BMW 330e ordered...

[Orion917]

Tonycv51 said:

Tonycv51 said:

bmwphever said:

I'm not sure that will be the problem; the car will precondition the cabin (not the battery) if not plugged in and there's sufficient battery charge. Sometimes I've forgotten to disable a departure time when I've been not plugged in, and coming to leave at that departure time the battery is down below 90% (about 80% when it was pretty chilly).
So the charging rate should only affect how charged the battery is after its preconditioned...

Orion917

Did you ever get this working ? The fan light on means the car has a pre condition timer set, and you said the instant on press works from the app i.e. Pre condition comes on and light starts flashing. Looking in the drivers guide there is a list of conditions required so have you checked those ie fan vents open etc. One is that the car date and time need to be correct ? Assumed they were sync'd to satnav but if not then check those and I guess any angles on that like app and car have am/pm wires crossed. As bmwphever says, having checked the list the problem won't be charging on low - just says must be plugged in or have a reasonable level of charge in the battery. Not sure what else I can think of

No I didn't. I've given up for now as it was the weekend. I did just go out and check the vents though! Hadn't looked TBH but they were all open. There can't be too much wrong as it works through the app with a manual start. I will have another go next as I'm not using it this week.

Cheers for the suggestions though!

Edited by Tonycv51 on Sunday 5th March 15:07

[Mcpaynter]

Tonycv51 said:

Different question - what the best way of forcing back the car to use the ICE without using save mode. There are a lot of roadworks on my commute right now which means the portion of my commute normally done at 70 on the ICE is now at 40-50 and the car tends to use the electric as speeds tend to be just below the ICE threshold. For my commute this means it's sub- optimal for the overall return journey. I've been using Sport / Auto mode if I go down the a roads, or if I stick to the motorway knocking gearbox into S mode (and taking it out if I hit stop start traffic).

Think I would actually like a 4th e-mode which is predominantly ICE but not using petrol to re-charge like Save. And really pushing the boat out on my wish list why aren't the mode buttons on the steering wheel - I have 2 unused buttons on the left hand side

Sport mode is ICE

or manual shift also.. if you don't change gear then it stays auto

[jez1987]

Tip needed: Fastest way from 0-60? I find a little lag when i put my foot straight onto the floor (same when i'm overtaking for example at speed). Anyone got any tips for reducing lag or getting up to speed ASAP

[Soov330e]

jez1987 said:

Tip needed: Fastest way from 0-60? I find a little lag when i put my foot straight onto the floor (same when i'm overtaking for example at speed). Anyone got any tips for reducing lag or getting up to speed ASAP

Mash brake, mash throttle, release brake.

Don't expect it to last long!

[jkh112]

Ignore me if what I say does not apply to the 330e, but in my outlander phev I find it helps if the charge mode is engaged prior to an expected high acceleration demand. This starts the petrol engine and so reduces the lag when the power is needed.

[Tonycv51]

jez1987 said:

Tip needed: Fastest way from 0-60? I find a little lag when i put my foot straight onto the floor (same when i'm overtaking for example at speed). Anyone got any tips for reducing lag or getting up to speed ASAP

I think earlier in the forum there was a post that for overtaking use long press on left paddle which changes down several gears ready to overtake in advance so can avoid kickdown lag (and ideally don't try this whilst running-in and/or with a cold engine....).

