List of older cars in £30 tax bracket
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Frankly sod that !
I've never understood guys driving utter dross all week to have a toy that they barely use at weekends.
Buy a better everyday car or simply buy a better but cheaper car using the money saved in depreciation for fuel / tax
Newer cars are NOT more reliable - quite the opposite IME they have far more complicated crap that you don't need on them.
I've never understood guys driving utter dross all week to have a toy that they barely use at weekends.
Buy a better everyday car or simply buy a better but cheaper car using the money saved in depreciation for fuel / tax
Newer cars are NOT more reliable - quite the opposite IME they have far more complicated crap that you don't need on them.
redgriff500 said:
Frankly sod that !
I've never understood guys driving utter dross all week to have a toy that they barely use at weekends.
when you're commuting twice a day in rush hour traffic in the south east, start/stop/start/stop , there's absolutely no point in having a powerful engine, it's completely wasted and wasting more fuel sitting there idling in start/stop traffic, and burning up a more expensive clutch. The drive is never going to be that enjoyable, hence I'm reckoning the one thing that will bring most enjoyment/comfort to the commute is an auto-box, due to the constant neutral/first/neutral task.I've never understood guys driving utter dross all week to have a toy that they barely use at weekends.
Perhaps if the commute wasn't through such hardcore traffic, and some enjoyment could be garnered from it, I'd settle for some sort of jack-of-all-trades car.
XitUp said:
Somewhere in Essex, I met the guy at the services near Bishops Stortford. £4250. He says he's got a buyer for that one but he's got another that he's imported and is in the process of registering.
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2762793.htm
Ah that one, did look at buying it, but it's a CVT which put me off. Was on EBAY a while back, very surprised it hasn't sold as the last two on autotrader sold to the first caller.http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2762793.htm
AlVal said:
redgriff500 said:
Frankly sod that !
I've never understood guys driving utter dross all week to have a toy that they barely use at weekends.
when you're commuting twice a day in rush hour traffic in the south east, start/stop/start/stop , there's absolutely no point in having a powerful engine, it's completely wasted and wasting more fuel sitting there idling in start/stop traffic, and burning up a more expensive clutch. The drive is never going to be that enjoyable, hence I'm reckoning the one thing that will bring most enjoyment/comfort to the commute is an auto-box, due to the constant neutral/first/neutral task.I've never understood guys driving utter dross all week to have a toy that they barely use at weekends.
Perhaps if the commute wasn't through such hardcore traffic, and some enjoyment could be garnered from it, I'd settle for some sort of jack-of-all-trades car.
I also bought an LPG car which meant I got performance AND economy - 180bhp with 50+mpg
redgriff500 said:
But I'd rather get a nicer car and pay more road tax but have an older one so there is less depreciation. In a years running costs £200 odd of road tax isn't an issue IMO.
I also bought an LPG car which meant I got performance AND economy - 180bhp with 50+mpg
Everyone's got their own reasoning, there's nothing wrong with yours. If one solution was right for everyone, we'd all be driving the same car!I also bought an LPG car which meant I got performance AND economy - 180bhp with 50+mpg
I do like to hear the reasonings that people put into their motoring purchases, in case there are things I haven't considered. One of my reasonings is that by paying £30 instead of £200 yearly for road tax, I can afford a car worth £1000 more , assuming I'll keep it 6 years.
There's a million ways you can look at it!
I was just trying to work out in this instance what the absolute cheapest motoring can be, for those who, by choice or not, have a very tight budget for a car.
avoiding depreciation is why I'm aiming at cars older than 2007, and less than 50,000 miles , and less than £4k, with the idea that you can get good use out of, and still get something back by selling them when they hit about 85k miles.
R500POP said:
I suspect in the long run it would probably be the Insight, 80mpg, zero tax, zero depreciation, ultra reliable.
