Am i seeing things?

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ashenfie

714 posts

47 months

Friday 11th November 2022
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bigothunter said:
tedblog said:
Today Volvo released details of the xc90 replacement, the xe90 , it starts at £98k !
Who has the money for these normal cars?
Read somewhere that the average UK domestic budget for a private new car was £22k.

Only another £76k needed to afford that Volvo hehe
Nearly all new car are Leased or PCP, I think is around 85%. Cash is outdated

TheDeuce

21,727 posts

67 months

Friday 11th November 2022
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aizvara said:
TheDeuce said:
That's why the average new car tends to be quite depressing. IE, a Peugeot. A car bought exclusively by people that remeber to indicate shortly after starting to turn the wheel, and endlessly attempt to merge onto motorways at 16 mph and then get stuck at the end of the slip road.
The current range of Peugeots in my experience are not depressing. Mine is a really nice place to sit, looks great, goes pretty fast, handles well, and uses no petrol for most of my journeys.

There are a lot of people who seem to misunderstand how to use a slip road to build a matching speed, and who are very late or entirely absent minded with indicators, but I've not seen any correlation with Peugeot drivers - I'll see if I do from now on.
You get a free pass on the basis you bought the GT which is admittedly a very good value sporty car, back in the day I really admired Peugeot hot hatches, they made some seriously good, chuckable cars.

But let's get real... The typical Peugeot driver buys one now because they don't actually care about cars, they just need one. If a person has no interest or passion in something, they're not going to care how good they are at it. This is why Peugeot drivers are generally useless at driving, because they take no passion in it whatsoever.

If you start to pay attention each time you are behind Peugeot, there is well above odds chance that you'll notice them doing one of the following:

- Pulling over to let a car through that has already flashed to let them through.
- Pulling over to let a car through when there is clearly space for both to pass anyway.
- Indicating shortly after turning.
- As mentioned, failing to join a motorway and getting stuck at the end of the slip road, or for extra points.. stting themselves and getting stuck at the start of the slip road.
- Driving at 40mph in a national speed limit zone and then continuing at 40mph in a 30mph.
- Taking forever to try and park nose first into a space when it would have taken 10 seconds to go in backwards.
- Trying to turn right at a crossroads but not pulling far enough into the junction to allow traffic behind to pass and head straight on.
- Not indicating right at a roundabout and/or not indicating left when wishing to depart.

Not all useless drivers drive a Peugeot, I recognise that, other options are available to the stupid. But there definitely seems to be a correlation between crap drivers and Peugeots imo smile

tedblog

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1,438 posts

81 months

Saturday 12th November 2022
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ashenfie said:
Nearly all new car are Leased or PCP, I think is around 85%. Cash is outdated
Buts thats now a pretty hefty monthly payment. The interest increases wont help it either?

raspy

1,497 posts

95 months

Saturday 12th November 2022
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tedblog said:
Buts thats now a pretty hefty monthly payment. The interest increases wont help it either?
I'm not sure why there is so much of a shocked reaction to prices of these luxury cars. Everyone I know with a brand new XC90, Tesla Model X etc is in a senior role getting a package of £200k and above or running their own company.


SWoll

18,441 posts

259 months

Saturday 12th November 2022
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raspy said:
tedblog said:
Buts thats now a pretty hefty monthly payment. The interest increases wont help it either?
I'm not sure why there is so much of a shocked reaction to prices of these luxury cars. Everyone I know with a brand new XC90, Tesla Model X etc is in a senior role getting a package of £200k and above or running their own company.
And as pointed out in many cases will get the car on salary sacrifice so offsetting 50% or more of the cost against their tax liability and paying minimal BIK.

As an example, someone on £125k a year would pay £700 a month for a car that costs £1600 to lease when taken as SS.

Edited by SWoll on Saturday 12th November 09:59