Nismo GT-R LMP1

Nismo GT-R LMP1

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Red Firecracker

5,276 posts

227 months

Friday 2nd October 2015
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RobGT81 said:
Not a massive surprise, Silverstone 2016 it is!

http://www.dailysportscar.com/2015/10/01/nissan-lm...
If it makes the Prologue...

RobGT81

5,229 posts

186 months

Friday 2nd October 2015
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Autosport said:
"The first dyno tests are expected before the end of the year and it will then do a complete dyno cycle before it goes in the car."
The powertrain needs to be in the front of the car now, putting miles on the whole vehicle. Can't help but thinking they are leaving it too late again.

Mezzanine

9,211 posts

219 months

Saturday 3rd October 2015
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Going to be out of date/regulation by the time they get it finished!

Output Flange

16,798 posts

211 months

Friday 30th October 2015
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And now Darren Cox has parted ways with Nissan....

Some Gump

12,688 posts

186 months

Friday 30th October 2015
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Which is a pity, I liked him. I realise some people will be all "but LMP1 was a fail", and overlook Nismo GT Acadmy,but that's a game changer in the sport. Nissan have dominated LMP2, have the LMP3 engine, wins in N24, Blancpain, GT500, etc etc.

I'm just hoping that the "Leaving the Navy to become a Pirate" is some sort of twiter clue as to his next destination... Proton to buy Lotus rumour FTW?

RobGT81

5,229 posts

186 months

Tuesday 22nd December 2015
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Output Flange

16,798 posts

211 months

Tuesday 22nd December 2015
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I'm wearing my International Surprised Face.

Some Gump

12,688 posts

186 months

Tuesday 22nd December 2015
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Pity, but I've got more respect for them because they tried and failed than any of the guys that didn't even try.

Output Flange

16,798 posts

211 months

Tuesday 22nd December 2015
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I want to agree with you.

Have you seen the video of the boxer who gives it the full Billy-Big-Potatoes on his way to the ring, goading the crowd, high-fiving everyone and then squaring up to his opponent - an opponent who walked quietly to the ring, took of his gown and waited patiently - who then knocks him out with the first punch?

It feels a bit like that.

DS240

4,672 posts

218 months

Tuesday 22nd December 2015
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I did think (and hope) they'd come back with a heavily reworked effort for next year to see how they'd get on.

Was it so flawed it wasn't worth the effort?.... Or... now a case of, can't be bothered?

I wonder if they did any extra work on it and still found it wouldn't do what they hoped it might.

Oh well, maybe they'll be back with something more convention in the future.

So now only porsche, audi with 2 cars each and Toyota. Hopefully Toyota can up their pace for a 3 way fight. Looking a bit thin in LMP 1 now.

Output Flange

16,798 posts

211 months

Tuesday 22nd December 2015
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The hybrid system was significantly worse than expected (spectacular fails on the bench apparently) plus the rear body failed the FIA crash test.

I wonder if Renault splurging out on F1 has anything to do with it too...

FredericRobinson

3,694 posts

232 months

Tuesday 22nd December 2015
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That's at least 5 fewer P1 cars for Le Mans next year, and I don't think Rebellion are confirmed yet? 2 more garages too, could be a lot of P2s in the race.

Red Firecracker

5,276 posts

227 months

Wednesday 23rd December 2015
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Porsche North America will probably get their two IMSA GTEs in without problem now and maybe an extra Ford DP, sorry, GT. Plus, there is a confirmed Garage 56 entry next year.

SimoN138

207 posts

232 months

Wednesday 23rd December 2015
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that's a real shame.

the body was off when i went down to the pit walk at LM this year and i remember thinking that the cars looked unbelievably complex 'under the bonnet' ... not like most race cars which are beautifully neat and structured inside. i guess that was an indication of the complexity of what they were trying to achieve.

hope it doesn't deter other manufacturers from trying to do something different in the future

and perhaps Nissan did shoot themselves in the foot a bit with the mega PR effort ...

24lemons

2,648 posts

185 months

Wednesday 23rd December 2015
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SimoN138 said:
that's a real shame.

the body was off when i went down to the pit walk at LM this year and i remember thinking that the cars looked unbelievably complex 'under the bonnet' ... not like most race cars which are beautifully neat and structured inside. i guess that was an indication of the complexity of what they were trying to achieve.
Funnily enough the same thought occurred to me when I was exploring the 'Forza Vista' feature on Forza Motorsport 6. Beneath the bodywork was a mass of wiring which looked so messy and complex compared to other cars I've seen.

marcosgt

11,018 posts

176 months

Thursday 24th December 2015
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24lemons said:
Funnily enough the same thought occurred to me when I was exploring the 'Forza Vista' feature on Forza Motorsport 6. Beneath the bodywork was a mass of wiring which looked so messy and complex compared to other cars I've seen.
Perhaps less a reflection on the concept than the state of development.

I'm disappointed it will never be fully developed and raced, but equally not at all surprised by this point.

I hope Bowlby isn't fatally damaged, career wise, by this as I believe the motorsport world needs someone as imaginative as him...

I guess we have to hope that Toyota have upped their game and/or that VAG's current emission woes will hamper their programmes enough to have some decent racing this year or we could be looking at 3.5L Group C all over again...

M

//j17

4,479 posts

223 months

Thursday 24th December 2015
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marcosgt said:
I guess we have to hope that Toyota have upped their game and/or that VAG's current emission woes will hamper their programmes enough to have some decent racing this year...
While there isn't enough money down the back of a sofa for 3 cars at next year's Le Mans there's still enough for Audi to be testing the 2016 R18 at Sebring at the start of the month.

bsdnazz

762 posts

253 months

Monday 28th December 2015
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Output Flange said:
The hybrid system was significantly worse than expected (spectacular fails on the bench apparently) plus the rear body failed the FIA crash test.

I wonder if Renault splurging out on F1 has anything to do with it too...
The lack of a decent hybrid power system does seem to have killed of this project.

I guess if Nissan don't have a working hybrid system they cannot even do a conventional LMP1 car.

Red Firecracker

5,276 posts

227 months

Monday 28th December 2015
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bsdnazz said:
The lack of a decent hybrid power system does seem to have killed of this project.

I guess if Nissan don't have a working hybrid system they cannot even do a conventional LMP1 car.
As a manufacturer they have to enter the LMP1-H category.

The initial flybrid system didn't achieve the desired figures, but did reportedly achieve some spectacular failures on the bench. The new Renault system seemingly underperformed and required a redesign of the rear end, which subsequently failed a mandatory crash test, meaning yet another redesign, which it seems Nissan were unwilling to sign off on as they'd have been in the same position as 2015, developing the car at the same time as racing it with all the potential nastiness that entails.