First time Le Mans tips

First time Le Mans tips

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jonby

5,357 posts

157 months

Wednesday 6th May 2015
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JT3K said:
Fixed cameras are now able to send fines to the UK and they time you between toll booths.
Great Post

Couple of questions about the statement above. Since when do they time you between toll booths as I've regularly done very fast times between them historically and always thought it an urban myth that the info is used to prove speeding. Also, presumably fines sent to the UK are unenforceable, i.e. if you don't pay, nothing further happens ? Again, a new thing ? It's news to me, although I've recognised it will come in eventually

The only thing I'd add of importance to your 'things to do' is lunch in La Chartre Sur le Loir, outside Hotel De France, on the Friday - always one of my LM24 highlights, great drive down, top place to visit and the square is always full of interesting cars & people





Edited by jonby on Wednesday 6th May 11:42

OvalOwl

924 posts

131 months

Wednesday 6th May 2015
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jonby said:
JT3K said:
Fixed cameras are now able to send fines to the UK and they time you between toll booths.
Great Post

Couple of questions about the statement above. Since when do they time you between toll booths as I've regularly done very fast times between them historically and always thought it an urban myth that the info is used to prove speeding. Also, presumably fines sent to the UK are unenforceable, i.e. if you don't pay, nothing further happens ? Again, a new thing ? It's news to me, although I've recognised it will come in eventually.
As I understand it new arrangements are due to come in today (May 6th) where convictions and fines will be dealt with by the home country of the driver. The previous arrangements were based on the wrong part of European Law. However the UK, along with Ireland and Denmark, initially opted out (like they did previouly) but they will be bringing them in by 2017. So until then if you are flashed by a fixed camera it will go no further, but if they catch you in person with a mobile camera or "les flics" they can clobber you with an on the spot fine or worse.

//j17

4,477 posts

223 months

Wednesday 6th May 2015
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The Leaper said:
//j17,

It's been a good few years since my last visit to the Stella Bar at TR. How does one get there now following the may changes at TR that have been done over the years?

R.
From the TR end of the 'inside' viewing area drop down to the road and turn left, under the track and ta-da! If you're 'outside' then you need to take the foot tunnel+ under the track to the inside.



+ That's the new, clean and lit foot tunnel under the track that replaced the old pitch-black, urine-scented tunnel of shame smile

jonby

5,357 posts

157 months

Wednesday 6th May 2015
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OvalOwl said:
jonby said:
JT3K said:
Fixed cameras are now able to send fines to the UK and they time you between toll booths.
Great Post

Couple of questions about the statement above. Since when do they time you between toll booths as I've regularly done very fast times between them historically and always thought it an urban myth that the info is used to prove speeding. Also, presumably fines sent to the UK are unenforceable, i.e. if you don't pay, nothing further happens ? Again, a new thing ? It's news to me, although I've recognised it will come in eventually.
As I understand it new arrangements are due to come in today (May 6th) where convictions and fines will be dealt with by the home country of the driver. The previous arrangements were based on the wrong part of European Law. However the UK, along with Ireland and Denmark, initially opted out (like they did previouly) but they will be bringing them in by 2017. So until then if you are flashed by a fixed camera it will go no further, but if they catch you in person with a mobile camera or "les flics" they can clobber you with an on the spot fine or worse.
That sounds more like what I understood - I've been clobbered plenty over the years in person, but as you say, my understanding is that we opted out of exchanging info until at least next year or the year after and who knows what might change/develop by then

There is also as yet, as I understand it, no mechanism for points between the UK and Europe - points under a French system are not relevant so unless countries bring their respective points systems into line with each other, I don't really see how it can be anything other than a fine once (if) they do bring the new system in to include the UK. Unless your suggestion of 'convictions' is that the UK authorities will look at the speed and the speed limit, then apply UK penalty points based on same ?

OvalOwl

924 posts

131 months

Wednesday 6th May 2015
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What I meant by 'convictions' was that the UK courts would levy the fines and come after you if you didn't pay. Harmonisation of points on licences is a future option.

JamieBurford

182 posts

130 months

Wednesday 13th May 2015
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Steve Maund said:
DO NOT EAT RED SAUSAGES!!!!!!!!!
I'm looking forward to a merguez!

ellroy

7,027 posts

225 months

Wednesday 13th May 2015
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They don't time you between the booths, common rumour that comes up year after year.

As has been mentioned Les Flics lase cars, I've generally spotted them, they like you to have a decent long downhill run towards them and their usually on the embankment of a bridge, and then they radio to their mates which can be a chase bike, or Subaru, or alternatively they wait at the next peage where you stop.

