new honda lmp2 car.

new honda lmp2 car.

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Roverload

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136 months

Monday 15th December 2014
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Lol, go ahead. I've been stuck with this name for too long, I've been on here for longer than it says under my name, not sure why, if I could change it I would!

Great Dane

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166 months

Monday 15th December 2014
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Red Firecracker said:
Not forgetting the Alpine;


No 36 Signatech Alpine A450b - Nissan LMP2, FIA WEC Le Mans 24 Hours 2014 by Red Firecracker, on Flickr

which I think Sam Collins has said still has the Courage chassis plate in it/them.

Interestingly with regards to the Ligier chassis, TDS have just sold theirs, they being unhappy with it, maybe echoing G-Drives, or at least Roman Rusinov's, comments on reliability concerns.
brakes are big problem on the Ligier


alpine is all but name an oreca 03

Interestingly a current p2 driver, who has driven both the Morgan and the Oreca,answered when asked by me which one he preferred: "I'll take the Oreca any day!"


Edited by Great Dane on Monday 15th December 17:36

Great Dane

2,723 posts

166 months

Monday 15th December 2014
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New cars (plus Ligier) being lined up are: Gibson (new name for Zytek), Oreca, SMP, HPD, Ligier, Wolf (constructor from CN),Tiga and and

Red Firecracker

5,276 posts

227 months

Monday 15th December 2014
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Plus of course the Dome, which really does have to perform next year.

Great Dane

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166 months

Monday 15th December 2014
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Red Firecracker said:
Plus of course the Dome, which really does have to perform next year.
Oops of course...

Some Gump

12,688 posts

186 months

Monday 15th December 2014
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I hope Dome do well, I always liked them for some reason - possibly because their press releases were so mental?

VladD

7,855 posts

265 months

Tuesday 16th December 2014
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Roverload said:
Lol, go ahead. I've been stuck with this name for too long, I've been on here for longer than it says under my name, not sure why, if I could change it I would!
You can change it. My Info -> Profile

//j17

4,480 posts

223 months

Tuesday 16th December 2014
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Red Firecracker said:
Plus of course the Dome, which really does have to perform next year.
Shame the Strakker guys weren't able to get out at all this year.

Red Firecracker

5,276 posts

227 months

Tuesday 16th December 2014
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//j17 said:
Shame the Strakker guys weren't able to get out at all this year.
It could do Strakka good, as the extra development time is always handy one would think and they were nearly at Brazil, just a foul up with the homologation of the head restraints causing issues. However, one does have to wonder at Dome's processes if it got to that stage in the development and there was a fundamental issue like that, requiring re-design of the doors/door mechanism into the bargain.

Red Firecracker

5,276 posts

227 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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The Acura LMP project was entirely a Honda USA initiative/run project with Wirth, HPD being the Honda USA run and conceived competition arm (Acura was the designated badged manufacturer/constructor, HPD the powertrain supplier). One suspects it has the blessing of Honda Japan, but is left to do its own thing for the most part and do it very well it does, the amount of HPD engines in Indy etc proving that.

It suits Honda's business model, it seems, as you just need to look back to the Mugen Formula 1 engines.

eastlmark

1,654 posts

207 months

Sunday 21st December 2014
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PW said:
Some Gump said:
I've never quite understood why Honda use the HPD name for LM
I assume they are operating under the notion that the specific audience tuning in to watch prototype racing is well aware of the Honda brand, but probably not so familiar with HPD...

Some Gump said:
I didn't even realise HPD was any way linked to Honda.
Presumably there is a good reason why they want to promote HPD; maybe they want to increase their presence in lower levels of motorsport in the US, and steal some market share from Mazda.
pretty sure manufacturer works teams are not allowed in LMP2, right? If Honda made and named the car, they would have to sell chassis to private teams to run it.

Red Firecracker

5,276 posts

227 months

Sunday 21st December 2014
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The pertinent question is how close to the cost cap are they produced for, rather than sold for?

eastlmark

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207 months

Sunday 21st December 2014
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PW said:
eastlmark said:
If Honda made and named the car, they would have to sell chassis to private teams to run it.
Not sure I understand your point in relation to what you quoted, but yes that is exactly the case.

HPD, a wholly owned subsidiary of Honda, made and named the car and have sold, so far, two chassis to Extreme Speed Motorsport to run them.
sorry, just trying make it clear why there is never going to be a works Honda LMP2 project at Le mans as seems to be suggested in parts of this thread.


Great Dane

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166 months

Sunday 21st December 2014
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eastlmark said:
sorry, just trying make it clear why there is never going to be a works Honda LMP2 project at Le mans as seems to be suggested in parts of this thread.

Designed by Nick Wirth of Simtek F1 fame. He also modified the Courage C70/75 to make in HPD arx

Matt Harper

6,618 posts

201 months

Friday 2nd January 2015
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