So who is getting a Model 3?

[gangzoom]

EricE said:

Two videos of Tesla stores with queues of 500+ people in front of them...

https://twitter.com/BharathNA/status/7155804663932...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_adaI_xklXQ&fe...

It's crazy the number of people willing to put down a $1000 on a car they haven't seen, or even know the price off!!

If this isn't a sign EVs are ready to go 'mass market' I don't what is.

[p1stonhead]

I'm in Boston at the moment and popped to Tesla this afternoon. Decided to put a deposit down but card payment didn't go through due to me wanting it delivered in the UK and not here! Deposit system needs some smarter software! O well. I shall see how the unveiling goes. There were hundreds of deposits already made today at the Boston store though apparently.

Current Tesla owners get delivery priority too so it could be a hell of a wait for a lot of people!

Apparently someone at Tesla leaked under 4 seconds for 0-60 and 300+ mile range - presumably the top of the range model though. £45-50k?

Edited by p1stonhead on Thursday 31st March 21:53

[hornetrider]

Possible spy shot!



http://www.autoblog.com/2016/03/31/tesla-model-3-l...

[manracer]

hornetrider said:

Possible spy shot!



http://www.autoblog.com/2016/03/31/tesla-model-3-l...

Pretty sure that's an early model x prototype from before they decided to remove the grille.

[sider]

Quite a bit of info here:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-35940302

I've been mulling this one over for a while, probably 6 months or so - but recent work patterns have meant that my next car probably needs a bit of ground clearance and 4wd.

Still mulling mind! Sat here at 6.15am with my debit card looking at various news articles.

It's a bit of an ugly duckling i think but 0-60 in under 6 secs on the base model does appeal.

Still, i can't see it costing much under £30k after tax, plus 2 years is quite a long time to have £1k tied up and what's not to say that there will be ex-demo cars available in 2 and a half years for low £20k's.

I think i'm going to leave it.

Edited by sider on Friday 1st April 06:27

[gangzoom]

Ok am sold.

$35,000 starting price, minimal 215 mile range, and sub 6 second 0-60 time. All glass roof. Autopilot hardware standard.

I still cannot wait till 2019/20, and with 100k of pre-orders even before the car was shown off, it might not be till 2020 we finally get UK cars.

I will however be pre-ordering at the same time as I order a S. This should allow me to jump ahead of all those people who have ordered in the UK but don't own a Model S/X. Wife's car will be 5 years old in 2020, perfect time to replace it with a specced out 3 .

Edited by gangzoom on Friday 1st April 06:59

[JonV8V]

gangzoom said:

Ok am sold.

$35,000 starting price, minimal 215 mile range, and sub 6 second 0-60 time. All glass roof. Autopilot hardware standard.

I still cannot wait till 2019/20, and with 100k of pre-orders even before the car was shown off, it might not be till 2020 we finally get UK cars.

I will however be pre-ordering at the same time as I order a S. This should allow me to jump ahead of all those people who have ordered in the UK but don't own a Model S/X. Wife's car will be 5 years old in 2020, perfect time to replace it with a specced out 3 .
e]

Im on a rubbish connection so can't read or watch much detail other than the bbc report but some balance or questions to ask..

$35k - is that before or after the US subsidy? Tesla have also included things like congestion charging and fuel savings before now to bring the price they quite down. Great headline figures... Less great at checkout

220 mile range.. Against which standard? My 90D has a quoted range of 350 miles and I get a useable 200 from it.

I'm not knocking it but lots of people were dissatisfied with the P85D and -P90DL performance v spec (not the performance in isolation) as the cars don't deliver as promised. He usually talks about target spec as much as well proven spec but that's understandable given its 2 years from production

[AnotherClarkey]

JonV8V said:

Im on a rubbish connection so can't read or watch much detail other than the bbc report but some balance or questions to ask..

$35k - is that before or after the US subsidy? Tesla have also included things like congestion charging and fuel savings before now to bring the price they quite down. Great headline figures... Less great at checkout

220 mile range.. Against which standard? My 90D has a quoted range of 350 miles and I get a useable 200 from it.

I'm not knocking it but lots of people were dissatisfied with the P85D and -P90DL performance v spec (not the performance in isolation) as the cars don't deliver as promised. He usually talks about target spec as much as well proven spec but that's understandable given its 2 years from production

Musk has previously gone on record to say that it is $35000 before any subsidies. Just put down my deposit.

[gangzoom]

JonV8V said:

Im on a rubbish connection so can't read or watch much detail other than the bbc report but some balance or questions to ask..

$35k - is that before or after the US subsidy? Tesla have also included things like congestion charging and fuel savings before now to bring the price they quite down. Great headline figures... Less great at checkout

220 mile range.. Against which standard? My 90D has a quoted range of 350 miles and I get a useable 200 from it.

