Nismo GT-R LMP1

[H100S]

This car was fastest through the speed traps this morning. 208 Mph.

[The Wolf]

H100S said:

This car was fastest through the speed traps this morning. 208 Mph.

But slower than about 15 LMP2 cars...
Doesn't look good tbh

[Country5]

The Wolf said:

But slower than about 15 LMP2 cars...
Doesn't look good tbh

30 secs slower than the leading LMP1, were they stoping at the Chinese on the mulsanne picking up takeaway?

[vincegail]

How they got to that topspeed is a complete enigma to me because their accelleration was pretty abysmal. They needed the complete pitstraight to overtake a Ferrari 458 after the Ford chicane....

[Country5]

vincegail said:

How they got to that topspeed is a complete enigma to me because their accelleration was pretty abysmal. They needed the complete pitstraight to overtake a Ferrari 458 after the Ford chicane....

Must be the lack of hyrbrid?

[OvalOwl]

The speed trap is before the braking point for the first chicane, so there is a long run down from Tertre Rouge to get up to speed.

[#] Team / Car / Class / Driver / Top Speed / Lap / Session

23 Nissan Motorsports Nissan GT-R LM Nismo LMP1 H Olivier PLA 336.0 12 Test Practice 1
1 Toyota Racing Toyota TS 040 - Hybrid LMP1 H Kazuki NAKAJIMA 334.9 13 Test Practice 2
2 Toyota Racing Toyota TS 040 - Hybrid LMP1 H Mike CONWAY 333.9 31 Test Practice 2
22 Nissan Motorsports Nissan GT-R LM Nismo LMP1 H Michael KRUMM 333.9 10 Test Practice 1
7 Audi Sport Team Joest Audi R18 e-tron quattro LMP1 H André LOTTERER 332.9 14 Test Practice 1
8 Audi Sport Team Joest Audi R18 e-tron quattro LMP1 H Lucas DI GRASSI 332.9 6 Test Practice 1
9 Audi Sport Team Joest Audi R18 e-tron quattro LMP1 H Marco BONANOMI 332.9 7 Test Practice 1
12 Rebellion Racing Rebellion R-One - AER LMP1 Mathias BECHE 328.8 9 Test Practice 1
17 Porsche Team Porsche 919 Hybrid LMP1 H Brendon HARTLEY 326.8 2 Test Practice 2
18 Porsche Team Porsche 919 Hybrid LMP1 H Romain DUMAS 325.8 5 Test Practice 2
19 Porsche Team Porsche 919 Hybrid LMP1 H Earl BAMBER 325.8 14 Test Practice 1
13 Rebellion Racing Rebellion R-One - AER LMP1 Dominik KRAIHAMER 323.9 5 Test Practice 2
43 Team Sard Morand Morgan Evo - SARD LMP2 Zoel AMBERG 308.2 12 Test Practice 1
4 Team Bykolles CLM P1/01 - AER LMP1 Simon TRUMMER 307.3 7 Test Practice 1
21 Nissan Motorsports Nissan GT-R LM Nismo LMP1 H Lucas ORDOÑEZ 307.3 8 Test Practice 1

[ecsrobin]

Country5 said:

vincegail said:

How they got to that topspeed is a complete enigma to me because their accelleration was pretty abysmal. They needed the complete pitstraight to overtake a Ferrari 458 after the Ford chicane....

Must be the lack of hyrbrid?

My understanding is all manufacturer teams must run Hybrid, how have Nissan got round this?

[Vocal Minority]

By carrying it around, but not using it.

Sorry to say it Looks a total pig in the slow corners!

[ecsrobin]

+24 seconds a lap agrees with you!

[RobGT81]

[Roverload]

Testing now seeing constant improvement. Still no ERS nipping at the heels of LMP1 times set at COTA last weekend. I think 2016 will be a good year for Nissan at Le Mans.

http://www.dailysportscar.com/2015/09/25/more-indu...

[Red Firecracker]

To be clear, LMP1-L times, not the factory hybrids, so at the moment it's snapping at the heels of the Rebellions and the ByKolles car, as you'd expect.

