Outlander PHEV

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Nickp82

3,189 posts

94 months

Friday 14th October 2016
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JumboBeef said:
Is the 17MY out next month then?
Yes it is

JumboBeef

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3,772 posts

178 months

Saturday 15th October 2016
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Nickp82 said:
JumboBeef said:
Is the 17MY out next month then?
Yes it is
Do you have any info or links please? I'd heard the rumours but can't find anything definitive. I asked the dealer and he denied it.

Any idea what changes there are for the new model? Better battery range.....?

Nickp82

3,189 posts

94 months

Saturday 15th October 2016
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JumboBeef said:
Nickp82 said:
JumboBeef said:
Is the 17MY out next month then?
Yes it is
Do you have any info or links please? I'd heard the rumours but can't find anything definitive. I asked the dealer and he denied it.

Any idea what changes there are for the new model? Better battery range.....?
I don't know the full details and unfortunately don't have a link but some features will be added such as blind spot warning and Apple Carplay (and the android equivalent). No changes to range afaik but will see if I can find out more later today and let you know

Russ T Bolt

1,689 posts

284 months

Saturday 15th October 2016
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Nickp82 said:
JumboBeef said:
Nickp82 said:
JumboBeef said:
Is the 17MY out next month then?
Yes it is
Do you have any info or links please? I'd heard the rumours but can't find anything definitive. I asked the dealer and he denied it.

Any idea what changes there are for the new model? Better battery range.....?
I don't know the full details and unfortunately don't have a link but some features will be added such as blind spot warning and Apple Carplay (and the android equivalent). No changes to range afaik but will see if I can find out more later today and let you know
The rumour is

http://www.automotiveworld.com/news-releases/mitsu...

'The Outlander features a new floor console and improved interior trim quality as well as MMC’s Forward Collision Mitigation System, now with a function to detect pedestrians, Blind Spot Warning and other advanced active safety systems. The Outlander PHEV meanwhile, adopts an EV Priority Mode that gives greater priority to all-electric operation as well as the same advanced active safety systems as the Outlander.' There is also an updated infotainment system.

Also see the info here.
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/mitsubishi/outlander/...

I also heard that a small price rise would accompany it, which is why I ordered one now due to uncertainty of what the leasing prices would be like.

Non of the rumoured new features bothered me.

JumboBeef

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3,772 posts

178 months

Saturday 15th October 2016
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Interesting thanks.

The only new feature which I like is the EV only mode.

All these "safety" features I feel actually make worse drivers. I don't need blind spot function because I use my eyes.

I had a friend who worked at a body shop and he told me when reversing sensors first came out, they saw an increase in low speed reversing damage. People were trusting the technology rather than looking (for example hitting posts which were between the sensors).

My TVR doesn't even have ABS let alone airbags etc, it makes you feel more vulnerable and so more careful.

Edited by JumboBeef on Saturday 15th October 09:20

S11Steve

6,374 posts

185 months

Sunday 16th October 2016
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Bee_Jay said:
Just putting this here, as I think it is interesting but don't know where to put it- and is kind of an add-on to my post above...

Brake pads are lasting very well on my PHEV. Just had my 25,000 mile 2-year service.

Front pads are 55% worn, rears are only 40% worn !!!

Interestingly it has sailed through both services with no comments at all, and I have had NO problems at all.
I guess the regenerative braking helps prolong the life of the pads. I've not had one yet long enough to reach a first service, but I'd but had any reliability issues.

Bee_Jay

2,599 posts

249 months

Sunday 16th October 2016
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S11Steve said:
I guess the regenerative braking helps prolong the life of the pads. I've not had one yet long enough to reach a first service, but I'd but had any reliability issues.
Indeed it does. The hardest wear on pads is braking from speed - this is mostly done by regen braking on the Outlander (and other EVs) and the pads are only used towards the end when you approach slower speeds to bring you to an actual stop.

There are stories of Leaf forums of brake pads lasting for a phenomenal amount of time for this reason.

Also less brake dust on the alloys compared to an ICE has been noticeable.

