel 30 to 70 miles a day rural and urban max 50 unless I floor it!
Not salary sacrifice its part of working in the community. Having reduce rates. It's the 284 none upfront. Insurance, servicing, tyres etc included. This has 5000 business and 8000 personal. I had though about buying a cheap leaf and driving it till its wrecked but I fancy something nicer.
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