What's the best way to keep beer cool en campsite?
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jamiebae said:
eps said:
jamiebae said:
We tend to go for a cool box, filled to the brim with cold water and add 2-4kg of ice to it each day. When you take a bottle you put another one in and depending on the weather it stays cold for 24 hours. The main problem is Sunday, we do a supermarket trip each morning for fresh meat and bread, and buy ice then but on Sunday morning that tends not to happen. As a result Sunday evenings are normally fueled by warm Leffe and maybe some red wine,
Isn't filling it with water causing you an issue? we tend to empty out any water which is created as the ice melts.eps said:
Q. What do you put in your car radiator to take the heat away....?
I can see where you are going with this. .. But, the water has a high thermal conductivity to take heat from the engine and to the radiator where air cools it quickly by flowing across the fins. If the water was stationary it would boil rather rapidly. In a coolbox the high thermal conductivity of the water will chill the beer quicker. It also increases the surface area in contact with the beer.
Then water has a higher heat capacity and density than air which means it takes more energy to raise the temperature of water by 1 degree than the same volume of air. Its energy transfer from outside to in which heats it up.
You could try wrapping the coolbox in foil. . Shiny side out to reflect IR radiation.
Lastly keep the cool box covered in wet towels. Latent heat of evaporation will reduce the internal temperature by 5 degrees.. slowing the rate of ice melt.
To make the coldness last longer run a 2 stage cooling process... pre cool from the box by submerging in fresh tap water which will get the temp down from 20+ to about 12 degrees (average ground temp which the water pipes will pass thru). Then after about 20 minutes they can transfer to the 1 degree icy water.
1 final thought.. buy an ice maker
Edited by TransverseTight on Friday 29th May 22:46
Stand cans or bottles in a shallow basin of water with a wet towel draped over the top with the ends of the towel in the water. The sun evaporates the water from the top cooling the beer and fresh water wicks up the towel from the basin. Even on a summers day in the south of France it'll keep the beer cool all day as long as you top up the water every now and again.
Some interesting suggestions here, we have ordered a couple of decent coolboxes claiming 4 day cooling or something like that. This along with various trips for ice should suffice, but I also have the builders bucket ready to fill with cold water.
Not long to go now chaps, the mrs is not happy about the amount of camping stuff currently occupying bedroom space! I just hope it will all go in the car!
Not long to go now chaps, the mrs is not happy about the amount of camping stuff currently occupying bedroom space! I just hope it will all go in the car!
A bucket full ice, add your cans, top up with water, then add loads and loads of salt and gently stir.
The salt allows the water to get down to below freezing resulting in a much colder beer.
The bulk of extra cold water means it actually takes longer to reach ambient temp than the non salted recipe - and this method works so efficiently you can cool a whole bucket of beers in about 10 mins.
It's weird physics which I'm sure is fully explained somewhere on the net - all I know is that it works!
The salt allows the water to get down to below freezing resulting in a much colder beer.
The bulk of extra cold water means it actually takes longer to reach ambient temp than the non salted recipe - and this method works so efficiently you can cool a whole bucket of beers in about 10 mins.
It's weird physics which I'm sure is fully explained somewhere on the net - all I know is that it works!
Squiggs said:
A bucket full ice, add your cans, top up with water, then add loads and loads of salt and gently stir.
The salt allows the water to get down to below freezing resulting in a much colder beer.
The bulk of extra cold water means it actually takes longer to reach ambient temp than the non salted recipe - and this method works so efficiently you can cool a whole bucket of beers in about 10 mins.
It's weird physics which I'm sure is fully explained somewhere on the net - all I know is that it works!
Pykrete.The salt allows the water to get down to below freezing resulting in a much colder beer.
The bulk of extra cold water means it actually takes longer to reach ambient temp than the non salted recipe - and this method works so efficiently you can cool a whole bucket of beers in about 10 mins.
It's weird physics which I'm sure is fully explained somewhere on the net - all I know is that it works!
Google is your friend.
Haha... just realised who the op is.. This is Simon from Those Chaps. If none of the above works you can always pop round ours as we're taking the fridge freezer again. I'm leaving the dress at home but will have plenty of duct tape
Just me, Ollie, Rich, Tim and Les this year. Same site as before but you'll find us inside a proper Gala tent this time. I'm in the Xtrail doing support wagon, Tim in the xkr and Rich in his Mito.
Just me, Ollie, Rich, Tim and Les this year. Same site as before but you'll find us inside a proper Gala tent this time. I'm in the Xtrail doing support wagon, Tim in the xkr and Rich in his Mito.
TransverseTight said:
Haha... just realised who the op is.. This is Simon from Those Chaps. If none of the above works you can always pop round ours as we're taking the fridge freezer again. I'm leaving the dress at home but will have plenty of duct tape
Just me, Ollie, Rich, Tim and Les this year. Same site as before but you'll find us inside a proper Gala tent this time. I'm in the Xtrail doing support wagon, Tim in the xkr and Rich in his Mito.
Alright Si, how are you mate? When are you heading down? We are eurotunnel 7:50 am wednesday in my A4. I'm sure we'll be able to find our way over, we are on houx just next door. I gather JP is speaking to Rich at some point this weekend.Just me, Ollie, Rich, Tim and Les this year. Same site as before but you'll find us inside a proper Gala tent this time. I'm in the Xtrail doing support wagon, Tim in the xkr and Rich in his Mito.
Squiggs said:
A bucket full ice, add your cans, top up with water, then add loads and loads of salt and gently stir.
The salt allows the water to get down to below freezing resulting in a much colder beer.
The bulk of extra cold water means it actually takes longer to reach ambient temp than the non salted recipe - and this method works so efficiently you can cool a whole bucket of beers in about 10 mins.
It's weird physics which I'm sure is fully explained somewhere on the net - all I know is that it works!
We did this last year in a coolbox full of stubbies. Not only did it not work fantastically compared to simple ice/water mix but also every mouthful from the beer bottle came with a saltwater chaser The salt allows the water to get down to below freezing resulting in a much colder beer.
The bulk of extra cold water means it actually takes longer to reach ambient temp than the non salted recipe - and this method works so efficiently you can cool a whole bucket of beers in about 10 mins.
It's weird physics which I'm sure is fully explained somewhere on the net - all I know is that it works!
. I've had good results with the technique at home but three bags of ice and an entire container of table salt didn't really make a dent.
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