JumboBeef

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3,772 posts

178 months

Wednesday 19th October 2016
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I've decided to wait for the 17MY which is out in a couple of months.

jkh112

22,060 posts

159 months

Thursday 27th October 2016
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I have recently driven my PHEV from Bristol to Gatwick and remenbered this thread so made a mental note of fuel consumption etc. Thought someone might find it useful. Note my car now has 20k miles on it and the mpg has noticeably improved as the mileage has gone up.

Outward journey Bristol to Gatwick, early morning, M5, M4, M25 etc. Light traffic, no major hold ups and cruise set at indicated 75 on the satnav. Used 3/4 of battery on the journey (use of SAVE when at speed). Journey mpg was 42.

Return journey at evening rush hour. Traffic much heavier and some hold ups. Started journey with empty battery (last 1/4 used getting to hotel around Gatwick). Little use of cruise control as traffic not flowing well enough and speeds varied from standstill up to 80 on the satnav. Journey mpg was 38.


Edited by jkh112 on Thursday 27th October 08:35

JumboBeef

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3,772 posts

178 months

Friday 28th October 2016
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Around 40mpg isn't bad at all for a large 4x4. Thanks.

Russ T Bolt

1,689 posts

284 months

Friday 28th October 2016
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I will add my findings so far.

I travel down to Bristol generally once a week, distance of 100 miles or so.

Went down this Wednesday, didn't intend to but ended up 'pressing on' a bit which resulted in an average of 29mpg (started with a full battery) but I was covering ground quickly and had charge on for the last 10 miles or so.

Coming back yesterday I got caught up in a meeting and left as the M4 was getting busy so just sat in the inside lane with cruise on at about 60mph, averaged just under 46mpg starting with an empty battery.
70 gives me about 42mpg or so when I tried that last week.

Car is 3 weeks/1200 miles old.

I find the economy about the same as my Avensis on long journeys and I thought that was good for a petrol car, so very pleased given the size of the car and the 4wd.


Russ T Bolt

1,689 posts

284 months

Friday 28th October 2016
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jkh112 said:
I have recently driven my PHEV from Bristol to Gatwick and remenbered this thread so made a mental note of fuel consumption etc. Thought someone might find it useful. Note my car now has 20k miles on it and the mpg has noticeably improved as the mileage has gone up.

Outward journey Bristol to Gatwick, early morning, M5, M4, M25 etc. Light traffic, no major hold ups and cruise set at indicated 75 on the satnav. Used 3/4 of battery on the journey (use of SAVE when at speed). Journey mpg was 42.

Return journey at evening rush hour. Traffic much heavier and some hold ups. Started journey with empty battery (last 1/4 used getting to hotel around Gatwick). Little use of cruise control as traffic not flowing well enough and speeds varied from standstill up to 80 on the satnav. Journey mpg was 38.


Edited by jkh112 on Thursday 27th October 08:35
I haven't looked, but to save me rummaging around in menus, how do I get the sat nav to display the speed ?

jkh112

22,060 posts

159 months

Saturday 29th October 2016
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Buy a Garmin!
I went for a 3 with leather instead of the 4 so I miss out on satnav and sunroof, but my lease cost is much lower.

Russ T Bolt

1,689 posts

284 months

Saturday 29th October 2016
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jkh112 said:
Buy a Garmin!
I went for a 3 with leather instead of the 4 so I miss out on satnav and sunroof, but my lease cost is much lower.
I have 2 Garmins and aTomTom for the other cars. The inbuilt system in the Outlander is much faster to respond.

I did consider the GX3h because I don't really like Leather. But I wanted the electric drivers seat, I find doing long journeys the ability to adjust very slightly is useful.

I know it gets slated but I really like the MMCS, even the stereo is good quality.


jkh112

22,060 posts

159 months

Saturday 29th October 2016
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Sounds like things may have improved. When they first came out the MMCS did not get good reviews.
I have one of the early cars and when I ordered it there was a huge difference in lease cost between the 3 with leather and the 4, there was also a much shorter wait time so I guess Mitsubishi were trying to push the lower spec model as most orders were for the 4.

JumboBeef

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3,772 posts

178 months

Sunday 20th November 2016
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I'm waiting for the release date on 2017 model then I'll get one of those. Anyone know when that might be?