Tesla Model 3 revealed

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Innowaybored

896 posts

107 months

Friday 1st April 2016
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garreth64 said:
I did the same at Solihull first thing this morning and no email yet, though I can see the money is pending on my card.

I think it can take 24 hours or so and guessing they are busy today.

Talking to the guy at the store, they have taken quite a fe deposits at the Gadget Show at the NEC as well, so maybe that includes the 35.
He was a really nice guy wasn't he? He is trying to get a job with them in the states. He had just the right vibe that Tesla need to maintain

BigBen

11,644 posts

230 months

Friday 1st April 2016
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garreth64 said:
V8LM said:
Noticeable that they ask for a card and no PayPal option.
American Company and wouldn't take American Express either, so I didn't get my 1% cash back :-(
I used my Amex online and it didn't tell me it hadn't worked. Will see what happens re getting an email

p1stonhead

25,549 posts

167 months

Friday 1st April 2016
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Musk has already said publicly it would be £30k here for the base model not £35k. Hope he can stick to it.

Benbay001

5,797 posts

157 months

Friday 1st April 2016
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EVs are the start of the slippery slope for those of us who like our cars for leisure.
Road charging and then driverless cars/automated speed enforcement.

Innevitable though, if we continue to persue carbon emission goals.

va1o

16,032 posts

207 months

Friday 1st April 2016
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I love the look of it, Teslas are definitely my favourite cars right now outside Ze Germans. Well and truly the future and at a great price (although does feel like the UK is getting ripped off slightly). Would swap my current duo (Golf GTD and Audi S5 V8) for this for sure. Tempted to pre-order but seems a bit of a gamble as its 2-years away and not sure yet how I'd finance the rest of the balance hehe

unsprung

5,467 posts

124 months

Friday 1st April 2016
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Regarding the production of RHD Tesla cars... Imagine how much more elegant (and cost-efficient) this is to produce, relative to ICE cars.

In the Tesla Model 3, the interior is rather universal -- what with the user experience dominated by a centre-mounted digital screen instead of via physical knobs, levers, gauges, etc. which must be moulded separately, sub-assembled, and installed into the dashboard.

Also... There will be none of the, "Oooh, swapping the steering shaft to the right side causes a conflict with the right-side exhaust manifold* (which will have to be re-designed and will receive a different part number) along with swapping the brake master cylinder, etc."

. *See the sixth-generation Mustang in RHD, which because of RHD being an afterthought, is down slightly on HP relative to LHD models.






DoubleD

22,154 posts

108 months

Friday 1st April 2016
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A bland looking £30k+ saloon is not a game changer.

sidesauce

2,476 posts

218 months

Friday 1st April 2016
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George111 said:
Is this an elaborate April fools joke ?

You still can not refuel it at my local Sainsbury's, Tesco or even - shock horror - Waitrose !
I could refuel one at my local Waitrose - we have a couple charge points in the car park here.

qube_TA

8,402 posts

245 months

Friday 1st April 2016
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I'm probably wrong but have to look after a lot of UPS systems for large data centres and comms rooms which need stacks of batteries OK they're mostly lead-acid types but these will likely behave in a similar way.

To get the best life and capacity out of a battery they're quite picky on environmental conditions so I have to use small DX cooling systems to keep them at a fixed 21 degrees. My understanding is that on EV's they use part of the cars environmental/AC system to regulate the temperature of the batteries and if the car is parked up then this system will click in and out as required to stop your battery from getting hot or cold.

It doesn't matter too much on a laptop or phone where the capacity of the battery degrades over time as you can buy a new one, looking after your batteries on your car is going to be quite spendy. 200 miles on a charge when new, what are they like in 3 years time?

Does this therefore mean that if you're not driving the car then it must be plugged in to run the AC otherwise if you charge the car up at the local power point then park it up outside your apartment you could find it's dead when you come to use it. And if you've got a dead EV and no plug what do you do, you can't really pour in a jerry can of electricity to get you to your nearest power point.

I think leasing an EV or at least the batteries if you've somewhere to plug the car in makes some sense but the fuel-cell approach makes more sense to me as they'll behave more like a regular ICE where you can just top the thing up with a shot of H if it's run out of gas.


The Vambo

6,643 posts

141 months

Friday 1st April 2016
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DoubleD said:
A bland looking £30k+ saloon is not a game changer.
Who are you trying to convince?

JetskiJezz

662 posts

136 months

Friday 1st April 2016
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DoubleD said:
A bland looking £30k+ saloon is not a game changer.
Bland looking?

I really don't think it's the looks of the car the reason it's a game changer - surely it's the overall package within a set budget topped with a different driving experience.

EricE

1,945 posts

129 months

Friday 1st April 2016
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Elon Musk said:
Model 3 orders at 180,000 in 24 hours. Selling price w avg option mix prob $42k, so ~$7.5B in a day. Future of electric cars looking bright!
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/715934657720639488

98elise

26,617 posts

161 months

Friday 1st April 2016
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DoubleD said:
A bland looking £30k+ saloon is not a game changer.
It is when nearly 200,000 people place an order in the first 24 hours.


DoubleD

22,154 posts

108 months

Friday 1st April 2016
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98elise said:
DoubleD said:
A bland looking £30k+ saloon is not a game changer.
It is when nearly 200,000 people place an order in the first 24 hours.
200,000 people ordering one does not make it a game changer.

EricE

1,945 posts

129 months

Friday 1st April 2016
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More tweets...

"Thought it would slow way down today, but Model 3 order count is now at 198k. Recommend ordering soon, as the wait time is growing rapidly."
"Definitely going to need to rethink production planning..."


https://twitter.com/elonmusk/

unsprung

5,467 posts

124 months

Friday 1st April 2016
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DoubleD said:
A bland looking £30k+ saloon is not a game changer.
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STATLER: "A bland looking £30K saloon is not a game changer."

WALDORF: "I haven't even changed my underwear in years."

[SFX] AUDIENCE LAUGHTER


Innowaybored

896 posts

107 months

Friday 1st April 2016
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DoubleD said:
I can't afford £30k+
fixed that for

Galsia

2,167 posts

190 months

Friday 1st April 2016
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Needs grille...


OwenK

3,472 posts

195 months

Friday 1st April 2016
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qube_TA said:
I'm probably wrong but have to look after a lot of UPS systems for large data centres and comms rooms which need stacks of batteries OK they're mostly lead-acid types but these will likely behave in a similar way.

To get the best life and capacity out of a battery they're quite picky on environmental conditions so I have to use small DX cooling systems to keep them at a fixed 21 degrees. My understanding is that on EV's they use part of the cars environmental/AC system to regulate the temperature of the batteries and if the car is parked up then this system will click in and out as required to stop your battery from getting hot or cold.

It doesn't matter too much on a laptop or phone where the capacity of the battery degrades over time as you can buy a new one, looking after your batteries on your car is going to be quite spendy. 200 miles on a charge when new, what are they like in 3 years time?

Does this therefore mean that if you're not driving the car then it must be plugged in to run the AC otherwise if you charge the car up at the local power point then park it up outside your apartment you could find it's dead when you come to use it. And if you've got a dead EV and no plug what do you do, you can't really pour in a jerry can of electricity to get you to your nearest power point.

I think leasing an EV or at least the batteries if you've somewhere to plug the car in makes some sense but the fuel-cell approach makes more sense to me as they'll behave more like a regular ICE where you can just top the thing up with a shot of H if it's run out of gas.
I don't know the answer off the top of my head, but it's not like this is the first electric car. This is the fourth car from a manufacturer that exclusively sells electric!

98elise

26,617 posts

161 months

Friday 1st April 2016
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DoubleD said:
98elise said:
DoubleD said:
A bland looking £30k+ saloon is not a game changer.
It is when nearly 200,000 people place an order in the first 24 hours.
200,000 people ordering one does not make it a game changer.
I suspect every major car company got a wake up call today. BMW sell about 20k i3's,, and about 400k 3 series per year globally. Tesla have orders for 200k in a day. Thats a game changer in my eyes.