So who is getting a Model 3?
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Placed my reservation 07:45 on Friday morning.
No emails or communication from Tesla. Phone call from my credit card company on Sunday lunchtime to say a transaction had been declined.
Tesla apparently tried the transaction before 06:00 on a Sunday from I believe the Netherlands. Clearly this is prime candidate for being blocked by automated fraud prevention. Presume lots of people in the same position as me.
Did not receive any communication from Tesla at all. Emailed them today and they called back pretty efficiently. I asked if they could just redo the transaction as credit card company now cleared them but only course of action is apparently to place another reservation.
I think this is pretty poor, both for Tesla not to be communicating to those who think they have a reservation but actually don't, and secondly to not have a procedure in place to just redo the transaction given the effect (position in queue) it has on customers.
No emails or communication from Tesla. Phone call from my credit card company on Sunday lunchtime to say a transaction had been declined.
Tesla apparently tried the transaction before 06:00 on a Sunday from I believe the Netherlands. Clearly this is prime candidate for being blocked by automated fraud prevention. Presume lots of people in the same position as me.
Did not receive any communication from Tesla at all. Emailed them today and they called back pretty efficiently. I asked if they could just redo the transaction as credit card company now cleared them but only course of action is apparently to place another reservation.
I think this is pretty poor, both for Tesla not to be communicating to those who think they have a reservation but actually don't, and secondly to not have a procedure in place to just redo the transaction given the effect (position in queue) it has on customers.
FurtiveFreddy said:
You could try creating an account on www.teslamotors.com and use the same email address you reserved with and see what happens
Thanks for that - now have a RN number (random) but it's good to see it. As I ordered from a store I am hoping for some goodies while I'm waiting for my model 3No question 3 years wait is a long time - but only a £1k risk.
Question is by then what if the leaf can do 250miles and similar speed stats but lower price? Ditto all the others. My point being what if by the time you get yours the VED will have gone up from Apr 2017 but also and key the Tesla differentiator is reduced or mitigated entirely by its competitors?
Question is by then what if the leaf can do 250miles and similar speed stats but lower price? Ditto all the others. My point being what if by the time you get yours the VED will have gone up from Apr 2017 but also and key the Tesla differentiator is reduced or mitigated entirely by its competitors?
I've driven several Leafs and they are horrid. They also lie, a lot, about the remaining range. They will say "40 miles left", you do 10 miles and they say "20 miles left" so you have to assume that 20 means 10.
But then there isn't an electric car I do like apart form the Model S - which is astonishing. Citroen C0, Twizzy, Prius, Insight. All between nasty and Meh.
I would like a go in an i8 though.
Simon
But then there isn't an electric car I do like apart form the Model S - which is astonishing. Citroen C0, Twizzy, Prius, Insight. All between nasty and Meh.
I would like a go in an i8 though.
Simon
simonrockman said:
I've driven several Leafs and they are horrid. They also lie, a lot, about the remaining range. They will say "40 miles left", you do 10 miles and they say "20 miles left" so you have to assume that 20 means 10.
But then there isn't an electric car I do like apart form the Model S - which is astonishing. Citroen C0, Twizzy, Prius, Insight. All between nasty and Meh.
I would like a go in an i8 though.
Simon
Just to be annoying.....But then there isn't an electric car I do like apart form the Model S - which is astonishing. Citroen C0, Twizzy, Prius, Insight. All between nasty and Meh.
I would like a go in an i8 though.
Simon
The Prius, Insight, and i8 aren't electric cars, they are mainly petrol cars that use an electric motor to help improve mpg.
FurtiveFreddy said:
Hmmmmm... let's think about this....
Leaf:
Model 3:
Agreed. Up until now electric cars have all had some sort of compromise (ugly, slow, poor range etc). The Telsa is good looking, fast, economical and with a decent range. Then add all the bells and whistles and its going to be hard to beat. I've ordered a model 3, and I expect I'll keep it for 10+ years.Leaf:
Model 3:
simonrockman said:
I've driven several Leafs and they are horrid. They also lie, a lot, about the remaining range. They will say "40 miles left", you do 10 miles and they say "20 miles left" so you have to assume that 20 means 10.
Simon
Tesla is no different... I charge mine, it says 255 miles, I drive for 180 miles, it's empty.Simon
I'm not sure why anybody would think tesla have are any better than any other car, if anything they're worse.. Dodgy 0-60 times, dodgy battery capacity, dodgy range. Anyone thinking they'll get 215 miles of useable range out of a model 3 needs to think again unless they drive at 45 miles an hour, in a straight line, at 15 deg c outside temperature, in the dry..
JonV8V said:
Tesla is no different... I charge mine, it says 255 miles, I drive for 180 miles, it's empty.
I'm not sure why anybody would think tesla have are any better than any other car, if anything they're worse.. Dodgy 0-60 times, dodgy battery capacity, dodgy range. Anyone thinking they'll get 215 miles of useable range out of a model 3 needs to think again unless they drive at 45 miles an hour, in a straight line, at 15 deg c outside temperature, in the dry..
I'm not sure I agree with all of that Jon - the range thing (either rated or typical), is optimistic, having said that if you put a destination into the GPS and drive at the suggested wH/mile rate, then it is spot-on. So if it says you will arrive with 40% charge, you will. If you drive harder/faster than the wH/mile figure used for the typical range calculation, you get less. My issue is that their 'typical' range is not realistic enough, rather than not being accurate. It could be better, but it's certainly no worse than any other EV, or any worse than the claimed MPG vs real-world MPG of most ICE cars either for that matter!I'm not sure why anybody would think tesla have are any better than any other car, if anything they're worse.. Dodgy 0-60 times, dodgy battery capacity, dodgy range. Anyone thinking they'll get 215 miles of useable range out of a model 3 needs to think again unless they drive at 45 miles an hour, in a straight line, at 15 deg c outside temperature, in the dry..
Re: 0-60 times, I haven't seen these disputed widely; P90D L's seem to hit 0-60 in 2.8s pretty consistently.
Welshbeef said:
Question is by then what if the leaf can do 250miles and similar speed stats but lower price? Ditto all the others. My point being what if by the time you get yours the VED will have gone up from Apr 2017 but also and key the Tesla differentiator is reduced or mitigated entirely by its competitors?
Can't you cancel the £1k deposit at any time?Mike_C said:
Got my reservations confirmed
Now, interestingly, your RN numbers begin '108' whereas mine begins with '107' and I reserved in store on the 31st, so I'm wondering if they are completely random or whether some part of it is sequential...
ETA lot's of speculation on the Tesla Motor Club Forum about the numbers.
Also found this, which might be of interest:
https://model3tracker.info/
Edited by FurtiveFreddy on Wednesday 6th April 09:30
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