More generally being in Sport and pushing gear lever over to s/manual will increase throttle response, and maximise e-boost. Unless in max e-drive both will also switch on ICE if not already on and also tend to increase revs by changing down a gear if ICE already on. S/manual gear position also has ICE on even at a standstill, so will reduce lag from a standing start

Edited by Tonycv51 on Monday 6th March 15:33

Edited by Tonycv51 on Tuesday 7th March 12:57

[Tonycv51]

Mcpaynter said:

Sport mode is ICE

or manual shift also.. if you don't change gear then it stays auto

Yes but this car is a bit Jekyll and Hyde. Sport and Manual both bring in "performance" characteristics with increased fuel consumption, what is missing is an "eco" ICE setting. As bmwphever said "Save" mode is really "charge", and there isn't a proper "save" or "hold" mode e.g. for eco ICE driving at 40mph like I find myself wanting in current roadworks on my commute

I use both Sport and manual and love them both for what they do - but I dont always want or need the other characteristics that come with them to keep the ICE on

[Soov330e]

This time next week

[MaxOverdrive]

rich2000 said:

My new toy arrived on Wednesday but only just got around to posting a pic up. Love the thing so far!

M Sport+ with pro nav, comfort pack, reversing camera and active cruise.

Nice colour choice mate!

Any pics of the inside? What colour seats did you go for?

[MaxOverdrive]

Soov330e said:

This time next week

As I said before. ..jammy swine!

Look forward to seeing some pics next week !

[MaxOverdrive]

Tonycv51 said:

Can only do app right now - key thing is to set both pre condition and a timer

Is this a view of the connected drive app for the 330e or the 5 series?

I had a play with the app when I demoed the 330e some weeks back and saw no preconditioning schedule - it was just press and hold to turn preconditioning on.

[Soov330e]

MaxOverdrive said:

Soov330e said:

This time next week

As I said before. ..jammy swine!

Look forward to seeing some pics next week !

Roger that.

Will be interesting to see how I get on with the alcantara seats. I am hoping they end up a little like the old E30 M3 Sport Evo seats

[RobbieWetta]

so I have signed up to ask a question which my be viewed as controversial so I'll apologize up front for that.

I am planning to get one of these as a company car due to the big savings on company car tax, and if lets say for arguments sake I planned to ignore the electric part of the car and just run it on petrol would that have any detrimental impact of the car and the running of it!?

Thanks

Robbie

[caseys]

RobbieWetta said:

so I have signed up to ask a question which my be viewed as controversial so I'll apologize up front for that.

I am planning to get one of these as a company car due to the big savings on company car tax, and if lets say for arguments sake I planned to ignore the electric part of the car and just run it on petrol would that have any detrimental impact of the car and the running of it!?

Thanks

Robbie

Yep, as you'll be running a 320i lugging around 300kg-ish of dead weight.

When the battery gets down to 3-4% it'll start using some of the combustion engine power to recharge (to about 20%) of the battery, so the economy gets even worse than a laden 320i

If you don't also get a company fuel card, this car makes no sense if you're not charging it imho. You'll burn your BIK saving on fuel unless your company gives you a very good ppm rate.

Edit : Take into account that you can get a home-charge point installed, after gov grant (even for lease people) is £149. It'll charge the car in < 2 hours. Then your place is also ready for any future EV/PHEV vehicles you get - and quite frankly there's only going to be more available than less.

Edited by caseys on Wednesday 8th March 17:01

[Tonycv51]

MaxOverdrive said:

Is this a view of the connected drive app for the 330e or the 5 series?

I had a play with the app when I demoed the 330e some weeks back and saw no preconditioning schedule - it was just press and hold to turn preconditioning on.

330e - you may have needed to scroll down as the set timers is below the button for activate now

[Duffman786]

caseys said:

RobbieWetta said:

so I have signed up to ask a question which my be viewed as controversial so I'll apologize up front for that.

I am planning to get one of these as a company car due to the big savings on company car tax, and if lets say for arguments sake I planned to ignore the electric part of the car and just run it on petrol would that have any detrimental impact of the car and the running of it!?

Thanks

Robbie

Yep, as you'll be running a 320i lugging around 300kg-ish of dead weight.

When the battery gets down to 3-4% it'll start using some of the combustion engine power to recharge (to about 20%) of the battery, so the economy gets even worse than a laden 320i

If you don't also get a company fuel card, this car makes no sense if you're not charging it imho. You'll burn your BIK saving on fuel unless your company gives you a very good ppm rate.

