what to replace the Zoe with?

what to replace the Zoe with?

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Heathwood

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2,530 posts

202 months

Monday 12th September 2016
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Hi guys,

Quite a few of us picked up a Zoe on silly PCP deals in late 2014. Many were on 2 year deals, as ours is, so are due to go back in a few months time.

We're starting to think about a replacement and struggling a little. The main contender is a Yeti as we could do with a more more space. So, out of curiosity, what are you folk going to do come chop in time? I assume nobody is planning on purchasing as the balloon is around double the value of the car (or triple based on WBAC quotes!).


HTP99

22,531 posts

140 months

Monday 12th September 2016
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Renault are going to have hundreds of these appearing over the next few months, all worth a significant sum less than their MFV's.

At a dealer conference recently it was suggested to us dealers that we do the right thing by Renault and take them back in as part exchanges as opposed telling people to hand them back; err yeahh right we'll take the £3k hit, not you!!

ZOE sales for us have stalled somewhat, the revised (read substantially lower) MFV figures are making them not so much of a bargain on PCP, as they once were.

Heathwood

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2,530 posts

202 months

Monday 12th September 2016
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Yeah, the 2014 deals never made any financial sense to anyone but the customer, but I had assumed that Renault just wanted exposure / presence of the car on the road to increase their profile in the electric car market. Renault are simply going to have to take the hit on them; Renault finance set the GFV after all.

HTP99

22,531 posts

140 months

Monday 12th September 2016
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Heathwood said:
Yeah, the 2014 deals never made any financial sense to anyone but the customer, but I had assumed that Renault just wanted exposure / presence of the car on the road to increase their profile in the electric car market. Renault are simply going to have to take the hit on them; Renault finance set the GFV after all.
I believe, in the UK at least, Renault lose money on every ZOE; electric has to work for Renault so yes it was to get them out there and to get exposure, they are in electric for the long haul; short term hurt for long term gain.

ZOE has also got people through the door that normally wouldn't take a second glance at Renault, I have sold them to extremely wealthy people, ok in the future they probably won't buy a Renault for themselves, however if they have had a positive experience with a ZOE, they may well look at a Twingo or Clio for their kids.

It'll be interesting to see what is next for electric with Renault.

smn159

12,626 posts

217 months

Monday 12th September 2016
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Heathwood said:
Hi guys,

Quite a few of us picked up a Zoe on silly PCP deals in late 2014. Many were on 2 year deals, as ours is, so are due to go back in a few months time.

We're starting to think about a replacement and struggling a little. The main contender is a Yeti as we could do with a more more space. So, out of curiosity, what are you folk going to do come chop in time? I assume nobody is planning on purchasing as the balloon is around double the value of the car (or triple based on WBAC quotes!).
I'm in the same position in that mine goes back in January. I've enjoyed the experience and would have another EV if I could get a similarly good PCP deal. Have contemplated buying another Zoe or a Leaf outright, but half fancy a bit of a change.

I might go down the shed route and get a cheap Volvo V70 for a while as it's a bit more dog and bike friendly that the Zoe has been. I'll definitely miss it though.

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 12th September 2016
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I had one too, still have

I am waiting on the arrival of an i3 at a better rate than another Zoe would be, but not as good as this Zoe deal was

ooo000ooo

2,529 posts

194 months

Tuesday 13th September 2016
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Is there any point in asking Renault to extend the contract for another year? IIRC when I got mine it was a 2 year lease on the car but a 3 year lease on the battery for some weird reason?

Phunk

1,975 posts

171 months

Tuesday 13th September 2016
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Rumours are a new longer range Zoe is coming out with DC rapid charging instead of that stupid unreliable chameleon system.

