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Porridge GTI said:
Can you imagine pulling up at the school gates in an R1S?
I think the R1S looks interesting. I can't seem to find firm information about it's size - it looks like it might be slightly bigger than a Q7.I guess if you need to do any tight manoeuvres, you can use the "tank turn" function
Witchfinder said:
Porridge GTI said:
Can you imagine pulling up at the school gates in an R1S?
I think the R1S looks interesting. I can't seem to find firm information about it's size - it looks like it might be slightly bigger than a Q7.I guess if you need to do any tight manoeuvres, you can use the "tank turn" function
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzwM8KE2L3I
SWoll said:
and to think I called the turning circle on the Honda e a gimmick If we make a list of pointless sales gimmicks on EV's it's becoming so long it's ridiculous. If Tesla eventually do put rockets on the roadster I'll know it's all finally gone too far
Smiljan said:
SWoll said:
and to think I called the turning circle on the Honda e a gimmick If we make a list of pointless sales gimmicks on EV's it's becoming so long it's ridiculous. If Tesla eventually do put rockets on the roadster I'll know it's all finally gone too far
aestetix1 said:
Will we even get it? RHD and brexit uncertainty, I doubt they are in a rush to release here.
Statement by Mark Vinnels: https://youtu.be/QMfxJEfb4lw?t=672
I was very keen to begin with, then saw the specs and like others realised it simply wouldn't be usable in the UK. You won't be able to park it, it won't fit through width limiters, you won't get it into most multi-storeys and so on. Worth adding that the real-world range turned out to be nothing like as good as the original marketing material suggested it would be. Still waiting for a real 600-mile-motorway-range family wagon to replace the XC90 that replaced our preferred Disco 4s.
964Cup said:
Still waiting for a real 600-mile-motorway-range family wagon to replace the XC90 that replaced our preferred Disco 4s.
600 now, is it?I remember everyone waiting for 250 mile real-range. Then they would definitely buy an EV. Then it was 300 mile range. Then 350. I guess we're getting too close to being able to drive from London to Edinburgh without stopping, so might as well set the target at 600 miles. I mean, who needs to eat, right? And there are millions of people with cast-iron bladder control who do 800 miles in one go, so maybe 600 won't be enough...
Some people should just admit they don't want an EV at all and be done with it.
600 miles indeed. And here's me, up and down the nations motorway network with a 120 mile range (in summer) and a bunch of charging apps, and never an issue.
Bert Plerg said:
964Cup said:
Still waiting for a real 600-mile-motorway-range family wagon to replace the XC90 that replaced our preferred Disco 4s.
600 now, is it?I remember everyone waiting for 250 mile real-range. Then they would definitely buy an EV. Then it was 300 mile range. Then 350. I guess we're getting too close to being able to drive from London to Edinburgh without stopping, so might as well set the target at 600 miles. I mean, who needs to eat, right? And there are millions of people with cast-iron bladder control who do 800 miles in one go, so maybe 600 won't be enough...
Some people should just admit they don't want an EV at all and be done with it.
600 miles indeed. And here's me, up and down the nations motorway network with a 120 mile range (in summer) and a bunch of charging apps, and never an issue.
Your own eat/drink/pee range is more important than non stop battery range after a certain point. When you need to stop, top up or charge while you're there. You're not going to drive 600 miles (10 hours?) non stop. Lands End to John o' Groats is 875 miles. 200-250 miles, maybe 300, is probably fine realistically.ajprice said:
Your own eat/drink/pee range is more important than non stop battery range after a certain point. When you need to stop, top up or charge while you're there. You're not going to drive 600 miles (10 hours?) non stop. Lands End to John o' Groats is 875 miles. 200-250 miles, maybe 300, is probably fine realistically.So it's not that I want to do 600 miles without stopping - 400 is our normal routine - but that I want to have enough charge to skip a charging station if all the slots are full or broken (as one does with petrol stations if the food is poor or they're out of your chosen blend) and to carry on travelling around once I get there.
As an aside, for those of you who think 150 miles is enough range, you should try driving around Umbria and Tuscany on country roads - we got range anxiety in our petrol car because petrol stations can be few and far between (and closed for lunch, and on Sundays) and in a thousand miles or so of countryside I saw no EV chargers. You could probably have done the same trip, in terms of final destinations, in an EV on motorways, but it wouldn't have been any fun.
ajprice said:
Your own eat/drink/pee range is more important than non stop battery range after a certain point. When you need to stop, top up or charge while you're there. You're not going to drive 600 miles (10 hours?) non stop. Lands End to John o' Groats is 875 miles. 200-250 miles, maybe 300, is probably fine realistically.Absolutely ideal.
In 2 years time, it'll be "must do 900 miles and fill in 30 seconds".......
SWoll said:
kambites said:
I was going to say isn't it a bit wide for UK roads,... then I realised it's only 3-4 cm wider than a Range Rover or a Model-X.
So that's a yes then? My iPace = 2,139 with mirrors unfolded! - It's like dragging around the fat arse of a Lambo Diablo.
EV's seem to be re-writing what is reasonable in terms of car width, awkward for me because I live in a 1000 year old market town, it doesn't really fit anywhere. I can park in the town car parks 'just about' but any driver getting back to their car parked next to mine needs keep an eye on their weight if they're expecting to get in their drivers door.. Parking two iPace's side by side in most car parks around here would be impossible. In fact, pretty much any two of the larger more powerful EV's will struggle.
Our car's name is Carmen (Electra...) now but when we first got her she was immediately christened 'fatty-V'...
JonChalk said:
ajprice said:
Your own eat/drink/pee range is more important than non stop battery range after a certain point. When you need to stop, top up or charge while you're there. You're not going to drive 600 miles (10 hours?) non stop. Lands End to John o' Groats is 875 miles. 200-250 miles, maybe 300, is probably fine realistically.
) the length of time spent 'in the saddle' will, undoubtedly, reduce as we get older. I just like the flexibility the 400/450 miles range gives me, that said I have very little doubt the next family car will be EV and is (probably) going to be a Tesla (recharging network, range and ease of use seem to just 'work' )Gassing Station | EV and Alternative Fuels | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff