Tesla Model 3 revealed
Discussion
jkh112 said:
So it is the 18 months before they come to the UK you think is wrong, rather than you are getting yours well ahead of others in the UK.
If you put in a reservation for one now, you'd be looking at more like 2 years than 18 months.I expect demonstrators to be in the UK before the end of this year, maybe even a few deliveries as well. I wouldn't be surprised if I don't see mine before 2018, but the Model 3 is a big deal for Musk so I reckon they'll pull out all the stops to meet their targets with this one.
I wonder if they did some of the pre-orders as they did the model-S.
It seemed just as the model-S was being announced, prior to pre-orders opening, Musk decided that anyone who got him a check for the car got in as an early pre-order:
There's plenty of Model-X driving around though. I admit they are very very nice, they still look small in comparison to some US SUVs though!
It seemed just as the model-S was being announced, prior to pre-orders opening, Musk decided that anyone who got him a check for the car got in as an early pre-order:
Ashlee Vance said:
Musk has developed an unconventional policy to determine the order in which cars are sold. When a new car is announced and its price is set, a race begins in which the first person to hand Musk a check gets the first car. With the Model S, Steve Jurvetson, a Tesla board member, had a check at the ready in his wallet and slid it across the table to Musk after spying details on the Model S in a packet of board meeting notes.
Othmer caught a WIRED story about a planned second version of the Roadster and emailed Musk right away. "He said, 'Okay, I will sell it to you, but you have to pay two hundred thousand dollars right now.'" Othmer agreed, and Tesla had him come to the company's headquarters on a Sunday to sign some paperwork, acknowledging the price of the car and the fact that the company didn't quite know when it would arrive or what its specifications would be. "My guess is that it will be the fastest car on the road," Othmer said. "It'll be four-wheel drive. It's going to be insane. And I don't really think that will be the real price. I just don't think that Elon wanted me to buy it."
I've been in Palo Alto for the last few of weeks hoping to spot a Model-3, but there was nothing at the bits you can see of the factory, nor the HQ, nor the downtown SF Tesla dealership had one. Musk has confirmed a few details over twitter, like the Model-3 won't have a 100kWh battery - predominantly because of weight. I guess the battery packs suffer the same tyranny as the rocket equation.Othmer caught a WIRED story about a planned second version of the Roadster and emailed Musk right away. "He said, 'Okay, I will sell it to you, but you have to pay two hundred thousand dollars right now.'" Othmer agreed, and Tesla had him come to the company's headquarters on a Sunday to sign some paperwork, acknowledging the price of the car and the fact that the company didn't quite know when it would arrive or what its specifications would be. "My guess is that it will be the fastest car on the road," Othmer said. "It'll be four-wheel drive. It's going to be insane. And I don't really think that will be the real price. I just don't think that Elon wanted me to buy it."
There's plenty of Model-X driving around though. I admit they are very very nice, they still look small in comparison to some US SUVs though!
FurtiveFreddy said:
jkh112 said:
So it is the 18 months before they come to the UK you think is wrong, rather than you are getting yours well ahead of others in the UK.
If you put in a reservation for one now, you'd be looking at more like 2 years than 18 months.I expect demonstrators to be in the UK before the end of this year, maybe even a few deliveries as well. I wouldn't be surprised if I don't see mine before 2018, but the Model 3 is a big deal for Musk so I reckon they'll pull out all the stops to meet their targets with this one.
They are only this month installing tooling to allow them to build the Model 3
https://electrek.co/2017/02/08/tesla-model-3-fremo...
p1stonhead said:
I'd be very surprised if any were here in 18 months.
They are only this month installing tooling to allow them to build the Model 3
https://electrek.co/2017/02/08/tesla-model-3-fremo...
Yep, on schedule to get some pre-production cars built so they can start production in Q3 as planned.They are only this month installing tooling to allow them to build the Model 3
https://electrek.co/2017/02/08/tesla-model-3-fremo...
I fully realise I'll be behind a lot of U.S. reservations, but I'm a lot closer to reservation #1 than #400,000.
If I had to put money on it, I'd say my car will be sitting on my driveway no more than 12 months from today.
FurtiveFreddy said:
p1stonhead said:
I'd be very surprised if any were here in 18 months.
They are only this month installing tooling to allow them to build the Model 3
https://electrek.co/2017/02/08/tesla-model-3-fremo...
Yep, on schedule to get some pre-production cars built so they can start production in Q3 as planned.They are only this month installing tooling to allow them to build the Model 3
https://electrek.co/2017/02/08/tesla-model-3-fremo...
I fully realise I'll be behind a lot of U.S. reservations, but I'm a lot closer to reservation #1 than #400,000.
If I had to put money on it, I'd say my car will be sitting on my driveway no more than 12 months from today.
Gutted and didn't bother in the end because by the time I got home to the Uk I was 2 weeks late. If it had worked, I could've potentially had one of the first in the country I reckon.
Guvernator said:
Sorry does nothing for me, just looks like a melted Focus. Plus it's at least 18 months away in the UK.
Fair enough, each to their own.I think it looks great, modern but without trying too hard to shout that it is an EV.
I like the flat nose, and i believe it is done to make it more aerodynamically efficient so it's not just styling, though I guess anything could change at the final reveal.
FurtiveFreddy said:
If I had to put money on it, I'd say my car will be sitting on my driveway no more than 12 months from today.
DELETED: Comment made by a member who's account has been deleted.£40k gets a lot more car than £30k at other manufacturers.
p1stonhead said:
I'm sort of glad my reservation didn't go through (although it's refundable) as I agree. I would be astounded if this car can be bought much under £40k here and that is in a whole different segment to a £30k car in my book.