Edit : Take into account that you can get a home-charge point installed, after gov grant (even for lease people) is £149. It'll charge the car in < 2 hours. Then your place is also ready for any future EV/PHEV vehicles you get - and quite frankly there's only going to be more available than less.

Edited by caseys on Wednesday 8th March 17:01

Hi. What PPM rate would you think is the minimum that is required? My company follows HMRC and thus 14p from 01/03/2017.

That equates to 37mpg. I had one of these on a test drive and just about squeezed 37mpg but didn't get a chance to give it a good run of my usual circa 150mile round trips.

What do you think? I'm probably going to order it but would be nice to not need to worry about this kind of stuff.

[Pjohnsp0407]

I've had mine since Friday and for the first few days I didn't have the means to charge as cable was just too short, I averaged around 27-30mpg tbh I was driving quite sensible but the cars battery was really low so car kept jumping into Save mode, therefore recharging and drinking more.

Managed to get outdoor socket sorted (moving shortly so not wasting the grant) and started to charge it on Monday. The difference is night and day. 99mpg plus and yesterday on a 50 mile trip got over 50mpg, today work and back zero petrol.

This car is amazing very impressed but kind of reminds me of Clarksons review of the M5 on top gear, and instead of when he pushes sports mode, replace it with full battery.

To sum up only get the car if your journeys are normally short ish, and can charge it, if not you will spend a fortune in running it.

[DragonflyTrumpeter]

caseys said:

Yep, as you'll be running a 320i lugging around 300kg-ish of dead weight.

When the battery gets down to 3-4% it'll start using some of the combustion engine power to recharge (to about 20%) of the battery, so the economy gets even worse than a laden 320i

If you don't also get a company fuel card, this car makes no sense if you're not charging it imho. You'll burn your BIK saving on fuel unless your company gives you a very good ppm rate.

Edit : Take into account that you can get a home-charge point installed, after gov grant (even for lease people) is £149. It'll charge the car in < 2 hours. Then your place is also ready for any future EV/PHEV vehicles you get - and quite frankly there's only going to be more available than less.

Edited by caseys on Wednesday 8th March 17:01

An extra 210kg but show me a 320i with 252hp lol. It is that wee bit of fuel claw back gives you the extra 65hp to have fun with as well and it drives nothing like a 320i as you know.

"Running a 320i lugging around 300kg-ish" when not plugged in is simply not true. The drivetrain, fuel consumption + power prove that, you cannot be correct on both sides of the argument

[Tony Angelino]

Tonycv51 said:

MaxOverdrive said:

Is this a view of the connected drive app for the 330e or the 5 series?

I had a play with the app when I demoed the 330e some weeks back and saw no preconditioning schedule - it was just press and hold to turn preconditioning on.

330e - you may have needed to scroll down as the set timers is below the button for activate now

I don't have the option either, mine doesn't have the timers below and you can't scroll down.

[Tony Angelino]

Pjohnsp0407 said:

I've had mine since Friday and for the first few days I didn't have the means to charge as cable was just too short, I averaged around 27-30mpg tbh I was driving quite sensible but the cars battery was really low so car kept jumping into Save mode, therefore recharging and drinking more.

Managed to get outdoor socket sorted (moving shortly so not wasting the grant) and started to charge it on Monday. The difference is night and day. 99mpg plus and yesterday on a 50 mile trip got over 50mpg, today work and back zero petrol.

This car is amazing very impressed but kind of reminds me of Clarksons review of the M5 on top gear, and instead of when he pushes sports mode, replace it with full battery.

To sum up only get the car if your journeys are normally short ish, and can charge it, if not you will spend a fortune in running it.

I have it as a company car with a fuel card for all milage and I drive it exactly like you say above. It hasn't been plugged into the mains yet, the charger hasn't been out of the bag infact. No charging point at work or home so unless work put one in then that's how i will continue.