EVs and In Gear Acceleration vs ICE
Discussion
PushedDover said:
I can take the childishness a step further and raise you AF's previous Impreza. Quicker than even the McMurty EV. I'm sure he ran mid 7's on the quarter mile years ago with an H pattern box.
The pictured car is how it ended up as a Time Attack car.
VW ID.R?
Year Venue/Event Driver Time
2018 Pikes Peak International Hill Climb Romain Dumas 7:57.148
2019 Nürburgring Nordschleife Romain Dumas 6:05.336
2019 Goodwood Festival of Speed Hillclimb Romain Dumas 39.90
2019 Tianmen Mountain Romain Dumas 7:38.585
2020 Bilster Berg Dieter Depping 1:24.206
Year Venue/Event Driver Time
2018 Pikes Peak International Hill Climb Romain Dumas 7:57.148
2019 Nürburgring Nordschleife Romain Dumas 6:05.336
2019 Goodwood Festival of Speed Hillclimb Romain Dumas 39.90
2019 Tianmen Mountain Romain Dumas 7:38.585
2020 Bilster Berg Dieter Depping 1:24.206
M.F.D said:
PushedDover said:
I can take the childishness a step further and raise you AF's previous Impreza. Quicker than even the McMurty EV. I'm sure he ran mid 7's on the quarter mile years ago with an H pattern box.The pictured car is how it ended up as a Time Attack car.
For those with an engineering bent it's a really interesting interview with AF. What you will get from this is the commitment of a guy who developed this car over a number of years and continued development. For those sceptical of EVs we are at the beginning of this journey.
The McMurtry was 7.97 but that was the old model not the customer model now being developed. This is also designed as a track car not a specialist 1/4 miler. £900K + VAT, anyone?
Nomme de Plum said:
Best I could find was 7.7 seconds, here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oBfj_D9DGE
For those with an engineering bent it's a really interesting interview with AF. What you will get from this is the commitment of a guy who developed this car over a number of years and continued development. For those sceptical of EVs we are at the beginning of this journey.
The McMurtry was 7.97 but that was the old model not the customer model now being developed. This is also designed as a track car not a specialist 1/4 miler. £900K + VAT, anyone?
Well that was kind of my point, AF's cars are not straight line hero's either, and the crazy Westfield is road driven too.For those with an engineering bent it's a really interesting interview with AF. What you will get from this is the commitment of a guy who developed this car over a number of years and continued development. For those sceptical of EVs we are at the beginning of this journey.
The McMurtry was 7.97 but that was the old model not the customer model now being developed. This is also designed as a track car not a specialist 1/4 miler. £900K + VAT, anyone?
The McMurty is impressive though, and I have no doubt the new model will be quicker again.
Edited by M.F.D on Sunday 17th March 10:30
Sent into the stratosphere using some good old bad burny fuels.Terminator X said:
We did top trumps before I believe and petrol drag cars were top.
TX.
But they can't tow a caravan and the range is abysmal and let's not mention they don't work properly with normal fuel so limited places to refuel, they don't fit in a parking space and won't even fit the kids, dog and shopping.TX.
But apart from that.
PS I forgot to mention the turning circle.
The EV 0-60 times are indeed the most spoken about party piece.
But in the real world I find the 40-70mph sprint most useful, because that's what you need to pass quickly and safely if you find a dawdler on a b-road.
Put your foot down in most decent EV's and the biggest shove you'll experience is typically at around 40mph. I'd say that's the most useful speed to have access to such power - and an EV will easily beat any comparable ICE car at that speed.
ICE are generally quicker above 100mph, which is basically useless for a road car.
But in the real world I find the 40-70mph sprint most useful, because that's what you need to pass quickly and safely if you find a dawdler on a b-road.
Put your foot down in most decent EV's and the biggest shove you'll experience is typically at around 40mph. I'd say that's the most useful speed to have access to such power - and an EV will easily beat any comparable ICE car at that speed.
ICE are generally quicker above 100mph, which is basically useless for a road car.
TheDeuce said:
The EV 0-60 times are indeed the most spoken about party piece.
But in the real world I find the 40-70mph sprint most useful, because that's what you need to pass quickly and safely if you find a dawdler on a b-road.
Put your foot down in most decent EV's and the biggest shove you'll experience is typically at around 40mph. I'd say that's the most useful speed to have access to such power - and an EV will easily beat any comparable ICE car at that speed.
ICE are generally quicker above 100mph, which is basically useless for a road car.
It is difficult to argue with that in fairness. Although personally that would definitely frustrate me personally though, and Volvo got my back up when they started limiting their cars at 112mph for example. But in the real world I find the 40-70mph sprint most useful, because that's what you need to pass quickly and safely if you find a dawdler on a b-road.
Put your foot down in most decent EV's and the biggest shove you'll experience is typically at around 40mph. I'd say that's the most useful speed to have access to such power - and an EV will easily beat any comparable ICE car at that speed.
ICE are generally quicker above 100mph, which is basically useless for a road car.
I really enjoy being able to open the taps right up should the opportunity arise in fairness. However I'm definitely in the minority regarding that though I think(my missus won't go over a 100mph in any situation for example). Whereas I generally only start really concentrating at that speed in comparison.
cerb4.5lee said:
TheDeuce said:
The EV 0-60 times are indeed the most spoken about party piece.
But in the real world I find the 40-70mph sprint most useful, because that's what you need to pass quickly and safely if you find a dawdler on a b-road.
Put your foot down in most decent EV's and the biggest shove you'll experience is typically at around 40mph. I'd say that's the most useful speed to have access to such power - and an EV will easily beat any comparable ICE car at that speed.
ICE are generally quicker above 100mph, which is basically useless for a road car.
It is difficult to argue with that in fairness. Although personally that would definitely frustrate me personally though, and Volvo got my back up when they started limiting their cars at 112mph for example. But in the real world I find the 40-70mph sprint most useful, because that's what you need to pass quickly and safely if you find a dawdler on a b-road.
Put your foot down in most decent EV's and the biggest shove you'll experience is typically at around 40mph. I'd say that's the most useful speed to have access to such power - and an EV will easily beat any comparable ICE car at that speed.
ICE are generally quicker above 100mph, which is basically useless for a road car.
I really enjoy being able to open the taps right up should the opportunity arise in fairness. However I'm definitely in the minority regarding that though I think(my missus won't go over a 100mph in any situation for example). Whereas I generally only start really concentrating at that speed in comparison.
But honestly, where do you drive at over 100 on the open roads?? There's one very well sighted b-road near me that I can average about 70 on and when it opens up onto an old stretch of laser straight Roman road, it's very easy to pass 100 briefly without giving it much thought... But it risks the license and honestly I'd rather have higher acceleration and lesser too speed as a preference - it's more exciting and ultimately safer.
Where are you routinely enjoying north of 100mph..?
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