£40k gets a lot more car than £30k at other manufacturers.
Like a Mustang. Similar build quality and slightly better range. £40k gets a lot more car than £30k at other manufacturers.
garreth64 said:
Guvernator said:
Sorry does nothing for me, just looks like a melted Focus. Plus it's at least 18 months away in the UK.
Fair enough, each to their own.I think it looks great, modern but without trying too hard to shout that it is an EV.
I like the flat nose, and i believe it is done to make it more aerodynamically efficient so it's not just styling, though I guess anything could change at the final reveal.
They have made a new car company, and its their second attempt at making a car! (first one was a lotus)
Compared to some other manufacturers second attempts, it's far superior.
Oh and they develped the model S at a fraction of the cost of their competitors - $150 million vs $800million +
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Comparing Tesla in 2012 to Tesla now is ridiculous. Happy to place a small wager on your 2019 prediction being total nonsense. As for the cost, it could go either way. Exchange rates depend on lots of other stuff Tesla has no control over. I wouldn't be surprised if the cost of a 3 ranges from £35k-£70k depending on spec.
This thread will presumably still be here when the first UK 3s arrive, so we can always check back in then and trade 'told-you-sos'
jamoor said:
Credit where credit's due.
They have made a new car company, and its their second attempt at making a car! (first one was a lotus)
Compared to some other manufacturers second attempts, it's far superior.
Oh and they develped the model S at a fraction of the cost of their competitors - $150 million vs $800million +
$150M sounds more like what was spent on the roadster.They have made a new car company, and its their second attempt at making a car! (first one was a lotus)
Compared to some other manufacturers second attempts, it's far superior.
Oh and they develped the model S at a fraction of the cost of their competitors - $150 million vs $800million +
Model S sucked up most of the $500M dept. of energy loan, plus there was significant other private investment in Tesla at the time. I would expect it came in quite expensive at the end of the day. Not exactly surprising really for a new factory, mass producing something pretty advanced.
Don't get me wrong. I'm following Tesla with real interest. I was also lucky enough to work on Model S back in 2007.
z06tim said:
I agree RHD will be some time behind "Job 1". 18 months to two years behind would be my guess too.
You may be right, but I would expect the UK to be seeing cars within 12 months of US deliveries.The Tesla website says:
Starting price in USD. Local pricing will be announced in 2017.
Production begins mid 2017.
Delivery estimate for new reservations is mid 2018 or later.
That implies existing reservations should be delivered in 2018.
A misconception is that LHD and RHD Teslas are manufactured in batches and RHD is always last to be made.
Visitors to Fremont have reported that RHD and LHD are being assembled at the same time on the same production lines, so although there is no doubt that early U.S. orders will be fulfilled first (so Tesla can quickly sort early production snags) I don't believe UK and other RHD orders are going to be delivered dead last.
Visitors to Fremont have reported that RHD and LHD are being assembled at the same time on the same production lines, so although there is no doubt that early U.S. orders will be fulfilled first (so Tesla can quickly sort early production snags) I don't believe UK and other RHD orders are going to be delivered dead last.
Running RHD and LHD down the same line is commonplace in the industry, in fact much more model differentiation is possible.
It's just normal for smaller volume markets to hit production later, as things like homologation for that market and the ramp-up to hit demand in the domestic market take time.
It's just normal for smaller volume markets to hit production later, as things like homologation for that market and the ramp-up to hit demand in the domestic market take time.
garreth64 said:
Guvernator said:
Sorry does nothing for me, just looks like a melted Focus. Plus it's at least 18 months away in the UK.
Fair enough, each to their own.I think it looks great, modern but without trying too hard to shout that it is an EV.
I like the flat nose, and i believe it is done to make it more aerodynamically efficient so it's not just styling, though I guess anything could change at the final reveal.
Could they not have given it a grill of some sort ? It looks like an airfix kit where somebody has forgotten to break the front out of it and fit the grill.
But at least it looks like a car and a reasonably pleasant one if not exactly overflowing with style. Will be interesting to see what the ex-Volvo interior designer comes up with - how great would a Tesla be with a Volvo S90 interior ? Even with a short range that would be a very tempting car.
George111 said:
garreth64 said:
Guvernator said:
Sorry does nothing for me, just looks like a melted Focus. Plus it's at least 18 months away in the UK.
Fair enough, each to their own.I think it looks great, modern but without trying too hard to shout that it is an EV.
I like the flat nose, and i believe it is done to make it more aerodynamically efficient so it's not just styling, though I guess anything could change at the final reveal.
Could they not have given it a grill of some sort ? It looks like an airfix kit where somebody has forgotten to break the front out of it and fit the grill.
But at least it looks like a car and a reasonably pleasant one if not exactly overflowing with style. Will be interesting to see what the ex-Volvo interior designer comes up with - how great would a Tesla be with a Volvo S90 interior ? Even with a short range that would be a very tempting car.
The new S face looks much sleeker, and it was the first think my wife commented on when see saw it in the flesh.it looks different without being too different!
z06tim said:
Running RHD and LHD down the same line is commonplace in the industry, in fact much more model differentiation is possible.
It's just normal for smaller volume markets to hit production later, as things like homologation for that market and the ramp-up to hit demand in the domestic market take time.
Mazda take this a step further.It's just normal for smaller volume markets to hit production later, as things like homologation for that market and the ramp-up to hit demand in the domestic market take time.
A mixture of vehicles on a single assembly line.
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