Salary sacrifice leasing

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Basil Brush

5,090 posts

264 months

Tuesday 2nd April
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z4RRSchris said:
Basil Brush said:
Not if you can use it to reclaim enough tax to pay for your car outright and keep the cash.
The "cash" however is locked into your pension till your old and wrinkley.

id rather money and toys now.
Next year for me!!

KGoogle

33 posts

83 months

Tuesday 2nd April
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Anyone here have a byd seal ? How are they compared to a model 3 ?

TheDrownedApe

1,037 posts

57 months

Tuesday 2nd April
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KGoogle said:
Anyone here have a byd seal ? How are they compared to a model 3 ?
bit SS specialised in here, try looking in the main EV forum.

SWoll

18,479 posts

259 months

Wednesday 3rd April
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Downward said:
Prices on Tusker have gone up 10% this year I’ve noticed.

Although charging £500 a month for a Corsa E is a bit rich. Guess the insurance is the factor as you can use the scheme at any age.
Insurance costs them very little, it's the biblical initial depreciation on the vast majority of EV's that is driving up lease/SS costs.

Here's a 6 month old pre-registered, delivery mileage Corsa E for almost £20k off list price.



£500 a month would have that bought outright in 3 years..


NomadicTurbo

784 posts

75 months

Wednesday 3rd April
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Had another call from Octopus today, pushing their 'Nearly New' range of cars.

Has anyone gone down this route?

Sheepshanks

32,835 posts

120 months

Wednesday 3rd April
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SWoll said:
Downward said:
Prices on Tusker have gone up 10% this year I’ve noticed.

Although charging £500 a month for a Corsa E is a bit rich. Guess the insurance is the factor as you can use the scheme at any age.
Insurance costs them very little, it's the biblical initial depreciation on the vast majority of EV's that is driving up lease/SS costs.

Here's a 6 month old pre-registered, delivery mileage Corsa E for almost £20k off list price.



£500 a month would have that bought outright in 3 years..
That's exactly where I am with EVs. It's bad enough at low mileage, but the 15-20K/yr we need kills leasing costs generally and I'm not seeing anything that's making me think SS through Tusker will make sense.

So buy something for £15-20K and if it's worthless after 3 more years then we'll still have broken even - any value left will be a bonus. And I won;t have to worry about every little dink bringing return penalties etc.

KGoogle

33 posts

83 months

Thursday 4th April
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NomadicTurbo said:
Had another call from Octopus today, pushing their 'Nearly New' range of cars.

Has anyone gone down this route?
Are they much cheaper

the-norseman

12,472 posts

172 months

Thursday 4th April
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NomadicTurbo said:
Had another call from Octopus today, pushing their 'Nearly New' range of cars.

Has anyone gone down this route?
Is this just open to company employees that have signed up.

My rather large company doesn't offer SSL. They have even stopped the cycle2work scheme.

Pistonheadsdicoverer

192 posts

47 months

Saturday 6th April
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This is how ridiculous Tusker has become

Vauxhall Corsa
Corsa-e Hatch 5Dr 0.0Elec 50kWh 136 Design A
£641*
Monthly net amount
P11d value:
£32390

24 months, 5000 miles.

z4RRSchris

11,337 posts

180 months

Saturday 6th April
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say it’s worth 50%, and they are borrowing at 7.5% to fund

that’s 840pm before any profit or other costs.

the silly pricing is the result of residuals falling through the floor and base rate being 5.25

nufcfan

102 posts

164 months

Sunday 7th April
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We are on Tusker, but I’m not seeing much value at the moment. Tempted by an ipace but have concerns about charging speed.

Would ideally like an ix1/iX (x drives) or q4/8 Quattro but nothing really jumping out + long lead times quoted.

Decisions!

Wdk1866

210 posts

120 months

Sunday 7th April
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Hi, does the following make sense. I am in the 60% tax window (base pay 100k - 125k).

So if i look at the polestar 2 dual motor 421 long range (4 years 7.5k miles per year) the quote is

Gross 885
tax saving 354
NI saving 18
BIK +36
effective net pay -549

however because of the additional tax saving of reducing my taxable income my actual effective net pay would be -£372. Does that sound about right. Which is then ok value for me.

