BMW 330e ordered...
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Mine has now done 3500miles.
Likes:
MPG has improved to the point I now get very slightly more than I used to get commuting in my 320d.
It is dam quick when you need it to be.
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To get the higher mpg is a real pain and requires constant knocking the car in to manual, using battery save mode (buit only in certain circumstances).
At anything less than 20% battery, no matter what I do it starts to regenerate.
The 'intelligent system' is far from intelligent. Mine remains in battery mode when you are on roads with speed limits of 60/70 so if you are stuck at about 50mph it just stays in battery, which makes the battery disappear in an instant.
BMW - A while back I raised with BMW that you cannot use the Sat Nav in the 330e. Recently they came back to me saying yep its not right, but we are going to do nothing about it.
Because I have done lots of miles in the car, I now know how to drive it to make it efficent. If my wife drives it (as she does rarely) mpg goes through the floor. You shouldnt have to learn how to drive it efficiently.
Likes:
MPG has improved to the point I now get very slightly more than I used to get commuting in my 320d.
It is dam quick when you need it to be.
Dislike
To get the higher mpg is a real pain and requires constant knocking the car in to manual, using battery save mode (buit only in certain circumstances).
At anything less than 20% battery, no matter what I do it starts to regenerate.
The 'intelligent system' is far from intelligent. Mine remains in battery mode when you are on roads with speed limits of 60/70 so if you are stuck at about 50mph it just stays in battery, which makes the battery disappear in an instant.
BMW - A while back I raised with BMW that you cannot use the Sat Nav in the 330e. Recently they came back to me saying yep its not right, but we are going to do nothing about it.
Because I have done lots of miles in the car, I now know how to drive it to make it efficent. If my wife drives it (as she does rarely) mpg goes through the floor. You shouldnt have to learn how to drive it efficiently.
Funkydunc said:
Mine has now done 3500miles.
The 'intelligent system' is far from intelligent. Mine remains in battery mode when you are on roads with speed limits of 60/70 so if you are stuck at about 50mph it just stays in battery, which makes the battery disappear in an instant.
What do you mean 'remains in battery mode...'? Do you mean, after you've selected maxEV, it stays electric even when you go over 50?The 'intelligent system' is far from intelligent. Mine remains in battery mode when you are on roads with speed limits of 60/70 so if you are stuck at about 50mph it just stays in battery, which makes the battery disappear in an instant.
In Auto, mine cuts to ICE at about 52mph, or earlier if I'm on a hill, it certainly wouldn't stay electric at 60/70 unless I had forced it into MaxEV? Assuming the car doesn't know your destination (comments about the intelligent satnav in another thread please) then it might be perfectly acceptable to stay in electric at those sorts of speeds? If I nip into town I'm OK with it doing that. If I know I've got further to go then I might leave it in Auto or SAVE.
Tonycv51 said:
Heated steering wheel is actually the best thing in the comfort package (along with split folding rear seats unless they're standard now)
I wouldn't disagree, the heated steering wheel is a real bonus, if you want heated seats and folding rear seats the comfort pack is well worth it!bigphil47 said:
I wouldn't disagree, the heated steering wheel is a real bonus, if you want heated seats and folding rear seats the comfort pack is well worth it!
The bmw packages can be good value if they suit your required spec. I wanted the heated front + folding rear seats so comfort pack was a no brainer and the heated steering wheel is a real bonus. Never really thought much about it until I got it tbh.Same with the msport plus. I really wanted the bi-colour 442 alloys and the HK so the package worked for me there too.
Funkydunc said:
Mine has now done 3500miles.
Likes:
MPG has improved to the point I now get very slightly more than I used to get commuting in my 320d.
It is dam quick when you need it to be.
Dislike
To get the higher mpg is a real pain and requires constant knocking the car in to manual, using battery save mode (buit only in certain circumstances).
At anything less than 20% battery, no matter what I do it starts to regenerate.
