So who is getting a Model 3?
Discussion
From the specs I can see with a probable price of £30k and likely 200 mile range it's the only decent EV proposition out there. Every other falls short. Some shorter than others.
Would having a model 3 at £30k mean the rest of the EV market is going to have to slash prices to compete? I'd think the i3 is dead in the water at its current price point.
Would having a model 3 at £30k mean the rest of the EV market is going to have to slash prices to compete? I'd think the i3 is dead in the water at its current price point.
I get about 550 miles out of £45 of diesel at the moment.
To get the same from a tesla would be about £20ish in electricity I believe?
Without the insane speed appeal of a Model S, the £30 difference isnt enough for me to consider one I dont think.
Now if its nearly (or even say 5 seconds to 60) as fast as the Sodel S for that money, thats a different story.
To get the same from a tesla would be about £20ish in electricity I believe?
Without the insane speed appeal of a Model S, the £30 difference isnt enough for me to consider one I dont think.
Now if its nearly (or even say 5 seconds to 60) as fast as the Sodel S for that money, thats a different story.
p1stonhead said:
I get about 550 miles out of £45 of diesel at the moment.
To get the same from a tesla would be about £20ish in electricity I believe?
Without the insane speed appeal of a Model S, the £30 difference isnt enough for me to consider one I dont think.
Now if its nearly (or even say 5 seconds to 60) as fast as the Sodel S for that money, thats a different story.
Whatever difference between the petrol and diesel option of your current car obviously made you opt for diesel so why not another jump for electric?To get the same from a tesla would be about £20ish in electricity I believe?
Without the insane speed appeal of a Model S, the £30 difference isnt enough for me to consider one I dont think.
Now if its nearly (or even say 5 seconds to 60) as fast as the Sodel S for that money, thats a different story.
The Ampera-e / Bolt will have similar range given those numbers.
The model III was a consideration before getting the i3. I took the view that it would be at least 12 months off production, that the first would be going to the US so we in Europe might be looking at 2018. The i3 lease is for 3 years.
I really liked the S and was very, very close to getting one but it was much larger than I needed / comfortably wanted. If they do a performance version of the III it could be a serious contender for next time.
The model III was a consideration before getting the i3. I took the view that it would be at least 12 months off production, that the first would be going to the US so we in Europe might be looking at 2018. The i3 lease is for 3 years.
I really liked the S and was very, very close to getting one but it was much larger than I needed / comfortably wanted. If they do a performance version of the III it could be a serious contender for next time.
JD said:
p1stonhead said:
I get about 550 miles out of £45 of diesel at the moment.
To get the same from a tesla would be about £20ish in electricity I believe?
Without the insane speed appeal of a Model S, the £30 difference isnt enough for me to consider one I dont think.
Now if its nearly (or even say 5 seconds to 60) as fast as the Sodel S for that money, thats a different story.
Whatever difference between the petrol and diesel option of your current car obviously made you opt for diesel so why not another jump for electric?To get the same from a tesla would be about £20ish in electricity I believe?
Without the insane speed appeal of a Model S, the £30 difference isnt enough for me to consider one I dont think.
Now if its nearly (or even say 5 seconds to 60) as fast as the Sodel S for that money, thats a different story.
I very nearly leased a Model S but went a different way in the end. Was a great thing to drive though and ridiculously fast. Lets see how the '3' comes out - you never know.
modeller said:
@3.5miles/kWh and 6p/kWh I make that less that £10 for 550m.
Add in all the environment of not using smelly diesel a no brainer!
Plus it'll be a lot more fun to drive.
Most people pay twice that for electricity and economy 7 is only possible with a capable meter, then your day rate goes up. Add in all the environment of not using smelly diesel a no brainer!
Plus it'll be a lot more fun to drive.
I'd love a tesla though encouraging to see the price is becoming a more realistic proposition.
dave_s13 said:
Oh and charging an ev is more like plugging in your phone than filling an ice car with fuel.
You just do it subconsciously after a while.
Yes but a Model S still takes bloody ages to charge at home with normal electricity - I assume the '3' will be the same. You wouldnt want it to be an only car and have something come up you absolutely had to go to a fair distance away.You just do it subconsciously after a while.
Superchargers help but I happen to live smack bang at the junction of the M25 and M23 right in the big square where none of them are!
Looks like it charges at a very similar rate to the Renault ZOE using a 32A home charger, which we have.
Never been a problem for us but you aren't wrong. Quite possible to get caught out if you need to travel further at short notice, but you should be able to make that longer journey with a short hop to a supercharger unit.
We only really do distances over 100miles for trips out and holidays though so it would suit us.
What do we think about the interior though
I'm not sure I could get used to that central tablet aberration, it looks rather challenging squeezed in there.
Never been a problem for us but you aren't wrong. Quite possible to get caught out if you need to travel further at short notice, but you should be able to make that longer journey with a short hop to a supercharger unit.
We only really do distances over 100miles for trips out and holidays though so it would suit us.
What do we think about the interior though
I'm not sure I could get used to that central tablet aberration, it looks rather challenging squeezed in there.
p1stonhead said:
Superchargers help but I happen to live smack bang at the junction of the M25 and M23 right in the big square where none of them are!
Are they just tesla supercharger points then?There must be a smattering of ecotricity fast chargers you could use.
edit - just checked zap-map - you are indeed in a bit of a rapid charger black hole!
Edited by dave_s13 on Tuesday 1st March 09:35
p1stonhead said:
Yes but a Model S still takes bloody ages to charge at home with normal electricity
It took a man in a van 1hr to fit put in our 7KW home charger. At 3.5 miler per kWh that 20 miles+ range per hour charged at home. Assuming your park up at 7pm after work and leave at 6am for work that's 10hr+ when your car can be charging. Also rember unless your doing massive miles everyday it's unlikely your will need to charge up from <10%. I've done about 7000 miles in the Leaf this year (uk average is 8000 miles per year), yet despite its limited range I only charge up twice a week when the range is less than 15 miles.Edited by gangzoom on Tuesday 1st March 11:33
p1stonhead said:
Superchargers help but I happen to live smack bang at the junction of the M25 and M23 right in the big square where none of them are!
I'm 120 miles north of Edinburgh, which is the closest one to me. I'm having a 32A charger installed in a few months and I fully expect my next car to be a Tesla.teabelly said:
From the specs I can see with a probable price of £30k and likely 200 mile range it's the only decent EV proposition out there. Every other falls short. Some shorter than others.
Would having a model 3 at £30k mean the rest of the EV market is going to have to slash prices to compete? I'd think the i3 is dead in the water at its current price point.
The model 3 is nearly 2 years from reaching the UK. By then 200 miles will be no big deal - the i3 is about to get a bigger battery which with range extended is likely to make 200 miles viable, and thats before a further year of developments.Would having a model 3 at £30k mean the rest of the EV market is going to have to slash prices to compete? I'd think the i3 is dead in the water at its current price point.
Also bear in mind that tesla, like all manufacturers so, are playing the marketing game... "the model 3, from 30k will have a range up to 200 miles" which actually means the 30k car won't do 200 miles and won't be allowed to use the super chargers, but the 45k car will..". Why would they make a car very similar to the S70 that costs 20k less?
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