RE: PistonHeads at Le Mans Classic

[Cotty]

Mk2Ed said:

Out of interest the list mentions Lotus (all models) but would it incorporate a Cortina Lotus which all intents and purposes is a Ford:

The Mk1 is a Lotus Cortina, built by Lotus.
The Mk2 is a Cortina Lotus, built by Ford.

[anonymous-user]

Garlick said:

We mentioned in the article that certain non-classics were able to take part in the parade. Those cars are detailed below:

ABARTH - all models

AC - all models

ALFA ROMEO - Coupés Bertone : tous / all
- Giulia Spider Duetto
- 33 Stradale
- Junior Z
- Montreal
- SZ-RZ(1990/1994)
- 8C / 8C Spider

ALPINE - tous modèles / all models

ASTON MARTIN - tous modèles / all models

AUDI - Quattro Coupé
- R8 / R8 Spider

AUSTIN - all models pre 75 - Austin, Marcos, Innocenti, Riley, Wolseley

AUSTIN HEALEY - all models

BENTLEY - all models

BMW - 1602 à / to 2002
- 2800CS /M1
- 30CS / CSI / CSL
- M635 CS
- Z1

BUGATTI - all models

CATERHAM - all models

CG - all models

CHEVROLET - Corvette

CITROËN - SM

DATSUN - 240Z – 260Z – 280Z

DE TOMASO - all models

DONKERVOORT - all models

FERRARI - all models

FIAT - Dino Coupé & Spider
- 124 Coupé & Spider
- 850 Coupé Sport & Spider

FORD - Capri jusqu'à / until 1973
- Escort RS jusqu'à / until 1975
- Twin Cam jusqu'à / until 1975
- GT

GLAS - all models

GUMPERT - Apollo

HONDA - NSX – 600 / 800 Series

ISO - all models

JAGUAR - Type E - Mark X – 420 – XJC – XJ – XKR

JIDE - all sportscars

JENSEN - all models

KTM - X-Bow

KOENIGSEGG - Agera – Agera R

LAMBORGHINI - all models

LANCIA - Fulvia
- Beta Coupé & Cabriolet
- Stratos
- Monte Carlo – 037
- Delta Intégrale (1992)

LEXUS - LFA

LIGIER - JS 1 / JS 2

LOTUS - all models

MARCADIER - all sportscars

MASERATI - all models

MATRA - 530
- Murena
- Bagheera

MAZDA - Mx5 – Rx7 – Rx8

MERCEDES - Coupés & Cabriolets Pagode
- SL R107 / SLS / Mclaren SLR

MG - all Coupés & Cabriolets

MORGAN - all models

NISSAN - GT-R

NSU - 1000 / 1200 TT
- Spider wankel
- R80

OPEL - Speedster

PAGANI - all models

PEUGEOT - 204-304-504 Coupés / Cabriolets

PORSCHE - all models until 997-type inclusive

RENAULT - R8 Gordini / R12 Gordini
- R5 Alpine / Turbo 1 & Turbo 2
- Spider

SIMCA - 1000 & 1200S Coupés

SOVAM - all sportscars

TESLA - Roadster

TOYOTA - 2000 GT / 2000 GT Spider

TRIUMPH - all Coupés & Cabriolet

TVR - all models

VENTURI - all models

VOLVO - P1800

WIESMANN - all models

So you can't take your Vauxhall VX220 around but you can if it's badged as a Opel Speedster

[spanishchocolate]

I'm sure that's just an oversight/the term is used inclusively. If the list had been drawn up by a British company, for a British event - and VXs were allowed, I wouldn't expect to see Opel Speedster on the list. Anyway, I'm taking my VX220 round

Edited by spanishchocolate on Thursday 12th January 21:49

[Mk2Ed]

Mk2Ed said:

dave stew said:

Garlick said:

We mentioned in the article that certain non-classics were able to take part in the parade. Those cars are detailed below:


FORD - Capri jusqu'à / until 1973
- Escort RS jusqu'à / until 1975
- Twin Cam jusqu'à / until 1975
- GT

Wot - no Mark 2 RS Escorts??

Yep, big shame, I'd have loved to take mine around, it loves a track:

Hmm I'd like to understand the rationale behind ruling on those able to take part in the Parade, especially given that cars competed in the race between 1923 and 1979. Extending the parade to incorporate performance classics up to 1979 should take precedence over those more modern cars (so post 1979) of certain marques. Smacks of a clique to me...

[Roop]

Mk2Ed said:

Hmm I'd like to understand the rationale behind ruling on those able to take part in the Parade, especially given that cars competed in the race between 1923 and 1979. Extending the parade to incorporate performance classics up to 1979 should take precedence over those more modern cars (so post 1979) of certain marques. Smacks of a clique to me...

Le Mans is one big clique. Quite a good one, but a clique nonetheless. Your car had to be either old or have the right badge, or both. It's a case of if your face doesn't fit.

[Mk2Ed]

Clique is fine with me I'd just like to take one of my vehicles on track and the RS will fare much better than the camper

[Roop]

Mk2Ed said:

Clique is fine with me I'd just like to take one of my vehicles on track and the RS will fare much better than the camper

Me too. I'd take the RS500 if it was eligible. As it is, will go in the Focus and leave the classic at home...

[Mark B]

Most of the track controllers haven't got a scooby about cars anyways, I saw plenty of cars lapping last time that weren't on the happy few list but got past the marshalls.

It's no clique, the list is put together to incorporate manufacturers that have a long history of competing at Le Mans and then working on excluding some of the models. If they let all Ford's on for example, it would allow god knows what on track from a Ka to a Transit. So, something like Lotus, Ferrari, Porsche have a long history with the race and all models are of interest to motoring enthusiasts, hence all models allowed.

[Mk2Ed]

Mark B said:

Most of the track controllers haven't got a scooby about cars anyways, I saw plenty of cars lapping last time that weren't on the happy few list but got past the marshalls.

It's no clique, the list is put together to incorporate manufacturers that have a long history of competing at Le Mans and then working on excluding some of the models. If they let all Ford's on for example, it would allow god knows what on track from a Ka to a Transit. So, something like Lotus, Ferrari, Porsche have a long history with the race and all models are of interest to motoring enthusiasts, hence all models allowed.

Good reasoning - I agree, who wants to see a Ka going round or any other non-descript modern machinery, it's the up to 1979 rule for me but then I have got a vested interest...

[Mark B]

I would be confident you'd get on in an RS Escort... After all, they did have RS Capri's and I think Mk1 Escorts that raced

[Mk2Ed]

Hi yes the works Ford Capri RS 2600's competed in the 1972 Le Mans.



Unfortunately no Escorts ever competed in Le Mans Zakspeed or otherwise although it's general motorsport pedigree is so long and varied you could write a 'war and peace' on it...;)

[lezdix]

Dolls firmly ejected from the pram: No Ginettas. I'll take the Mazda 6 and tow my (pre 1979) folding caravan