So who is getting a Model 3?

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maffski

1,868 posts

159 months

Friday 3rd June 2016
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JonV8V said:
Depends on the model - the number is meant to be the battery size, so a 90 in theory is a 90 kwh battery (its not for technical reasons that piss a lot of people off, and then there is a bit of loss) but if you wanted to fill the car from a more realistic 10% to 90% then thats around 80kwh and for me £8 - and I'd get about 200 miles in summer from that.
Charging isn't 100% efficient. You'll loose some energy (10-15%?) as heat when you charge, so that will add a small amount to the cost.

jkh112

22,014 posts

158 months

Friday 3rd June 2016
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Welshbeef said:
hab1966 said:
Elon Musk has said that the supercharger wont be free for Model 3 owners unless they buy an upgrade package - Ive seen figures of 2k, dont know if thats £ or $.

https://chargedevs.com/newswire/elon-musk-supercha...
How much years average usage does £/$2k get and is it transferable to 2nd+ owners?
Tesla or Elon have not said how much SC will cost for the Model3. The £2k is being talked about because that was the price for lifetime SC on the original smaller battery size Model S. With the larger battery sizes on the model S cars the SC came included (could be seen as free!) and I suspect the Model3 will be similar with SC coming included with the larger battery options. If there is a price for just the lifetime SC then it may be £2k or it may be less to be more in proportion to the cost of the car.

Modiman46

52 posts

99 months

Friday 3rd June 2016
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maffski said:
Charging isn't 100% efficient. You'll loose some energy (10-15%?) as heat when you charge, so that will add a small amount to the cost.

The losses are not as high as you mention, more like 3-to-5% but less than you quote plus when you go down hill or in Regen it`s like putting gas back in your tank (which can`t do in an ICE ) just about all current EV`s now have Regen, saves on brake pads as well as energy costs & charge time.

dxg

8,203 posts

260 months

Saturday 4th June 2016
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Welshbeef said:
simonrockman said:
If you look at the source London website most of the chargers which are not in car parks are out of service.

Source London, in a tweet, promised to fix them "by the summer": Last summer.

Simon
And that's the crux of it. So you roll up in need of a charge and it's kaput with all other working ones full what do you do?

Who pays for the servicing of those points (I hope not ICE drivers)
I smell a business opportunity. Want to hire my van with huge generator in the back for a day?

Or, a bit more in line with ethos of the whole thing and potentially able to charge faster, want to hire my van with several battery packs in the back and a high-current connector for a few hours?

audi321

5,188 posts

213 months

Saturday 4th June 2016
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I've done my simple man maths and it seems to me that Economy 7 is the way to go?

5.1p/kwh means an equivalent (compared with a diesel car) of 300mpg? Based on £5/gallon which is what I'm paying.

Am I going wrong somewhere?

JonV8V

7,228 posts

124 months

Saturday 4th June 2016
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audi321 said:
I've done my simple man maths and it seems to me that Economy 7 is the way to go?

5.1p/kwh means an equivalent (compared with a diesel car) of 300mpg? Based on £5/gallon which is what I'm paying.

Am I going wrong somewhere?
Your daytime electricity consumption will cost approx 50% more than now.

audi321

5,188 posts

213 months

Sunday 5th June 2016
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JonV8V said:
audi321 said:
I've done my simple man maths and it seems to me that Economy 7 is the way to go?

5.1p/kwh means an equivalent (compared with a diesel car) of 300mpg? Based on £5/gallon which is what I'm paying.

Am I going wrong somewhere?
Your daytime electricity consumption will cost approx 50% more than now.
Nope. I pay 10.8p currently and the Economy 7 is 12.8p


Edited by audi321 on Sunday 5th June 10:34

modeller

445 posts

166 months

Sunday 5th June 2016
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audi321 said:
Nope. I pay 10.8p currently and the Economy 7 is 12.8p
Edited by audi321 on Sunday 5th June 10:34
Change supplier! I'm 12p day, 4.7p night. On my i3 works out at 1p/mile (car's averaging 4.6miles/kWh)

Edited by modeller on Sunday 5th June 22:52

audi321

5,188 posts

213 months

Monday 6th June 2016
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modeller said:
Change supplier! I'm 12p day, 4.7p night. On my i3 works out at 1p/mile (car's averaging 4.6miles/kWh)
Who is that with? Is it still available as I looked on uswitch and that was the best available

audi321

5,188 posts

213 months

Monday 6th June 2016
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modeller said:
On my i3 works out at 1p/mile
That is just absolutely amazing!

Modiman46

52 posts

99 months

Monday 6th June 2016
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audi321 said:
That is just absolutely amazing!
You have got the message YES " electric cars are amazing " !
No NO2 or fumes, fantastic drive, No Tax, cheap to run and maintain.

modeller

445 posts

166 months

Tuesday 7th June 2016
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audi321 said:
Who is that with? Is it still available as I looked on uswitch and that was the best available
Scottish Power. Their Online Fix Tarrif April 2017. June 2017 is similar.
BTW, GB Energy were offering 8p/day 4p/night via a bulk buy I saw recently.

jkh112

22,014 posts

158 months

Wednesday 8th June 2016
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I managed to get my reservation number from the hidden code in the MyTesla page before Tesla removed the data. My number is 507xxx and I reserved lunchtime on the 1 April.
Did anyone else manage to get their number?

modeller

445 posts

166 months

Wednesday 8th June 2016
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jkh112 said:
I managed to get my reservation number from the hidden code in the MyTesla page before Tesla removed the data. My number is 507xxx and I reserved lunchtime on the 1 April.
Did anyone else manage to get their number?
658xxx - made on the 5th I think.

So, let's say 2% of orders are UK bound, then you're 3000 ahead of me. If they're at 500K units/year , then that's < 3 days production :-) Not so bad.

jkh112

22,014 posts

158 months

Wednesday 8th June 2016
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I think the UK reservations are such a small quantity that they will all be made in one rhd batch.

bqf

2,226 posts

171 months

Wednesday 6th July 2016
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I just reserved one....although I suspect it'll be 2 years before it'll arrive. Bugger.

IN51GHT

8,779 posts

210 months

Tuesday 19th July 2016
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I have, I'll be speccing the largest battery & most powerful motors I can

Tonsko

6,299 posts

215 months

Tuesday 2nd August 2016
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Received a strange piece of mail today - a big envelope with a picture of a Tesla 3, and a thank you note from Musk. Anyone else? Slightly curious as to why.

FurtiveFreddy

8,577 posts

237 months

Tuesday 2nd August 2016
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Tonsko said:
Received a strange piece of mail today - a big envelope with a picture of a Tesla 3, and a thank you note from Musk. Anyone else? Slightly curious as to why.
This is a thankyou gift which was sent to everyone who went to their Tesla store and reserved one there rather than going on line the next day. Mine hasn't arrived yet, but I'm hopeful now you've got yours!

I'd recommend registering on the Tesla Motors Club forum as you'll pick up a load of useful information while you're waiting...


IN51GHT

8,779 posts

210 months

Wednesday 3rd August 2016
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Mine arrived yesterday too.