The latter method is why people seem to think they've been timed, they've not they've been lased on route.

Either way keep to 80-85mph and you make decent progress and no one's bothered.

Truckosaurus

11,249 posts

284 months

Wednesday 13th May 2015
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Truck's Top Tips:

- Bring a bog roll with you, although the situation has much improved since the cleaning was outsourced a few years ago.
- Use a supermarket that isn't the Carrefour at Centre Sud as that's the most overcrowded one. There's a big Super-U and a little backstreet supermarket (seems to be a different brand every year) in Arnage.
- Another option for Friday is to go down to Chartre sur le loir and have a drink at the Hotel de France.
- Getting to town on the tram is quick and easy.
- Impress waiters by telling the 'Spanish Coffee' joke, they love it.
- Eat the Merguez, Leave the Andouille.
- Buy carrier bags of ice from the fish counter.
- Beware the Franz Klamer toilets.
- Shower when the sunshine wakes you up and go back to bed = no queues and hot water
- Walk down to the Arnage corner, takes about an hour but is on the level so a fairly easy walk - just follow the queue of cars.
- Trying to make cunning short cuts to avoid traffic jams around the circuit never works, you'll always end up at the back of yet another queue.

Superhoop

4,676 posts

193 months

Wednesday 13th May 2015
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If this is your first Le Mans, don't try and do everything - There'll be plenty of time to do the stuff you didn't do this year, when you go back next year, the year after that, the year after that...........

Vette_1978

3,235 posts

222 months

Thursday 14th May 2015
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I'm not sure if this stand is still there in the Village, but if it is, the Grand Marnier crepes at about 4am are an absolute joy to behold!!!!

The go-karts on the old wooden floor are also a real treat. Although I've heard the fair has moved from Dunlop to Karting so not sure we'll find them this year. The potential for whiplash was always amazing, especially when then swing out the wooden stopper and you pile into the back of a sationary kart at full pelt.

I also lost a wallet one year on the dodgems, realised as soon as I got off but by then the s running the stand had got the wallet. They removed the cash and gave me back the wallet claiming they just found it...really....itchy beard.....

Try to have enough beer tokens on you before entering the Village as the cash machine always seemed to be doing a roaring trade with long queues.

24lemons

2,645 posts

185 months

Thursday 14th May 2015
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Vette_1978 said:
I'm not sure if this stand is still there in the Village, but if it is, the Grand Marnier crepes at about 4am are an absolute joy to behold!!!!
/\/\ This 1000 times! There's nothing like a late night crepe!

//j17

4,477 posts

223 months

Thursday 14th May 2015
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Ahh, the memories of going out to watch the sub rise at Arnage, then grabbing a GM crepe at 7am wandering back to camp.

gt6

1,424 posts

185 months

Thursday 14th May 2015
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i would heartily recommend the GM crepes, in the old days you could pour large amounts of GM on from huge bottles on the stall but i think they restrict the amount these days, but they are still are real part of the le mans experience

24lemons

2,645 posts

185 months

Thursday 14th May 2015
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gt6 said:
i would heartily recommend the GM crepes, in the old days you could pour large amounts of GM on from huge bottles on the stall but i think they restrict the amount these days, but they are still are real part of the le mans experience
They didnt seem to mind me drowning my crepe in GM last year

cja

111 posts

130 months

Thursday 14th May 2015
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24lemons said:
/\/\ This 1000 times! There's nothing like a late night crepe!
Does this relate to the 'must have a bog roll' post, too?? wink

24lemons

2,645 posts

185 months

Thursday 14th May 2015
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cja said:
24lemons said:
/\/\ This 1000 times! There's nothing like a late night crepe!
Does this relate to the 'must have a bog roll' post, too?? wink
If you choose to eat the Merguez then yes! I love them but a couple of years back I was glad to have brought immodium with me! I just cook them until they are slightly blackened.

a.christie

262 posts

276 months

Thursday 14th May 2015
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Mmmnnnnn.... cooked imodium

cja

111 posts

130 months

Thursday 14th May 2015
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Merguez are ok - in moderation! The only thing, I find, is that you're never really sure how they are going to react....... yikes

24lemons

2,645 posts

185 months

Thursday 14th May 2015
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a.christie said:
Mmmnnnnn.... cooked imodium
Hmm I should have proof read that!

peterz3

64 posts

107 months

Thursday 14th May 2015
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Beermounting is also a good site for tips, this will be my 6 trip only this time i will be in my z3 rather than my robinhood, its a good tip to take some food incase your too late to shop in arnarge
peterz3