Would you buy a non-EV ever again?
Discussion
I have come to realise that, despite decades of PH-worthy cars, adventures, trackdays and general ICE-powered antics, I won't buy another car which isn't an EV, probably ever.
I still have one TDi which it makes no sense to dispose of at the moment as it's fully paid for, but when it goes it will be replaced with an EV, and that's probably it for petrol/diesel for me. This is not for any reason other than that's what I want from now on.
I stress, this is by choice, not for BIK reasons (I'm not a PBD) or ULEZ reasons (I live in the countryside) or money reasons (I doubt EVs are cheaper in the long run for my needs). There isn't really a reason I couldn't have another weekend toy, or a noisy V8, or a revvy hot-hatch if I wanted, but I just would not want to go back to ICE and petrol pumps.
Am I alone? Is it safe to even admit such a thing on PH?
I ask this in the EV sub forum, because in General Garbage there would of course be wailing from those who think EVs are the devil's work, and that's fine, but I don't want their opinion. I want to know from those who have already run an EV and run one now, do you still intend to buy combustion cars in future?
I still have one TDi which it makes no sense to dispose of at the moment as it's fully paid for, but when it goes it will be replaced with an EV, and that's probably it for petrol/diesel for me. This is not for any reason other than that's what I want from now on.
I stress, this is by choice, not for BIK reasons (I'm not a PBD) or ULEZ reasons (I live in the countryside) or money reasons (I doubt EVs are cheaper in the long run for my needs). There isn't really a reason I couldn't have another weekend toy, or a noisy V8, or a revvy hot-hatch if I wanted, but I just would not want to go back to ICE and petrol pumps.
Am I alone? Is it safe to even admit such a thing on PH?
I ask this in the EV sub forum, because in General Garbage there would of course be wailing from those who think EVs are the devil's work, and that's fine, but I don't want their opinion. I want to know from those who have already run an EV and run one now, do you still intend to buy combustion cars in future?
For a daily driver, I'd never buy an ICE car again. Even if the running costs were the same I'd still choose an EV due to the instant torque, preconditioning, not having to visit petrol stations etc.
But my weekend cars need to be high revving NA dino juice consumers
I can't get excited about electric Caymans or 0-60mph in 2s EVs.
But my weekend cars need to be high revving NA dino juice consumers
I can't get excited about electric Caymans or 0-60mph in 2s EVs.Are you making no allowance for running costs or depreciation? In an ICE car comes up that's cheap to run, you would rule it out completely?
I'd have an EV if they were cheap enough (only decent ones IMO like a Leaf are £6k second hand and an e Golf is £20k) but in 2020 I bought a car made in 1975 for under £2k, yes it runs! £0 VED, £80 in insure, MoT exempt.
Yes, it's poor on fuel but 'in the round,' cheaper than spending £20k on an EV no matter how cheap charging may be. I'm only doing about 3k miles a year these days, so for me, a new EV would make no economic sense.
I'd have an EV if they were cheap enough (only decent ones IMO like a Leaf are £6k second hand and an e Golf is £20k) but in 2020 I bought a car made in 1975 for under £2k, yes it runs! £0 VED, £80 in insure, MoT exempt.
Yes, it's poor on fuel but 'in the round,' cheaper than spending £20k on an EV no matter how cheap charging may be. I'm only doing about 3k miles a year these days, so for me, a new EV would make no economic sense.
I bought my first EV, a Tesla 3LR, a couple of years ago. I use it primarily for commuting in and out of London and it's an excellent appliance for doing this. It's also easy for nipping out to the shops and general A to B dull journeys.
But would I want to take it driving across Europe? No.
I'm lucky to be able to have an EV as well as something interesting in the garage. If I had to only have one car, I'm sorry to say the EV would probably win - head over heart.
But would I want to take it driving across Europe? No.
I'm lucky to be able to have an EV as well as something interesting in the garage. If I had to only have one car, I'm sorry to say the EV would probably win - head over heart.
About to change my wife's 12 year old ICE car for a 3 year old ICE car. She could easily manage with an EV but doesn't want one due to the initial cost & she hates change. Almost all her trips are less than 25 miles & she could use my ICE car for the few long trips each year.
I can't be bothered to argue.
I can't be bothered to argue.
We have the I-Pace which isn't going anywhere hopefully for several years but not sure I'm that bothered with getting another EV for the foreseeable. There is no FOMO with EVs obviously and at the moment they just seem to be getting heavier and uglier so I'm happy enough to sit out that progression.
Shaoxter said:
For a daily driver, I'd never buy an ICE car again. Even if the running costs were the same I'd still choose an EV due to the instant torque, preconditioning, not having to visit petrol stations etc.
But my weekend cars need to be high revving NA dino juice consumers I can't get excited about electric Caymans or 0-60mph in 2s EVs.
Same. But my weekend cars need to be high revving NA dino juice consumers
I can't get excited about electric Caymans or 0-60mph in 2s EVs.Every day, short/medium journeys, a no hassle EV is the perfect tool, no question at all.
But I cannot see me not owning something with a decent sized petrol engine, ever. Ideally a V8.
I were restricted to owning just one car it wouldn’t be electric, not yet anyway - that one percent of my journeys is still screwing EVs up for me - public charging has to get a lot quicker and easier.
andy43 said:
Shaoxter said:
For a daily driver, I'd never buy an ICE car again. Even if the running costs were the same I'd still choose an EV due to the instant torque, preconditioning, not having to visit petrol stations etc.
But my weekend cars need to be high revving NA dino juice consumers I can't get excited about electric Caymans or 0-60mph in 2s EVs.
Same. But my weekend cars need to be high revving NA dino juice consumers
I can't get excited about electric Caymans or 0-60mph in 2s EVs.Every day, short/medium journeys, a no hassle EV is the perfect tool, no question at all.
But I cannot see me not owning something with a decent sized petrol engine, ever. Ideally a V8.
I were restricted to owning just one car it wouldn’t be electric, not yet anyway - that one percent of my journeys is still screwing EVs up for me - public charging has to get a lot quicker and easier.
tamore said:
andy43 said:
Shaoxter said:
For a daily driver, I'd never buy an ICE car again. Even if the running costs were the same I'd still choose an EV due to the instant torque, preconditioning, not having to visit petrol stations etc.
But my weekend cars need to be high revving NA dino juice consumers I can't get excited about electric Caymans or 0-60mph in 2s EVs.
Same. But my weekend cars need to be high revving NA dino juice consumers
I can't get excited about electric Caymans or 0-60mph in 2s EVs.Every day, short/medium journeys, a no hassle EV is the perfect tool, no question at all.
But I cannot see me not owning something with a decent sized petrol engine, ever. Ideally a V8.
I were restricted to owning just one car it wouldn’t be electric, not yet anyway - that one percent of my journeys is still screwing EVs up for me - public charging has to get a lot quicker and easier.
Cheap runaround (to run, not buy!) means more funds available for carbon offsetting
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