Who will buy an Ora Funky Cat?

Who will buy an Ora Funky Cat?

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kambites

67,593 posts

222 months

Tuesday 29th November 2022
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0a said:
People won't but it because they are badge snobs. Doesn't sound like it's a very good car though either.
Quite. The people who are badge snobs wont buy it because of the badge; the people who aren't badge snobs wont buy it because the MG4 seems to be better in every way and is something like £7k cheaper.

I'm sure it'll sell to a handful of people who just want something different, but priced that close to the ID3 and Cupra Born it's going to be a hard sell to the masses. It's a shame because had it gone head-to-head with the MG4 as everyone expected it would make a far better case for itself.


ETA: Interestingly, it appears that the next generation of MINI will use the same platform. Lets hope BMW do a better job of the chassis tuning than Ora appear to have done:
Top Gear said:
It’s the creation of Ora, an all-electric brand owned by Great Wall Motor and established as part of a joint venture with BMW.

You see, GWM and BMW have pooled their resources into a new plant in China capable of producing 160,000 vehicles a year, as well as a new EV platform which will also be used in future Minis. So this could well be our first taste of the next-generation Mini Electric.
Edited by kambites on Tuesday 29th November 08:48

MrBig

2,708 posts

130 months

Tuesday 29th November 2022
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I like that it's another sensibly priced EV option, more competition will lead to prices getting a bit more sensible. Would I buy one? No, because I don't like the looks, but I can't stand the Nissan Juke either and look how many there are of them about. I don't think the pricing will put people off who want them either, the Dacia Sandero is much cheaper than the Corsa or Fiesta, but they all still sell very well.

The Late Brake Show review is on the whole very good, I'm afraid that I tend to disregard the views of several magazines now because the writers have become so used to having a £50k+ long termer that their view on the lower end of the market is incredibly skewed.

Jeanboi

2,567 posts

220 months

Tuesday 29th November 2022
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There is something shonky about this car. The styling looks like that typical (old) Chinese automotive way of nicking ideas from other manufacturers and mashing them together. Some details appear cheap and half arsed, like the back end and those front grille things in the foglight area. The interior upholstery looks like one of those quilted 'leather' interior kits you used to see on cheap imported goods websites - just naff. The badge looks cheap and meaningless. I guess it's white goods with a veneer of charm that may appeal to those that are happy enough with just that.

The Chinese can and are doing better than this and I expect the Ora name will evolve to produce greater things, as the Japanese did, as the Korean companies did..............

OutInTheShed

7,676 posts

27 months

Tuesday 29th November 2022
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£32k seems like a high price for a no-name brand.

In the real world that's two years' take home pay for an awful lot of people.

kambites

67,593 posts

222 months

Tuesday 29th November 2022
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OutInTheShed said:
In the real world that's two years' take home pay for an awful lot of people.
I don't think many people taking home £16k a year would be buying any new car!

SWoll

18,444 posts

259 months

Tuesday 29th November 2022
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OutInTheShed said:
£32k seems like a high price for a no-name brand.

In the real world that's two years' take home pay for an awful lot of people.
Does anyone really judge a car purchase based on 2 years take home pay? (at minimum wage no less)

First lease prices for these are up on leasing.com BTW. More per month than a Tesla Model Y LR on the same terms. biglaugh

Abbott

2,420 posts

204 months

Tuesday 29th November 2022
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OutInTheShed said:
£32k seems like a high price for a no-name brand.

In the real world that's two years' take home pay for an awful lot of people.
Looks very expensive for a Chinese low entry level vehicle.
It does have a good 5 star NCAP rating and even has the latest airbag tech with a Centre Side Airbag

ThomW

1,103 posts

29 months

Tuesday 29th November 2022
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GT9 said:
Jader1973 said:
Same people that buy any other wholly Chinese owned brand:

Communists.

Mouth breathing fkwits with no awareness of what China is doing to western economies.

More Communists.
I can pretty much guarantee someone in your family is happily sitting in the next room ordering some Chinese made Amazon tat they don't actually need.

Are they also breathing through their mouth whilst doing this?
Probably happily watching the footy in Qatar too.

Silvanus

5,258 posts

24 months

Tuesday 29th November 2022
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SWoll said:
OutInTheShed said:
£32k seems like a high price for a no-name brand.

