2017 ZOE - 41kWh - 248 mile range

2017 ZOE - 41kWh - 248 mile range

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lost in espace

6,164 posts

208 months

Saturday 1st October 2016
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Phunk said:
Cold weather means the battery chemistry isn't as efficient, plus heater and lights can use a little bit of energy. This means that it can use more energy and also take longer to charge. However once the battery pack is warmed up (by rapid charging or driving on the motorway), it isn't quite as bad.

Roughly range reduces about 25-40% in the winter.
Wind and rain, of which there is more in the winter, are also factors. Water affects tyre drag.

AW10

4,440 posts

250 months

Sunday 2nd October 2016
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I get that the range is reduced in cold weather/rain/night; thanks. My question is - does it take the same amount of KWh to recharge in the winter as in the summer?

pherlopolus

2,088 posts

159 months

Sunday 2nd October 2016
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AW10 said:
I get that the range is reduced in cold weather/rain/night; thanks. My question is - does it take the same amount of KWh to recharge in the winter as in the summer?
I was trying to decide if this was a daft question or not, my assumption is that it is like saying does it take more petrol to fill tank in winter, but am unsure of efficiency losses in cold weather, or whether it is more efficient charging at cooler temperatures

Phunk

1,977 posts

172 months

Sunday 2nd October 2016
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AW10 said:
I get that the range is reduced in cold weather/rain/night; thanks. My question is - does it take the same amount of KWh to recharge in the winter as in the summer?
Yes, it will take the same amount of Kwh to recharge. However it may take more time to charge.

FastNReliable1

20 posts

92 months

Sunday 2nd October 2016
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pherlopolus said:
I was trying to decide if this was a daft question or not, my assumption is that it is like saying does it take more petrol to fill tank in winter, but am unsure of efficiency losses in cold weather, or whether it is more efficient charging at cooler temperatures
While IC cars benefit from the lower intake temperatures EVs do not so the denser air and its increased drag have a negative impact on EV efficiency. Add to this the cumulative effect of all the other bits n bobs e.g. colder tyres, bearings, cabin heating etc. I imagine it all adds up.

For EVs The I2R losses will be lower in cooler ambient temperatures but what the overall system result is I don't know. Important though to keep a sense of perspective, a 24kWh charge at 11p/kWh is £2.64 plus losses, is an extra 10-20% going to cause much worry?

N.B. EVs don't like hot ambient temperatures much either not that this is a worry in Northern Europe smile

pherlopolus

2,088 posts

159 months

Monday 3rd October 2016
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Just wishing I could download the data from the charge point in the garage and match it with our leaf data now, I have a slight case of ocd with regards data 😀

essayer

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9,081 posts

195 months

Monday 3rd October 2016
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pherlopolus said:
Just wishing I could download the data from the charge point in the garage and match it with our leaf data now, I have a slight case of ocd with regards data ??
If it's a Polar point you might be able to, I can log into my Polar Plus account and see my home charges

pherlopolus

2,088 posts

159 months

Monday 3rd October 2016
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essayer said:
If it's a Polar point you might be able to, I can log into my Polar Plus account and see my home charges
It is a rolec, It all must get sent somewhere though!