Taycan starting to look like a bargain

Taycan starting to look like a bargain

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Murph7355

37,760 posts

257 months

Thursday 25th April
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OutInTheShed said:
Even if it's priced correctly, it will still be depreciating at about £1k a month
At least.

If you want to have a car that's in warranty, there comes a point where a new car is better value, because it has more warranty.
Full warranty on these is 1k per year in up to 3yr blocks. Plus the cost of an inspection if it's fallen out of warranty.

James6112

4,394 posts

29 months

Thursday 25th April
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The Selfish Gene said:
I'd give them 25k for it - just so I could set fire to it.

AT those prices you can get proper cars - an M2 maybe or even an Emira - can't think why anyone would buy a Taycan as a private individual - makes no sense.
Sure, if you say so it must be true wobble

DSLiverpool

14,764 posts

203 months

Thursday 25th April
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I’m sure a second user tax incentive will be announced soon. Has to.

silentbrown

8,856 posts

117 months

Thursday 25th April
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zalrak said:
I just remembered this thread and thought I would check if the Taycan I saw in February was still for sale - and it is! Now at £74k. Will it ever sell???

Pah.


Just 7 months old. Registered 4th Sept, listed on AT 13th Sept.

Terminator X

15,108 posts

205 months

Thursday 25th April
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The EV fanboys doth protest too much it seems. Way too much risk for private buyers hence most of them sat around for so long + big "discounts".

TX.

Murph7355

37,760 posts

257 months

Thursday 25th April
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Terminator X said:
The EV fanboys doth protest too much it seems. Way too much risk for private buyers hence most of them sat around for so long + big "discounts".

TX.
Private buyer. Money where my mouth is.

Also own a TVR Griffith 500 and 200bhp Caterham 7.

Hardcore ICE enough for you girls?

The Taycan's as fantastic a machine as the other two. But seeing the world as "I'm right, you're wrong because you don't think like me" is all good. The only protesting seems to be those coming in to an EV section telling everyone that anything newer than a Blower Bentley is st.

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GT9

6,676 posts

173 months

Thursday 25th April
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Murph7355 said:
Private buyer. Money where my mouth is.

Also own a TVR Griffith 500 and 200bhp Caterham 7.

Hardcore ICE enough for you girls?

The Taycan's as fantastic a machine as the other two. But seeing the world as "I'm right, you're wrong because you don't think like me" is all good. The only protesting seems to be those coming in to an EV section telling everyone that anything newer than a Blower Bentley is st.

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Griff/7 for weekend blasts and Taycan for visiting yogurt weaving classes. All sorted. smile

zalrak

388 posts

86 months

Friday 26th April
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silentbrown said:
Pah.


Just 7 months old. Registered 4th Sept, listed on AT 13th Sept.
Crikey, that's quite shocking really.

andy_ran

577 posts

194 months

Friday 26th April
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silentbrown said:
Pah.


Just 7 months old. Registered 4th Sept, listed on AT 13th Sept.
Flipping heck - Crazy crazy

OutInTheShed

7,676 posts

27 months

Friday 26th April
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Murph7355 said:
OutInTheShed said:
Even if it's priced correctly, it will still be depreciating at about £1k a month
At least.

If you want to have a car that's in warranty, there comes a point where a new car is better value, because it has more warranty.
Full warranty on these is 1k per year in up to 3yr blocks. Plus the cost of an inspection if it's fallen out of warranty.
How old will it be before you can no longer get a meaningful warranty which actually covers everything which can go wrong?

That's not specific to this car or porkers or EVs, all cars get to an age where you have to start expecting bills.
A car that's sat around is still moving towards that point.

Then there is the question of whether being parked up unused is bad for the car in any way.
My experience with old cars is that being idle for several months leads to all sorts of grief.

silentbrown

8,856 posts

117 months

Friday 26th April
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silentbrown said:

Just 7 months old. Registered 4th Sept, listed on AT 13th Sept.
I know WBAC valuations take no account of options, but this was an eye-opener:- For the above car... £34,440!


Murph7355

37,760 posts

257 months

Friday 26th April
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OutInTheShed said:
How old will it be before you can no longer get a meaningful warranty which actually covers everything which can go wrong?

That's not specific to this car or porkers or EVs, all cars get to an age where you have to start expecting bills.
A car that's sat around is still moving towards that point.

Then there is the question of whether being parked up unused is bad for the car in any way.
My experience with old cars is that being idle for several months leads to all sorts of grief.
Ignoring the battery for now... 15yrs and 125k miles (I think - I have some recollection that the mileage whilst covered is unlimited... But it has to currently have less than 125k to put one on the car).

The battery is currently 8yrs and 100k miles. But I think Porsche will do something on that once they have more field data. If the batteries hold up (as Tesla's seem to be) it wouldn't surprise me/would be a good move by Porsche to simply include them on the 15y/125k.

Frimley111R

15,677 posts

235 months

Friday 26th April
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andy_ran said:
silentbrown said:
Pah.


Just 7 months old. Registered 4th Sept, listed on AT 13th Sept.
Flipping heck - Crazy crazy
it is indeed but I wonder how common this is with very high-value cars. IIRC there was an Aston that was £100k down from something like £250k with minimal miles and years. I may have the figs slightly wrong but i am pretty sure this isn't just a Taycan issue?

MDL111

6,975 posts

178 months

Friday 26th April
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Frimley111R said:
andy_ran said:
silentbrown said:
Pah.


Just 7 months old. Registered 4th Sept, listed on AT 13th Sept.
Flipping heck - Crazy crazy
it is indeed but I wonder how common this is with very high-value cars. IIRC there was an Aston that was £100k down from something like £250k with minimal miles and years. I may have the figs slightly wrong but i am pretty sure this isn't just a Taycan issue?
I just looked at a 296 in the classifieds with a 350k+ new price and now listed from - from memory - c 235k after 6k miles and c 2 years


PinkHouse

869 posts

58 months

Friday 26th April
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Frimley111R said:
andy_ran said:
silentbrown said:
Pah.


Just 7 months old. Registered 4th Sept, listed on AT 13th Sept.
Flipping heck - Crazy crazy
it is indeed but I wonder how common this is with very high-value cars. IIRC there was an Aston that was £100k down from something like £250k with minimal miles and years. I may have the figs slightly wrong but i am pretty sure this isn't just a Taycan issue?
The Aston was the V12 (New) Vantage which was initially listed at a ridiculous "overs" price but the Taycan has depreciated significantly from list

silentbrown

8,856 posts

117 months

Friday 26th April
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PinkHouse said:
The Aston was the V12 (New) Vantage which was initially listed at a ridiculous "overs" price but the Taycan has depreciated significantly from list
I think the £111k figure would be list. It's got £25k+ of options on it. Ex-demo?

CLK-GTR

708 posts

246 months

Friday 26th April
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MDL111 said:
I just looked at a 296 in the classifieds with a 350k+ new price and now listed from - from memory - c 235k after 6k miles and c 2 years
The common thread appears to be cars with less than desirable powerplants proving to be a tough sell. Ferrari are having a job shifting the V6 296s and the hybrid SF90s. The traditional V12 812 and Purosangue seemingly sell with no such trouble.

MDL111

6,975 posts

178 months

Friday 26th April
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CLK-GTR said:
MDL111 said:
I just looked at a 296 in the classifieds with a 350k+ new price and now listed from - from memory - c 235k after 6k miles and c 2 years
The common thread appears to be cars with less than desirable powerplants proving to be a tough sell. Ferrari are having a job shifting the V6 296s and the hybrid SF90s. The traditional V12 812 and Purosangue seemingly sell with no such trouble.
I generally agree, but I think the 296 is the prettiest car they built since the 355 (special version excluded) and I’d much rather buy one of those than an 812 )as I think it is not attractive). The V12 is much more special though obviously, just not in that body.
I’d be surprised if the Purosangue doesn’t start dropping quite substantially once the new model hype is over - there are already cars available close to list and some more slots becoming available - at least that is what I read somewhere

740EVTORQUES

397 posts

2 months

Friday 26th April
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MDL111 said:
CLK-GTR said:
MDL111 said:
I just looked at a 296 in the classifieds with a 350k+ new price and now listed from - from memory - c 235k after 6k miles and c 2 years
The common thread appears to be cars with less than desirable powerplants proving to be a tough sell. Ferrari are having a job shifting the V6 296s and the hybrid SF90s. The traditional V12 812 and Purosangue seemingly sell with no such trouble.
I generally agree, but I think the 296 is the prettiest car they built since the 355 (special version excluded) and I’d much rather buy one of those than an 812 )as I think it is not attractive). The V12 is much more special though obviously, just not in that body.
I’d be surprised if the Purosangue doesn’t start dropping quite substantially once the new model hype is over - there are already cars available close to list and some more slots becoming available - at least that is what I read somewhere
You'll have to beat me to it MDL, I agree the 296 is one of the prettiest modern Ferrari's and also virtually hypercar quick for not much more than used 488 prices. I've been eyeing up 488's but honestly the step up to a 296 makes more sense. The $64,000 question is, for £200K would it be a 296 or a 675LT?

MDL111

6,975 posts

178 months

Friday 26th April
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740EVTORQUES said:
You'll have to beat me to it MDL, I agree the 296 is one of the prettiest modern Ferrari's and also virtually hypercar quick for not much more than used 488 prices. I've been eyeing up 488's but honestly the step up to a 296 makes more sense. The $64,000 question is, for £200K would it be a 296 or a 675LT?
That is exactly the question I asked myself earlier today

The 675 is IMO a much safer place for your money due to production numbers, first LT model and it seems beloved by owners and possibly more fun to drive due to much lighter weight
I do think the 296 looks nicer though and at least in videos sounds nicer too (tbc in real life). It also has the advantage that at some point in the future it will likely still be allowed to drive into the city centre while non-hybrids might no longer be allowed (unless they are oldtimers… )
Been looking at used 296s in Germany for the last hour out of boredom ….