In the real world that's two years' take home pay for an awful lot of people.
Does anyone really judge a car purchase based on 2 years take home pay? (at minimum wage no less)

First lease prices for these are up on leasing.com BTW. More per month than a Tesla Model Y LR on the same terms. biglaugh
that'll kill it. Especially considering that well over half of car sales are fleet/business sales. Plus 7 out of 10 of the UKs best selling cars are crossovers/SUVs.

Bannock

4,720 posts

31 months

Tuesday 29th November 2022
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I think I'll be replacing my 30kwh Leaf with an MG4. Can't even see me taking a second's glance at the Ora Funky Cat given the price and range vs an MG4 SE. Nor any other car to be frank, new or second hand. There's just nothing which can come close to the value for money of the MG4. They have absolutely nailed it.

cc3

2,800 posts

117 months

Tuesday 29th November 2022
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Dreadful. And why put more cash into Chinese hands ?

kurokawa

584 posts

109 months

Tuesday 29th November 2022
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bqf said:
I read this morning that the Ora Funky Cat, from Great Wall Motors, goes on sale today.

It's £32,000, has a 193 mile range, and appears to have three Lookers outlets in the West Midlands as it's dealer network.

It comes in 4 primary school crayon colours, and looks like a very odd mash-up of a K12 Micra and a Leaf.

I'm genuinely thinking, and this is rare I think, for a car launch, that there is no-one for whom this car would make any sense whatsoever.

Would anyone buy it?
Very hard to sell in UK, I believe
It is China made, some people allergic to that, then it offers less than MG4 but a higher price tag

Frimley111R

15,677 posts

235 months

Tuesday 29th November 2022
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Its look are marmite, and for those who like marmite it'll be great.

However, trying to sell a car made by a company called 'Ora' which no-one has heard of and then calling the car a Funky Cat may be it's biggest challenge.

Old Man Peabody

599 posts

208 months

Tuesday 29th November 2022
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The big USP with this when it was first announced was the 25k price. No matter what country it comes from, that makes things very interesting.

After Covid and price rises, it's now 32k and capable of less than 200 miles when the goings good.

Low price was key with the Cat and now they don't offer that, I'm not sure who'd splurge 32k on one.

Have you seen the monthlies as well?!

Ooof!

MrBig

2,708 posts

130 months

Tuesday 29th November 2022
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cc3 said:
Dreadful. And why put more cash into Chinese hands ?
Will you be saying the same to those who buy a Tesla Model 3 now?

Mark-C

5,138 posts

206 months

Tuesday 29th November 2022
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MrBig said:
cc3 said:
Dreadful. And why put more cash into Chinese hands ?
Will you be saying the same to those who buy a Tesla Model 3 now?
I will ...

Frimley111R

15,677 posts

235 months

Tuesday 29th November 2022
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Old Man Peabody said:
Have you seen the monthlies as well?!

Ooof!
£5000 dep and £400 a month is about std for a very average car these days.

raspy

1,497 posts

95 months

Tuesday 29th November 2022
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SWoll said:
Does anyone really judge a car purchase based on 2 years take home pay? (at minimum wage no less)

First lease prices for these are up on leasing.com BTW. More per month than a Tesla Model Y LR on the same terms. biglaugh
So they are expecting depreciation to be rather big on this car then?

DonkeyApple

55,413 posts

170 months

Wednesday 30th November 2022
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I watched a couple of reviews of this. Seemed absolutely fine bar the fact that it struck me as phenomenally over priced for what is really the 21st century EV equivalent of the 80s Lada/Skoda cheap import solution.

Pre Covid when the Ora brand launched its first car that had a price tag of something like £7k in China.

The Funky Cat probably costs a bit more to meet export standards but the price being asked in the U.K. suggests a considerable amount of piss taking.

OutInTheShed

7,676 posts

27 months

Wednesday 30th November 2022
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DonkeyApple said:
I watched a couple of reviews of this. Seemed absolutely fine bar the fact that it struck me as phenomenally over priced for what is really the 21st century EV equivalent of the 80s Lada/Skoda cheap import solution.

Pre Covid when the Ora brand launched its first car that had a price tag of something like £7k in China.

The Funky Cat probably costs a bit more to meet export standards but the price being asked in the U.K. suggests a considerable amount of piss taking.
The low price of some cars in China suggests they could be poised to start seriously undercutting european carmakers, but no sign of that here.