BMW 330e ordered...
Discussion
- SteveJJ Exactly my scenario, well put.
xjay1337 said:
Interesting.
3hours 15 to charge it on a standard plug at home. Good overall performance.
Onto a winner, BMW are I think.
if only it came with the M sport kit instead of looking like a pensioners car.
If I ever was in a situation for a company car... can't go wrong.
There is an M-Sport option. Have a google for 330e Leases - I found an M-sport for 6+23, 8000 miles for £240 - waiting to hear back on what the excess mileage charge is.3hours 15 to charge it on a standard plug at home. Good overall performance.
Onto a winner, BMW are I think.
if only it came with the M sport kit instead of looking like a pensioners car.
If I ever was in a situation for a company car... can't go wrong.
I find the ride too firm for my needs on the M-Sport. Great on twisty roads, but a pain commuting on A roads. Removing the M-Sport suspension didn't save any money and so I would have been paying for an expensive body kit.
Went with the Tanzanite blue instead on plain Sport trim
Went with the Tanzanite blue instead on plain Sport trim
Edited by SteveJJ on Tuesday 29th December 16:43
humpy999 said:
When the mainstream of company car drivers gets into PHEVs I expect the proportion that ever sees a charger will be very low too, which just makes a mockery of the whole BIK system as you're effectively swamping the new car fleet with turbo petrols for 5% BIK.
I'm not sure I follow this logic.I'm purchasing mine as a private user, and It's going to get plugged in every time the car gets parked, because it doesn't need a special charger.
I don't see why a company car user wouldn't take advantage of how cheap the "fuel" is, even more so if they are reimbursed miles.
As per the above poster, having currently got a 335i with m-sport suspension and 30 profile tyres, I am looking forward to a more supple ride on the pensioner spec sport!
From my perspective, most of the company car users at my work are sales reps who do such high daily mileages that the PHEV fuel saving is largely irrelevant compared to the BIK saving (bear in mind they're all already driving Lexuses and making a killing on the >2l petrol reimbursement rate). Consider the regular car-ignorant company car chooser, they're interested in the BIK saving. Plugging the car in for a charge daily is something they simply won't be bothered to do, IMHO.
humpy999 said:
#SteveJJ Exactly my scenario, well put.
When the mainstream of company car drivers gets into PHEVs I expect the proportion that ever sees a charger will be very low too, which just makes a mockery of the whole BIK system as you're effectively swamping the new car fleet with turbo petrols for 5% BIK.
Bik is 5% only to 5 April 2016, then 7% for a year, 9% the next year and 13% the year after...When the mainstream of company car drivers gets into PHEVs I expect the proportion that ever sees a charger will be very low too, which just makes a mockery of the whole BIK system as you're effectively swamping the new car fleet with turbo petrols for 5% BIK.
REALIST123 said:
Why would you hope that? Just because you didn't buy one?
Whenever one of us buys a car, there's always something better coming along soon after!
sounds spot on. I first was going to get the Passat GTE as I need an estate but was a little concerned the 1.4 engine might be underpowered. But since it has been delayed, the C350e became first choice, although, I was worried it was too heavy, and there is a huge lead time, and costs at Lex were not great. I was then waiting on details and availability of the A4 etron, but like the Passat VAG have gone quiet. (assume they are too busy being distracted), and then saw the 330e turn up on the Lex portal, the cost was very attractive. Convinced my wife we could do without the estate and placed the order. Now I'm worried that by the time it arrives I could order a Volvo S90 T8, or BMW will anounce a touring version (they have said they do not plan one), or even the new 5 series will be available...Whenever one of us buys a car, there's always something better coming along soon after!
humpy999 said:
From my perspective, most of the company car users at my work are sales reps who do such high daily mileages that the PHEV fuel saving is largely irrelevant compared to the BIK saving (bear in mind they're all already driving Lexuses and making a killing on the >2l petrol reimbursement rate). Consider the regular car-ignorant company car chooser, they're interested in the BIK saving. Plugging the car in for a charge daily is something they simply won't be bothered to do, IMHO.
That's exactly the situation we have at my company. the sales fleet, who don't have a choice of opting out, are running around the UK in Mitsubishi outlanders. We have two chargers at the office and then whatever they find while visiting customers. The majority are hardly seeing a charger and they complain they can't get more than 40mpg. Now with the C350e, Passat and Golf GTEs, Audi etrons and 330e about to join the office fleet, I'm not sure how often mine will get to see one of the two charging points
I'm realistic that most of the time on long journeys I will run on petrol, and maybe some regenerative breaking or engine charging, for me it is the BIK saving vs. Spec/power. A 250bhp car with 0-60 in 6 seconds and fully specced would normally carry 4 or 5 times the tax, and be well out of my reach
SteveJJ said:
That's exactly the situation we have at my company. the sales fleet, who don't have a choice of opting out, are running around the UK in Mitsubishi outlanders. We have two chargers at the office and then whatever they find while visiting customers. The majority are hardly seeing a charger and they complain they can't get more than 40mpg.
Now with the C350e, Passat and Golf GTEs, Audi etrons and 330e about to join the office fleet, I'm not sure how often mine will get to see one of the two charging points
I'm realistic that most of the time on long journeys I will run on petrol, and maybe some regenerative breaking or engine charging, for me it is the BIK saving vs. Spec/power. A 250bhp car with 0-60 in 6 seconds and fully specced would normally carry 4 or 5 times the tax, and be well out of my reach
Why are most 'not seeing a charger' - the domestic grants cover company car drivers and the company (if they are decent) cover and cost they may have or some people realise they are saving thousands in tax so don't mind paying £200-400 to have a charger installed at home?Now with the C350e, Passat and Golf GTEs, Audi etrons and 330e about to join the office fleet, I'm not sure how often mine will get to see one of the two charging points
I'm realistic that most of the time on long journeys I will run on petrol, and maybe some regenerative breaking or engine charging, for me it is the BIK saving vs. Spec/power. A 250bhp car with 0-60 in 6 seconds and fully specced would normally carry 4 or 5 times the tax, and be well out of my reach
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