The 'intelligent system' is far from intelligent. Mine remains in battery mode when you are on roads with speed limits of 60/70 so if you are stuck at about 50mph it just stays in battery, which makes the battery disappear in an instant.
BMW - A while back I raised with BMW that you cannot use the Sat Nav in the 330e. Recently they came back to me saying yep its not right, but we are going to do nothing about it.
Because I have done lots of miles in the car, I now know how to drive it to make it efficent. If my wife drives it (as she does rarely) mpg goes through the floor. You shouldnt have to learn how to drive it efficiently.
Hi mate. Likes:
MPG has improved to the point I now get very slightly more than I used to get commuting in my 320d.
It is dam quick when you need it to be.
Dislike
To get the higher mpg is a real pain and requires constant knocking the car in to manual, using battery save mode (buit only in certain circumstances).
At anything less than 20% battery, no matter what I do it starts to regenerate.
The 'intelligent system' is far from intelligent. Mine remains in battery mode when you are on roads with speed limits of 60/70 so if you are stuck at about 50mph it just stays in battery, which makes the battery disappear in an instant.
BMW - A while back I raised with BMW that you cannot use the Sat Nav in the 330e. Recently they came back to me saying yep its not right, but we are going to do nothing about it.
Because I have done lots of miles in the car, I now know how to drive it to make it efficent. If my wife drives it (as she does rarely) mpg goes through the floor. You shouldnt have to learn how to drive it efficiently.
What's the worse case MPG when your wife drives it? I have one as a demo next week so will be trying various modes.
Duffman786 said:
Hi mate.
What's the worse case MPG when your wife drives it? I have one as a demo next week so will be trying various modes.
It will really depend on your journey length and traffic vs charge state What's the worse case MPG when your wife drives it? I have one as a demo next week so will be trying various modes.
On my return trip from work with less than 15% battery I get about 40mpg for a 20 mile commute on mixed urban, rural and motorway roads. Going to work on a full charge it varies a lot due to traffic conditions but averages over 100 mpg. At weekends pretty much all electric to from the shops etc. On my work commute I drive in auto, weekends max e drive mostly. Mostly comfort mode as have given up on eco, haven't used sport much on work commute yet due to winter weather and darkness
If you just get in and drive it is in auto and comfort, currently my usual commute settings
Edit - should have added in cold weather pre conditioning also makes a big difference to mpg
Edited by Tonycv51 on Saturday 28th January 09:37
Edited by Tonycv51 on Saturday 28th January 09:49
Giz1972 said:
Just found this article..
http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/bmw-330...
Thanks that's an interesting read! I won't give away any spoilers LOL.http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/bmw-330...
My 330e SE is due at the dealer today, and will hopefully be delivered next Monday, Feb 6th. We received order confirmation from Alphabet on October 25th, so that will be 15 weeks if it arrives on Monday.
Orion917 said:
Thanks that's an interesting read! I won't give away any spoilers LOL.
My 330e SE is due at the dealer today, and will hopefully be delivered next Monday, Feb 6th. We received order confirmation from Alphabet on October 25th, so that will be 15 weeks if it arrives on Monday.
My delivery has just been pushed back a week to the 13th! Due to "Transport delay".My 330e SE is due at the dealer today, and will hopefully be delivered next Monday, Feb 6th. We received order confirmation from Alphabet on October 25th, so that will be 15 weeks if it arrives on Monday.
honestdude144 said:
Hi
About to order 330e Sport- and was wondering whether this has the nice corona lights as standard or whether it is an option?
"Spec says LED daytime lights included" but not sure whether this is corona or not?
Also are their any other options I should consider
As standard the SE and Sport come with halogen headlights with a small LED day time light which is kind of a solid white light in one position. About to order 330e Sport- and was wondering whether this has the nice corona lights as standard or whether it is an option?
"Spec says LED daytime lights included" but not sure whether this is corona or not?
Also are their any other options I should consider
You can add the full LED headlights.. option is about £800 I think and includes the LED day time lights Are the corona ones.