DSLiverpool

14,733 posts

202 months

Tuesday 13th September 2016
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Merc B250 is rare but appears on the lease thread at about £4200 over 2 years, better car etc

We're ok till March and things may have changed by then.

jimsco

54 posts

239 months

Wednesday 14th September 2016
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DSLiverpool said:
Merc B250 is rare but appears on the lease thread at about £4200 over 2 years, better car etc

We're ok till March and things may have changed by then.
Thanks to DSLiverpool’s post on another thread I’ve just ordered a B250e. Works out about the same leasing the Mercedes as my Leaf - £4607 over two years.

Shame it hasn't got rapid charging but I fancied something different after having two Leafs

onedsla

1,114 posts

256 months

Wednesday 14th September 2016
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jimsco said:
Thanks to DSLiverpool’s post on another thread I’ve just ordered a B250e. Works out about the same leasing the Mercedes as my Leaf - £4607 over two years.

Shame it hasn't got rapid charging but I fancied something different after having two Leafs
Hi Jimsco, when are you expecting delivery on the Merc? My Leaf didn't arrive until March, so too early for me to 'pull' any 'triggers' on a lease, but also keen not to avoid a good deal and end up paying £1k per year extra.

The Merc looks great if you can live with the limited range and lack of fast charging, neither of which bother me.

jimsco

54 posts

239 months

Wednesday 14th September 2016
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Had to be registered this month so I get it delivered on the 30th - too early for me too but I didn't want to miss the deal. I suspect they want to get rid now before the announcement of a long range Mercedes at the Paris motorshow. Doubt the new one will be this cheap though.

pandeas

29 posts

91 months

Thursday 15th September 2016
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jimsco said:
Had to be registered this month so I get it delivered on the 30th - too early for me too but I didn't want to miss the deal. I suspect they want to get rid now before the announcement of a long range Mercedes at the Paris motorshow. Doubt the new one will be this cheap though.
Hi, could you let me know where you found the MB Electric Drive offer and is it still available? I can't seem to find it.

dave_s13

13,814 posts

269 months

Wednesday 21st September 2016
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ooo000ooo said:
Is there any point in asking Renault to extend the contract for another year? IIRC when I got mine it was a 2 year lease on the car but a 3 year lease on the battery for some weird reason?
I'm going to ask this soon. I'd happily keep the Zoe for the run of the 4 year warranty at the current rate.

HTP99

22,531 posts

140 months

Wednesday 21st September 2016
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dave_s13 said:
ooo000ooo said:
Is there any point in asking Renault to extend the contract for another year? IIRC when I got mine it was a 2 year lease on the car but a 3 year lease on the battery for some weird reason?
I'm going to ask this soon. I'd happily keep the Zoe for the run of the 4 year warranty at the current rate.
I would imagine that the only option available to you would be HP on the balloon payment.

ooo000ooo

2,529 posts

194 months

Wednesday 21st September 2016
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HTP99 said:
I would imagine that the only option available to you would be HP on the balloon payment.
What do you mean?

HTP99

22,531 posts

140 months

Wednesday 21st September 2016
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ooo000ooo said:
HTP99 said:
I would imagine that the only option available to you would be HP on the balloon payment.
What do you mean?
If you are on a PCP and are coming up to the end, you have a balloon payment; you either hand the car back, trade it in or pay it off and keep the car, I should imagine the only option that RCi would give would be an HP offer to fund the whole of the balloon payment as opposed to extending the PCP agreement for another year or two.

DSLiverpool

14,733 posts

202 months

Wednesday 21st September 2016
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All the GOOD Zoe deals were on contract hire 2 years

stargazer30

1,590 posts

166 months

Wednesday 21st September 2016
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I handed my Zoe back this year. Great little car! What did I replace it with.... drum roll .....

A civic type R paperbaggetmecoat

PS - good look with RCI, those guys re-define hopeless.

pandeas

29 posts

91 months

Wednesday 21st September 2016
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Wait until after the Paris motor show and see what improvements to the Zoe and MB B Class are announced. There are lots of rumours around at the moment and Renault have a press conference at the end of this month.