My other question for anyone who has ordered through Tusker. How accurate are their instock / coming soon timings. I am trying to plan for a car swap in June or July. I see some cars coming up as early May and they state 6-8 weeks lead time, which i could make work. unless the lead time only applies to instock only. thanks


ChocolateFrog

25,553 posts

174 months

Sunday 7th April
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NomadicTurbo said:
Had another call from Octopus today, pushing their 'Nearly New' range of cars.

Has anyone gone down this route?
They lose so much almost immediately that if I'm not getting tbe brand new experience then I'm not paying several hundred per month.

The discount would have to represent reality and I'm sure it won't.

ChocolateFrog

25,553 posts

174 months

Sunday 7th April
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nufcfan said:
We are on Tusker, but I’m not seeing much value at the moment. Tempted by an ipace but have concerns about charging speed.

Would ideally like an ix1/iX (x drives) or q4/8 Quattro but nothing really jumping out + long lead times quoted.

Decisions!
I wouldn't put too much weight on the quoted lead times.

djc206

12,384 posts

126 months

Sunday 7th April
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Wdk1866 said:
Hi, does the following make sense. I am in the 60% tax window (base pay 100k - 125k).

So if i look at the polestar 2 dual motor 421 long range (4 years 7.5k miles per year) the quote is

Gross 885
tax saving 354
NI saving 18
BIK +36
effective net pay -549

however because of the additional tax saving of reducing my taxable income my actual effective net pay would be -£372. Does that sound about right. Which is then ok value for me.

My other question for anyone who has ordered through Tusker. How accurate are their instock / coming soon timings. I am trying to plan for a car swap in June or July. I see some cars coming up as early May and they state 6-8 weeks lead time, which i could make work. unless the lead time only applies to instock only. thanks
That’s correct if your pay after pension contributions is over £110.6k. If you’re already sacrificing elsewhere then you need to account for that.

cj2013

1,409 posts

127 months

Monday 8th April
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KGoogle said:
Are they much cheaper
No, about 10% less if that.

Cheaper to buy/PCP something nearly new than to use SS with octopus IMO

MikePRT90

13 posts

68 months

Monday 8th April
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ChocolateFrog said:
I wouldn't put too much weight on the quoted lead times.
My experience with Tusker was the opposite. Tesla model 3 highland RWD ordered 8th Feb, picked up 23rd Feb…was originally quoted 10-15 weeks! Guess I was just lucky they had one in stock and unallocated.

Pistonheadsdicoverer

192 posts

47 months

Monday 8th April
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MikePRT90 said:
My experience with Tusker was the opposite. Tesla model 3 highland RWD ordered 8th Feb, picked up 23rd Feb…was originally quoted 10-15 weeks! Guess I was just lucky they had one in stock and unallocated.
Out of curiosity, how much did they charge you?

On a 24/10K miles, I am seeing £852...

Trikster

825 posts

203 months

Tuesday 9th April
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nufcfan said:
We are on Tusker, but I’m not seeing much value at the moment. Tempted by an ipace but have concerns about charging speed.

Would ideally like an ix1/iX (x drives) or q4/8 Quattro but nothing really jumping out + long lead times quoted.

Decisions!
Just done exactly that - ordered one of the coming soon iPaces - whilst slower charging speeds we’d probably only be using a fast charger 4-5 times a year and after a little research it doesn’t look all doom and gloom as the IPace seems to hold its charging speeds where other cars drop off more quickly… so rate it might make a 15min real time difference at the pump (plug?) for us on any charges we need to do in the wild

Just heard the car is built so will let you know how I get on….

MikePRT90

13 posts

68 months

Tuesday 9th April
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Pistonheadsdicoverer said:
Out of curiosity, how much did they charge you?

On a 24/10K miles, I am seeing £852...
£875…42/7.5k.

Looking on Tusker now I can see prices have risen as they are charging £954 for 42/7.5k. 24/10k is showing at £1,296!!!

All figures above quoted gross