Will be interesting to see what/how much of an improvement they get when the hybrid is installed and also if it introduces any more unforeseen issues elsewhere.

[Some Gump]

To be fair, with 30% less fuel than the rebellions, that's not bad going. Remember that Oreca isn't a bad chassis - totally dominating P2 with essentially the same design..

[Red Firecracker]

Some Gump said:

To be fair, with 30% less fuel than the rebellions, that's not bad going. Remember that Oreca isn't a bad chassis - totally dominating P2 with essentially the same design..

Although there is no telling the fuel level of the GTR, of course, it being testing. Quite agree, the Oreca isn't a bad package and will be better next season once they are really familiar with the engine, but they should be on totally different planes.

[Off topic] The ByKolles CLM has now beaten the Rebellions in the past two races, now that is news worthy considering where that car was at Silverstone, but of course, they're not trendy enough for the media unfortunately, only as something to mock. LMP1-L is finally becoming a competitive battleground, even more so when Strakka join in.

Edited by Red Firecracker on Monday 28th September 18:44 - Suddenly realised content of Oreca chassis was wrong. ISN'T bad not IS!

Edited by Red Firecracker on Monday 28th September 18:45

[RobGT81]

Red Firecracker said:

[Off topic] The ByKolles CLM has now beaten the Rebellions in the past two races, now that is news worthy considering where that car was at Silverstone, but of course, they're not trendy enough for the media unfortunately, only as something to mock. LMP1-L is finally becoming a competitive battleground, even more so when Strakka join in.

Yeah great results for ByKolles. They don't seem to be a favourite of RLM so don't seem to get the coverage that Rebellion do sadly.

[Output Flange]

RobGT81 said:

Yeah great results for ByKolles. They don't seem to be a favourite of RLM so don't seem to get the coverage that Rebellion do sadly.

That's the downside of having Colin Kolles as a named part of the team, I guess.

[icepop]

Don't wan't to get slammed here, as I would love to see Nissan do really well at LM, but why, considering the size of their enterprise, and know-how, are they having so much hassle getting the LMP-1 technology to work. Their budget must be up there with AUDI/PORSCHE/TOYOTA, and way ahead of the other tiny teams. It can't be secret, what the others re doing, can it, and their engineers must be as good, if not better.

[RobGT81]

icepop said:

Their budget must be up there with AUDI/PORSCHE/TOYOTA, and way ahead of the other tiny teams. It can't be secret, what the others re doing, can it, and their engineers must be as good, if not better.

I don't think their budget is anywhere near Audi and Porsche, possibly closer to Toyota.

They lost all their excuses though, when they came wading in telling everyone how quick they were going to be.

[Red Firecracker]

icepop said:

Don't wan't to get slammed here, as I would love to see Nissan do really well at LM, but why, considering the size of their enterprise, and know-how, are they having so much hassle getting the LMP-1 technology to work. Their budget must be up there with AUDI/PORSCHE/TOYOTA, and way ahead of the other tiny teams. It can't be secret, what the others re doing, can it, and their engineers must be as good, if not better.

Probably because it is just so different. Budgets are not massive for everyone, certainly Toyota is reportedly way way behind the other two LMP1 teams hence the lack of a third car. It isn't just about size of budget, there is an awful lot of knowledge that say Audi have stored away purely due to the amount of experience they have. Money can buy that, but it comes with time and a concerted multi-year commitment to spending that money each time.

The component parts each work, that is known, it's just that they do not seem to work as a cohesive package as yet when all joined together, for whatever reason, be that intrinsic design issues or just lack of time/testing. Nissan's main problem isn't the car, it's the PR BS surrounding it. The lack of racing in the early rounds has a valid excuse, to compete at Silverstone and Spa they would have needed to homologate the chassis and combining that with the upgrades required after the curtailed Sebring test, there just wasn't time. To miss the later races is harder for Nissan to honestly explain, for me, although it will come down to an unwillingness to homologate the car and thus lock in the design. If they do that now, next year is a write off.

[RobGT81]

Not a massive surprise, Silverstone 2016 it is!

http://www.dailysportscar.com/2015/10/01/nissan-lm...