It's a very, very hot contendor. The only possible downside is the specialist technology, which could prove costly. If I can satisfy myself that I'm capable of looking after the electrical/battery wizardry and getting a grid charger sorted, and that the costs involved in maintaining all that side of things can be kept under control and within budget, I think I might very well make that plunge. The more I think about it, the more I want to - it's so much more interesting/important/better a car than a lot of the boring stuff on the list. the whole aluminium no rust side of things is a huge positive also I think - this must surely increase their lifespan drastically?AlVal said:
It's a very, very hot contendor. The only possible downside is the specialist technology, which could prove costly. If I can satisfy myself that I'm capable of looking after the electrical/battery wizardry and getting a grid charger sorted, and that the costs involved in maintaining all that side of things can be kept under control and within budget, I think I might very well make that plunge. The more I think about it, the more I want to - it's so much more interesting/important/better a car than a lot of the boring stuff on the list. the whole aluminium no rust side of things is a huge positive also I think - this must surely increase their lifespan drastically?
Pop over to www.insightcentral.net & you'll see almost everything is possible with the communitys help.Kong said:
Why rule out the Fabia 1.4 TDI just because it costs £60 extra a year to tax? Thats nothing in the overall cost of running a car and the Skoda would be a great choice.
Indeed - by far and away for anything new-ish, depreciation and insurance, then servicing are the significant costs. Tax is piffling in comparison unless you are looking at the £400+ bracket.RenesisEvo said:
Indeed - by far and away for anything new-ish, depreciation and insurance, then servicing are the significant costs. Tax is piffling in comparison unless you are looking at the £400+ bracket.
it's the one you can easily control though, and also the one that you get NO benefit back from...you might think a £170 saving a year piffling, but I think of it as the difference between being able to afford over 6 years a car of initial £4k value rather than a car of initial £3k value.AlVal said:
Swoxy said:
Skoda Fabia 1.4 TDI?
was only excluded because outside the 2001-2006 timeframe, but a very good option, and glad you mentioned it.when I get the full website up, you'll be able to widen and narrow all kinds of search parameters
Anyway, Fabia 1.4 TDI PD Classics from 1 Jan 2007 – 30 Mar 2007 are £30
AlVal said:
Everyone's got their own reasoning, there's nothing wrong with yours. If one solution was right for everyone, we'd all be driving the same car!
I do like to hear the reasonings that people put into their motoring purchases, in case there are things I haven't considered. One of my reasonings is that by paying £30 instead of £200 yearly for road tax, I can afford a car worth £1000 more , assuming I'll keep it 6 years.
There's a million ways you can look at it!
I was just trying to work out in this instance what the absolute cheapest motoring can be, for those who, by choice or not, have a very tight budget for a car.
avoiding depreciation is why I'm aiming at cars older than 2007, and less than 50,000 miles , and less than £4k, with the idea that you can get good use out of, and still get something back by selling them when they hit about 85k miles.
My requirements were a little different from yours I needed a car for:I do like to hear the reasonings that people put into their motoring purchases, in case there are things I haven't considered. One of my reasonings is that by paying £30 instead of £200 yearly for road tax, I can afford a car worth £1000 more , assuming I'll keep it 6 years.
There's a million ways you can look at it!
I was just trying to work out in this instance what the absolute cheapest motoring can be, for those who, by choice or not, have a very tight budget for a car.
avoiding depreciation is why I'm aiming at cars older than 2007, and less than 50,000 miles , and less than £4k, with the idea that you can get good use out of, and still get something back by selling them when they hit about 85k miles.
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I bought a 2000 1.8T Leon Cupra with LPG 120k for circa £3k 3 yrs ago. Currently worth around £2k now so £333/yr depreciation. I have looked around but for what I want its still perfect so intend keeping it a while longer.
AlVal said:
it's the one you can easily control though, and also the one that you get NO benefit back from...you might think a £170 saving a year piffling, but I think of it as the difference between being able to afford over 6 years a car of initial £4k value rather than a car of initial £3k value.
I can see your point of view. My post was aimed at people weighing up saving £50-100 on tax by buying a new car, completely forgetting the several thousands it will lose the moment it leaves the forecourt. As the tax becomes a bigger proportion of the purchase price, then yes it does become an issue, but by that point you are looking at cars with limited depreciation anyway.Gassing Station | Car Buying | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff