what to replace the Zoe with?
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Had the call from the finance company yesterday. I can keep the car if I make a final payment of £8,051, which i can finance over two years if needed.
Err... and the next option?
I can hand it back in January at the end of my two years or I can pay up the remaining months on the chassis rental only and hand it back early.
I already have a sheddy V70 D5 sitting in the garage so the Zoe's going back, just need to work out whether it goes early or I wait until Jan...
Err... and the next option?
I can hand it back in January at the end of my two years or I can pay up the remaining months on the chassis rental only and hand it back early.
I already have a sheddy V70 D5 sitting in the garage so the Zoe's going back, just need to work out whether it goes early or I wait until Jan...
smn159 said:
Had the call from the finance company yesterday. I can keep the car if I make a final payment of £8,051, which i can finance over two years if needed.
Err... and the next option?
I can hand it back in January at the end of my two years or I can pay up the remaining months on the chassis rental only and hand it back early.
I already have a sheddy V70 D5 sitting in the garage so the Zoe's going back, just need to work out whether it goes early or I wait until Jan...
Probably only worth about £4k!Err... and the next option?
I can hand it back in January at the end of my two years or I can pay up the remaining months on the chassis rental only and hand it back early.
I already have a sheddy V70 D5 sitting in the garage so the Zoe's going back, just need to work out whether it goes early or I wait until Jan...
wjwren said:
what is the situation with the merc b250e then with charging? How long does it take to charge?
Seems to be 28Kwh available (more with Range + option). It will charge at 3.3Kw/h so about 7 hours from a realistic 'empty'. Obviously slower from the 3 pin.My mother turned up on her new one yesterday. EA, premium pack, range pack in a metallic blue. Never thought I'd see the day when my mum's car has 18" alloys! It was in the region of £12k under list.
I had a little drive to demonstrate the various modes and it felt very Mercedes-like. Coming from the Leaf, first thing I noticed was the extra road noise (in part due to less motor whine) and feel through the steering. Felt very solid.
In the default E mode it didn't feel especially responsive - maybe half way between Eco mode and normal in the leaf on a light throttle... perhaps feeling a little heavy off the mark. I settled into D- mode, which felt a touch more aggressive than B mode on the Nissan. A brief spell in S mode made for a more responsive throttle, but never used more than about 30% on the drive.
Will definitely be an option for me come March - plenty of space for 5 (rear seats move forward and back to accommodate people / luggage space) and no compromise on space due to the battery pack.
Bad point: the one she was originally signed up for was allegedly attacked by a mouse on route to the dealer. They had to wait 3 days for a replacement cable. After that was fitted, it only offered 50% battery (dealer's words). I think it ended up going back to the factory. It doesn't inspire confidence in the dealer (who clearly had never sold one before). Service costs also seem to be the same as a petrol / diesel model, despite fewer serviceable parts. Looks like 3-4x the cost of a Nissan service.
Well, as I suggested I might in my OP, I've order a Yeti 1.2tsi on a 2 year lease. Should be ready for collection shortly after the Zoe goes back. £159 down and £159 per month so not a great deal more expensive than the Zoe, when you take battery rental into account.
I enjoyed dipping my toe into electric cars and would do so again if the car/price is right. What seems clear to me is that they're a car to rent not buy.
Anyone know what happens to the charge point at my home after I give the Zoe back? Does it stay? Do I own it or does someone come and take it away?
I enjoyed dipping my toe into electric cars and would do so again if the car/price is right. What seems clear to me is that they're a car to rent not buy.
Anyone know what happens to the charge point at my home after I give the Zoe back? Does it stay? Do I own it or does someone come and take it away?
onedsla said:
wjwren said:
what is the situation with the merc b250e then with charging? How long does it take to charge?
Seems to be 28Kwh available (more with Range + option). It will charge at 3.3Kw/h so about 7 hours from a realistic 'empty'. Obviously slower from the 3 pin.Heathwood said:
Well, as I suggested I might in my OP, I've order a Yeti 1.2tsi on a 2 year lease. Should be ready for collection shortly after the Zoe goes back. £159 down and £159 per month so not a great deal more expensive than the Zoe, when you take battery rental into account.
I enjoyed dipping my toe into electric cars and would do so again if the car/price is right. What seems clear to me is that they're a car to rent not buy.
Anyone know what happens to the charge point at my home after I give the Zoe back? Does it stay? Do I own it or does someone come and take it away?
Good work on the yeti. I like em! And you can't argue with that price can you. I enjoyed dipping my toe into electric cars and would do so again if the car/price is right. What seems clear to me is that they're a car to rent not buy.
Anyone know what happens to the charge point at my home after I give the Zoe back? Does it stay? Do I own it or does someone come and take it away?
I would imagine the charge point stays put as they are funded by the government anyway aren't they?
RCI rang my Mrs yesterday as it's her name in the lease but she wasn't about. I imagine they are fishing for mugs willing to sign up to 8k+ on finance for 2 more years.
Personally I've got my beady eye on the lease car thread. Depending on what comes up I'm totally open to either another ev or a golf r/gti, or a yeti. My plan is to get my trigger finger ready just before Santa comes.
No letter, email or phonecall for me yet - the Zoe would be due to go back in December/ January. I suspect my dealer messed things up and even though I signed a 2y/ 3y deal on the car/ battery they or RCI have put me on a 3y/ 3y deal.
I've been meaning to call RCI to find out what they think but I haven't got around to it yet... I'm off next week so I'll do it then. TBF if it turns out to be a 3y/ 3y deal then I'll be happy enough.
The Zoe has been great, a real eye opener in terms of how good EVs are as commuters and as to what a difference there'd be if all cars were electric! Nothing worse than a drive in the country in an EV with the windows down only to enter a town, pull up at a set of lights and have some rattly smelly diesel pull up beside you
I've been meaning to call RCI to find out what they think but I haven't got around to it yet... I'm off next week so I'll do it then. TBF if it turns out to be a 3y/ 3y deal then I'll be happy enough.
The Zoe has been great, a real eye opener in terms of how good EVs are as commuters and as to what a difference there'd be if all cars were electric! Nothing worse than a drive in the country in an EV with the windows down only to enter a town, pull up at a set of lights and have some rattly smelly diesel pull up beside you
Renault phoned me the other day.
Dear Sir your agreement finishes on the xxth of february (picked the car up 7.1.15, am i getting an extra month?)
You have 4 options -
1 - pay the balance in 1 lump sum and keep the car
2 - finance the balance over 2 years
3 - trade the car in for a new one
4 - hand the car back
Me: umm my car's leased, as far as i know it has to go back and it sounds like you're talking about the end of a pcp?
Renault: oh........
Should i be concerned? I've read a few threads about renault finance and them being a bit flakey.
Dear Sir your agreement finishes on the xxth of february (picked the car up 7.1.15, am i getting an extra month?)
You have 4 options -
1 - pay the balance in 1 lump sum and keep the car
2 - finance the balance over 2 years
3 - trade the car in for a new one
4 - hand the car back
Me: umm my car's leased, as far as i know it has to go back and it sounds like you're talking about the end of a pcp?
Renault: oh........
Should i be concerned? I've read a few threads about renault finance and them being a bit flakey.
ooo000ooo said:
Renault phoned me the other day.
Dear Sir your agreement finishes on the xxth of february (picked the car up 7.1.15, am i getting an extra month?)
You have 4 options -
1 - pay the balance in 1 lump sum and keep the car
2 - finance the balance over 2 years
3 - trade the car in for a new one
4 - hand the car back
Me: umm my car's leased, as far as i know it has to go back and it sounds like you're talking about the end of a pcp?
Renault: oh........
Should i be concerned? I've read a few threads about renault finance and them being a bit flakey.
You sure it isn't on a PCP; people use the term "lease" very broadly, without realising what it means, if Renault/RCI are giving you the above options then it will most certainly be on a PCP. Dear Sir your agreement finishes on the xxth of february (picked the car up 7.1.15, am i getting an extra month?)
You have 4 options -
1 - pay the balance in 1 lump sum and keep the car
2 - finance the balance over 2 years
3 - trade the car in for a new one
4 - hand the car back
Me: umm my car's leased, as far as i know it has to go back and it sounds like you're talking about the end of a pcp?
Renault: oh........
Should i be concerned? I've read a few threads about renault finance and them being a bit flakey.
As for picking the car up in Jan but Renault/RCI stating your agreement ends in Feb, yes it does as the first monthly payment will have been a month after collecting the car so it all jumps on a month; 24 months on from the first monthly payment would be a Feb finish, the balloon payment will be a further month after that, if on a PCP.
If it was a "lease" most likely actually contract hire on 3+23 profile, then your advance payment which you would have paid when collecting the car would cover the first payment and you will likely have had a further 23 payments thereafter, starting Feb 15, making the final being in December 16, which will cover you for a further month.
My Mrs got the same call a few days ago.
They asked her about getting a new ZOE and she said she would be open to the idea if the price was in the same ball park. They have apparently passed our details on to the dealer who will make contact in a few weeks......probably.
It's going to be interesting to see what they come up with. The new ZOE seems to have a much better range, but I really want something a bit bigger so we can use it more of the time as the family bus (3 kids). I really like the Merc B class and/or a Leaf would be better for us.
We have another dilemma though. Having an extension in the new year and it's going to mean skips/building materials on the drive so getting in to charge may be a challenge. Might need to go ICE for a few months!
They asked her about getting a new ZOE and she said she would be open to the idea if the price was in the same ball park. They have apparently passed our details on to the dealer who will make contact in a few weeks......probably.
It's going to be interesting to see what they come up with. The new ZOE seems to have a much better range, but I really want something a bit bigger so we can use it more of the time as the family bus (3 kids). I really like the Merc B class and/or a Leaf would be better for us.
We have another dilemma though. Having an extension in the new year and it's going to mean skips/building materials on the drive so getting in to charge may be a challenge. Might need to go ICE for a few months!
HTP99 said:
You sure it isn't on a PCP; people use the term "lease" very broadly, without realising what it means, if Renault/RCI are giving you the above options then it will most certainly be on a PCP.
As for picking the car up in Jan but Renault/RCI stating your agreement ends in Feb, yes it does as the first monthly payment will have been a month after collecting the car so it all jumps on a month; 24 months on from the first monthly payment would be a Feb finish, the balloon payment will be a further month after that, if on a PCP.
If it was a "lease" most likely actually contract hire on 3+23 profile, then your advance payment which you would have paid when collecting the car would cover the first payment and you will likely have had a further 23 payments thereafter, starting Feb 15, making the final being in December 16, which will cover you for a further month.
I did it on the £99 up front & £99 per month plus battery rental, I thought it was a lease? Must check the paperwork lol!As for picking the car up in Jan but Renault/RCI stating your agreement ends in Feb, yes it does as the first monthly payment will have been a month after collecting the car so it all jumps on a month; 24 months on from the first monthly payment would be a Feb finish, the balloon payment will be a further month after that, if on a PCP.
If it was a "lease" most likely actually contract hire on 3+23 profile, then your advance payment which you would have paid when collecting the car would cover the first payment and you will likely have had a further 23 payments thereafter, starting Feb 15, making the final being in December 16, which will cover you for a further month.
I presume if it's a pcp there'll be loads of equity in my 16K car with that Renault think is worth 8k+ but is really only worth half a kit kat?
ooo000ooo said:
I did it on the £99 up front & £99 per month plus battery rental, I thought it was a lease? Must check the paperwork lol!
I presume if it's a pcp there'll be loads of equity in my 16K car with that Renault think is worth 8k+ but is really only worth half a kit kat?
Works the other way doesn't it? I presume if it's a pcp there'll be loads of equity in my 16K car with that Renault think is worth 8k+ but is really only worth half a kit kat?
We are all in negative equity!
If the GFV was 4k but they were selling for 8k then you could sell it privately, pay off the GFV and be 4k up. As it stands we all owe about 8k and it's worth £fkall!
Edited by dave_s13 on Friday 21st October 16:18
dave_s13 said:
Works the other way doesn't it?
We are all in negative equity!
If the GFV was 4k but they were selling for 8k then you could sell it privately, pay off the GFV and be 4k up. As it stands we all owe about 8k and it's worth £fkall!
financial meltdown, I blame brexitWe are all in negative equity!
If the GFV was 4k but they were selling for 8k then you could sell it privately, pay off the GFV and be 4k up. As it stands we all owe about 8k and it's worth £fkall!
Edited by dave_s13 on Friday 21st October 16:18
Heathwood said:
With the ever falling Zoe values compared with the c£9k owed, unless I hand the car back, I'm getting increasingly nervous of using the car as I didn't bother with GAP insurance.
Anyone else in the same boat or was I the only buyer not to see what would happen to future values?
I didn't bother with GAP insurance either but there again I fully intend to hand it back for the new 41KW model.Anyone else in the same boat or was I the only buyer not to see what would happen to future values?
If anyone is interested the RCOZ Owners club on Face ache has a good deal going on.
LordFlathead said:
Heathwood said:
With the ever falling Zoe values compared with the c£9k owed, unless I hand the car back, I'm getting increasingly nervous of using the car as I didn't bother with GAP insurance.
Anyone else in the same boat or was I the only buyer not to see what would happen to future values?
I didn't bother with GAP insurance either but there again I fully intend to hand it back for the new 41KW model.Anyone else in the same boat or was I the only buyer not to see what would happen to future values?
If anyone is interested the RCOZ Owners club on Face ache has a good deal going on.
BrewXXV said:
What sort of deals are being done on the new Zoe Z.E.40? Is there an increased cost associated with the increased range?
I would have thought the range makes the Zoes far more usable for a lot of people.
Literally just rang up for a price....copy/past from the lease car thread..I would have thought the range makes the Zoes far more usable for a lot of people.
Just got a quote from Renault Leicester who have some kind of deal going with the Facebook owners group.
New version (better range)
£500 deposit
£234 car
£75 battery
24 months
Total = £329/month
1st Gen version
£234 deposit
£232 car+battery
24months
Total = £232/month
That's for 7500miles.
When you're original deal was £150 dep then £155/month this is just too much of a jump for me to be comfortable with.
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