I'm not knocking it but lots of people were dissatisfied with the P85D and -P90DL performance v spec (not the performance in isolation) as the cars don't deliver as promised. He usually talks about target spec as much as well proven spec but that's understandable given its 2 years from production

$35K BEFORE any incentives.

215 mile range standard.

0-60 less than 6 seconds.

Autopliot hardware standard (but not software).

The 3 will be much better value than the S, but Musk have said from the start the profits made from S/X sales are there to fund development of the 3.

They will get to 200K+ of preorders today I reckon - Is this a record for car pre-orders?

[johnnyreggae]

gangzoom said:

They will get to 200K+ of preorders today I reckon

And that's just Tom Hartley.......

[Mike_C]

Possibly, put my deposit down for a 3 at 3:30am (when it opened) and then went back to bed, will catch up on the launch event in full later

They had taken 115,000 deposits BEFORE the live event started, an hour in they were up to >133,000 deposits and still rising! I'm sure they'll hit 150,000 no problem.

Without further details on the top model in terms of performance I'm not sure if it's the car for me yet, also the roofline looks a little high and bulbous for my liking (more like the X than S) but I know why they've done it, rear headroom in the S isn't exactly a strong point...

Depending on final specs, the 3 will either order a low/midrange option for the missus with a few options (who isn't fussed about performance, just range and comfort and will like the minimalist dash) or a fully loaded, top-spec job for myself to replace my P85+. Having said that, if the rumoured P100D Model S facelift comes along and the numbers work I might have one of those by then anyway..!

[garreth64]

I think I'm going to join the bandwagon. Putting £1k down now which is fully refundable seems a pretty safe bet to hopefully get one in a couple of years time which is about when I will be looking to change my current car. Looks are fairly good from most angles for a Saloon, love the glass roof and clean interior. Free Supercharging too. Will be interested to see how much the 'fast' ones are though.

[JonV8V]

gangzoom said:

$35K BEFORE any incentives.

215 mile range standard.

0-60 less than 6 seconds.

Autopliot hardware standard (but not software).

The 3 will be much better value than the S, but Musk have said from the start the profits made from S/X sales are there to fund development of the 3.

They will get to 200K+ of preorders today I reckon - Is this a record for car pre-orders?

Thanks for the clarification - just so you know though 215 miles in a tesla, like all cars, is going to be nowhere near that. As I say, my 350 miles rated model s gives 200 miles. 215 mile model 3 will possibly have 130 miles.

[uremaw]

Deposit down.

[x5x3]

I'm in also!

[dxg]

Looks a bit like someone's driven the front of it into a wall.

And how will the general populous make do with the speedo in the top corner of the display? I am, however, wondering what else that display, erm, displays. One of the interesting things about the current car is the amount of geekery going on with energy consumption and recovery rates on the dashboard. I hope they're not going to hide that information (now that the traditional dashboard display is gone) as they move towards the mainstream...

[dxg]

In-car footage does support my concerns:

http://www.autoblog.com/2016/04/01/tesla-model-3-t...

the speedo is rather "lost" in the visual noise of that display...

[dlockhart]

If I am right then this should cost the same amount as a leaf :
Looks like an absolute bargin.

Am I right in the following

Prices from the BBC news:
Model 3 : $35,000

Nissan leaf : $34,200 (£23,800) excl tax credits.
£29,490 in the UK including VAT but excluding government grant.

therefore Nissan leaf Price on the road : £24,500

So 25k for the Model 3?

[Mike_C]

dxg said:

Looks a bit like someone's driven the front of it into a wall.

And how will the general populous make do with the speedo in the top corner of the display? I am, however, wondering what else that display, erm, displays. One of the interesting things about the current car is the amount of geekery going on with energy consumption and recovery rates on the dashboard. I hope they're not going to hide that information (now that the traditional dashboard display is gone) as they move towards the mainstream...

It's got to be dumbed down a little bit from the S, partly so people still buy the S and partly to keep costs down.

I am sure it will have energy graphs and the like, remember these cars are still a long way from production so a lot of the software won't have been displayed, plus they need to keep people interested.

There could be a head-up display for the speed, it's not been mentioned but that would be one way of getting into line of sight without a second TFT instrument binacle, saving some valuable $ off the BOM cost...

To me, they've hit the nail on the head; the range of the basic car is still well beyond a Leaf, i3, etc., comparable to the Bolt, and for the price point is a good entry position. I've no doubt more expensive models will give more range, over 250 miles realistic I'd have thought, and like any other car, you pay for more of anything

[Richyboy]

If their past 150k deposits now, is it pointless me putting a deposit down?

This thing makes a new focus RS look like a ripoff, what an achievement. No doubt will have options that add value rather than just gimmicks.