I have the full LEDs on my sport and love them
For those asking mileage questions, bear in mind this is winter so numbers will improve. I am pretty much the ideal user lots of <30km trips mixed with very long ones and not many mid distance. On long trips running on gas with regeneration I see 5.8 l/100km @100 km/h 48imp mpg@60mph. 6.4 l/100k @125km/h 44imp mpg @80mph approx. This is from a 3000km trip and a few 1000km trips.
When I am in town doing just short trips the mileage is ridiculous: 87 US mpg or 104 Imp mpg
The heater is a huge draw on electrical power and reduces range by about 25% while seat and steering wheel heaters barely make a difference so I precondition and turn off the heater for trips approaching maximum range. This screen image is with just under half a tank remaining.
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When I am in town doing just short trips the mileage is ridiculous: 87 US mpg or 104 Imp mpg
The heater is a huge draw on electrical power and reduces range by about 25% while seat and steering wheel heaters barely make a difference so I precondition and turn off the heater for trips approaching maximum range. This screen image is with just under half a tank remaining.
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|http://thumbsnap.com/4wP2HuZC[/url]And for today's lighter moment:
The distance remaining till empty indicator really means what it says. I decided to stop "at the next one" and saw it drop from 9km to 0km in a few hundred meters. I am used to all my cars having another 30-40km left at that point. Nope, not this one. The motor shuts down silently and the screen does a very good job of telling you that you are in fact an idiot. Then it pulls a trick from it's sleeve and appears to tap the 20% of the battery that is unavailable in normal driving.
It did this so seamlessly that my passenger in the front just gave me "the look" and the teenager in the back seat never even noticed.
Thank you BMW engineers for being smarter than me!
The distance remaining till empty indicator really means what it says. I decided to stop "at the next one" and saw it drop from 9km to 0km in a few hundred meters. I am used to all my cars having another 30-40km left at that point. Nope, not this one. The motor shuts down silently and the screen does a very good job of telling you that you are in fact an idiot. Then it pulls a trick from it's sleeve and appears to tap the 20% of the battery that is unavailable in normal driving.
It did this so seamlessly that my passenger in the front just gave me "the look" and the teenager in the back seat never even noticed.
Thank you BMW engineers for being smarter than me!
Tonycv51 said:
You listen to AM radio - hadn't even noticed the car had that. Don't tell me you've got HK speakers ? 
LOL. Yes I have the HK. Here in the colonies we listen to AM for the news channels. Satellite is usually the choice for long distances.Edited by Tonycv51 on Wednesday 1st February 16:26
greatwhitenorth said:
LOL. Yes I have the HK. Here in the colonies we listen to AM for the news channels. Satellite is usually the choice for long distances.
Ah I see - I did check today and my UK model does have AM as well as FM and DAB - but the AM station list I could get consisted of about 10 channels which were either pure crackle or barely audible stations even with HK awsomeness. FM was the universal choice in the UK until a few years ago , but now always listen to DAB (terrestrial) when using radio in the car which carries local and national stations - looks like you pay a subscription for satellite ?Gb908010 said:
Delivery date now 27th March,slipped 2 months!
Not happy at all
I thought yours was due March anyway?Not happy at all
I hope they are not falling behind again, mine is estimated early March and I haven't heard anything back from Zenith recently. They did confirm I had a build slot though so not sure if that help or not
i was gonna get the 330E as a co car - already have the OUtlander PHEV but was given the chance to change.
Passatt GTE - Estate a bonus but its a VW although qute nice inside
Mercedes 350E - best of the bunch but also highest price for a saloon.
Kia Optima PHEV - well its low tax but a KIa
330E lost it on not being able to fit a tow bar (was told by the dealer) so went for the c350E Sport Saloon with Factory tow bar option.
Passatt GTE - Estate a bonus but its a VW although qute nice inside
Mercedes 350E - best of the bunch but also highest price for a saloon.
Kia Optima PHEV - well its low tax but a KIa
330E lost it on not being able to fit a tow bar (was told by the dealer) so went for the c350E Sport Saloon with Factory tow bar option.
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