Tesla - seems to be the time..

[gangzoom]

Mike_C said:

Also, the premium interior pack is worth it - the ambient lighting really ups the luxury feel at night, but more than that you get the remote open/close tailgate option which is well worth it. Finally, no Autopilot is madness IMO - anyone looking at a Tesla in the future will expect it to have AP, so this could really hit resale values. Plus, it is utterly awesome

I had both options ticked but in the end decided against both. Autopilot I personally see as pointless, 90% of my driving is on inner city roads, I just wouldn't ever use it and in any case can be activated later if needed. Premium interior it was considered, but again I decided for me it wasn't worth it.

I even had the 90D option ticked at one point, but I have one eye on the M3. We know the M3 will be better value than the S purely based on much cheaper battery costs. I don't think we'll see it in the UK till 2019/2020, which would be perfect for us as the wife's car will be coming up to 5 years old than. So instead of spending another £15K+ on the S, that money is now going into the M3 fund, so when the time is right we can swap the combustion car for a fully loaded 'P' version of the M3. Given the top spec of the M3 will probably be around £50-60K, I've already identified 30% of the funds, with another 4-5 years to save up for the reminder.

Exciting times ahead for us 'Piston' heads

Edited by gangzoom on Thursday 7th July 14:11

[Mike_C]

That's fair enough and a good way of thinking! Although I use AP in stop-start inner city traffic all the time and it's brilliant...

[JonV8V]

Base M3 = 35k
Super charger enabled +2k
Bigger battery +10k
P model +10k
AP +2k
Bigger wheels +3k
Next gen seats +2k
Multicoat paint +1k
Hifi +2k
premium interior +2k

Thats 74k and all based on cheaper option prices than the current model S

A base model S today is something like 53k, a top spec is 121k - so I don't think its unrealistic to expect the top spec M3 to be over twice the entry 35k, assuming the falling pound has not already buggered up that price.

[gangzoom]

^^ Don't forget the biggest thing....When will Tesla will actually be able to mass produce the thing??? Given they are struggling to hit 70,000 cars this year, who knows when the first RHD cars will arrive. It's one of the reasons why I've not bothered putting down a £1K deposit on a M3 now.

The current £4.5K EV grant will be reviewed again in March 2018, add in the £310/year VED tax for any car over £40K come next year, I suspect many people hoping to pick up a cut price M3 will be very disappointed. A used Model S will likely be the cheapest way into a 200 mile range EV.

[theaxe]

NUMMI used to kick out 6000 cars a week back in the 2000s and imagine Tesla are well automated. I think the problem is going to be in the supply chain.

[Bee_Jay]

theaxe said:

BTW. I'm pretty sure I can skip the 2 week cooling off period so now I've decided on the headlining I might do that.

They don't let you do that any more, due to distance selling regs. You have to wait the full 2 weeks...

[theaxe]

Bee_Jay said:

theaxe said:

BTW. I'm pretty sure I can skip the 2 week cooling off period so now I've decided on the headlining I might do that.

They don't let you do that any more, due to distance selling regs. You have to wait the full 2 weeks...

Here's a snip from my agreement:



Seems that I can do it... that said I'm now wavering on the colour / uprated sound so I think I'll use the full 2 weeks.

[Bee_Jay]

theaxe said:

Bee_Jay said:

theaxe said:

BTW. I'm pretty sure I can skip the 2 week cooling off period so now I've decided on the headlining I might do that.

They don't let you do that any more, due to distance selling regs. You have to wait the full 2 weeks...

Here's a snip from my agreement:



Seems that I can do it... that said I'm now wavering on the colour / uprated sound so I think I'll use the full 2 weeks.

Yup, mine said same (just checked), but they won't when you try (I did) because they aren't allowed to any more under UK rules... Still, it goes by damn quick anyway!

[theaxe]

Bee_Jay said:

Yup, mine said same (just checked), but they won't when you try (I did) because they aren't allowed to any more under UK rules... Still, it goes by damn quick anyway!

Ah, fair enough. As you say it goes quickly.. :-)

[theaxe]

So interestingly I logged in today to make yet another change to my spec and I noticed a new 'Confirm' button and I got this:



Now all confirmed.. :-)

[Bee_Jay]

Wouldn't let me do that with the X - strange...

[gangzoom]

I've pushed my delivery date to Feb 2017, apparently autopilot 2.0 hardware is just around the corner....at the same time I just want the car ASAP :S

[theaxe]

I now have a VIN! I did think about the AP 2.0 hardware but with that 'what' and the 'when' so uncertain I didn't want to put my plans on hold. Plus inevitably once AP 2.0 comes out there'll be some new component just over the horizon.

Edited by theaxe on Monday 11th July 19:48

[theaxe]

So here's an observation.. on the config page it still quotes deliveries in September as it did when I spec'd my car:


... but if I check on my order it was originally October-November but has now slipped again:


I don't mind either way but I'm curious about the delay and why the configurator is so optimistic.

[JonV8V]

theaxe said:

So here's an observation.. on the config page it still quotes deliveries in September as it did when I spec'd my car:


... but if I check on my order it was originally October-November but has now slipped again:


I don't mind either way but I'm curious about the delay and why the configurator is so optimistic.

Is that for the same model? It's been known to vary for different battery packs

But I suspect this has more to do with Tesla time. The 'coming soon' is about a year in the uk, just look at service centre promises, the wait for a service is 2 months at the moment, the promised new service centres like Edinburgh that still aren't there, the super charger roll out, how long it was before AP was actually launched, how long it's taking for model X deliveries etc. It's why some of us laugh at the model 3 delivery timescales quoted.

The good news is I very much doubt it will slip past December. End of quarter deliveries take the highest priority to the detriment of just about everything else.

[gangzoom]

Anyone tempted by the now cheaper 60D Model X??

[orbit123]

How have you all found the Tesla local centres? I've so far found the local (Scotland) pre-sales service to be poor. Waited weeks on en email reply about a test drive and only got a reply after a lot of chasing (busy doing events apparently) - lots of read receipts, just seemed to be ignored. Calls to local centre at that time diverted to a voicemail at Tesla Europe.
Made contact again a few days back and again no-one has come back to me. Not normally a great sign in business.

Is this normal?

[JonV8V]

orbit123 said:

How have you all found the Tesla local centres? I've so far found the local (Scotland) pre-sales service to be poor. Waited weeks on en email reply about a test drive and only got a reply after a lot of chasing (busy doing events apparently) - lots of read receipts, just seemed to be ignored. Calls to local centre at that time diverted to a voicemail at Tesla Europe.
Made contact again a few days back and again no-one has come back to me. Not normally a great sign in business.

Is this normal?

It's the model you get when nobody is a "sales person" and nobody is measured on sales.

Try booking a service or warranty issue resolved - waits of up several weeks (even months) in not uncommon unless the car is off the road in which case you're talking days.

[theaxe]

I've mostly been dealing with the team at Gatwick, so far they've been excellent. Had a great visit and test drive and since my order went in the delivery manager has responded to all my queries within minutes (even at weekends/evenings).

By way of an update the car went into build last week and 5 days later it's now 'in transit'... now the wait really begins.

[orbit123]

It's really putting me off - not sure if some kind of arrogance as sales are doing well - "car sells itself" etc.
Maybe unreasonable but I'd generally expect responses within a couple of days - pretty hopeless to agree anything with sporadic replies.