Best lease car deals available?

[NPI]

berlintaxi said:

Are you seriously stupid or do you just post for attention?

Is it acceptable for people to make their own decisions about which laws to obey?

[berlintaxi]

It's a huge leap between straying over a speed limit and setting out to commit a deliberate act of fraud, possibly why the penalties differ as well.

[Du1point8]

NPI said:

berlintaxi said:

Are you seriously stupid or do you just post for attention?

Is it acceptable for people to make their own decisions about which laws to obey?

No.

Why do you think its acceptable to decide which laws you obey?

Bending the law and going a little faster now and again on the motorway or rual roads is different than constantly speeding at 60mph past a school or delibrately defrauding an entity permanently.

[HarryW]

Forget about speeding laws. What you propose is a Shocking and morally corrupt thing to do, I hope I never have the misfortune to buy a car from your ilk.


And that is why Mercedes only now deal with centralised computer servicing records.....thank god...

[blindswelledrat]

Back topic, is there a reason why some cars don't seem to get leased?

For another thread I was just looking for a Lexus LS deal and there doesn't seem to be any company that leases them. Why might this be?

[Anglade]

blindswelledrat said:

Back topic, is there a reason why some cars don't seem to get leased?

For another thread I was just looking for a Lexus LS deal and there doesn't seem to be any company that leases them. Why might this be?

not cheap, mind....

http://www.contracthireandleasing.com/business/car...

[Fast Bug]

NPI said:

Do what growing numbers of people with low mileage lease / PCP contracts are doing and get the mileage "corrected" each year.

And you try to pan the motor trade for being bent

[Accelebrate]

BrabusMog said:

People have their lease cars clocked? How is that even possible considering when I take my Merc for a service, a computer is hooked up to it and the mileage is recorded electronically? Surely there would be a way for them to tell it had been tampered with?

'Corrected' before it goes anywhere near a dealerships computer? Potentially multiple times during a two or three year lease.

Du1point8 said:

kiethton said:

edo said:

kiethton said:

definitely financial benefit in resetting the service interval warning yourself (condition/time based computer) a few months after a service/a few thousand miles after the last one if ever there is one! (presuming its a computer system - "the car never said it needed a service...")

For a lease car anyway...

Fraudulent.

Is it?

I wasn't advocating the hard re-setting/haircutting of the mileage, just the delay of automated warnings.

just as bad... You have a bill due for £800 on a service for your car 6 weeks before handing it back... you reset the warning so it occurs after you hand it back.

You save £800, but its in your contract to pay for the service and you are defrauding the company by being dishonest... might as well do clocking as well.

Just handing it back seems to be the best approach. It seems there's often no charge if the service is only just due, or a fee for the same amount or less than the cost of the service without the hassle of booking it in.

[Steve vRS]

I currently have a company car but the vehicle selection choices come renewal are poor to say the least so leasing may be my alternative option using a cash for car deal.

The problem would be that I would need an annual mileage allowance of at least 20000 miles. Is this likely to scupper any chance of a reasonable deal on anything remotely desirable?

Steve

[Anglade]

Steve vRS said:

I currently have a company car but the vehicle selection choices come renewal are poor to say the least so leasing may be my alternative option using a cash for car deal.

The problem would be that I would need an annual mileage allowance of at least 20000 miles. Is this likely to scupper any chance of a reasonable deal on anything remotely desirable?

Steve

How much cash allowance would you get?

[NPI]

Fast Bug said:

And you try to pan the motor trade for being bent

If the cap fits....

[blindswelledrat]

Steve vRS said:

I currently have a company car but the vehicle selection choices come renewal are poor to say the least so leasing may be my alternative option using a cash for car deal.

The problem would be that I would need an annual mileage allowance of at least 20000 miles. Is this likely to scupper any chance of a reasonable deal on anything remotely desirable?

Steve

In an identical situation I spent ages trying to help my sister get a decent deal and it just wasn't happening at all.
She was looking at significantly lesser cars than if she remained in the company car scheme due to the 20k pa mileage.
In the end I persuaded her to buy a 3 year old Qashqai with almost no mileage and she is absolutely delighted she did. It is like a new car, she really likes it, and it has cost her less than nothing when you take the car allowance/tax into account.

In her shoes I would have bought a 3 year old much better car and tried to remain even but with a better car-but whatever your preferences are.

But in short- it is hard to get a high mileage decent lease deal in my experience.

[Steve vRS]

I would get £375 allowance which of course the tax man will take what, 46% of? I won't pay the co. car tax I currently have to fork out which I suppose will be about £130 per month so I have £330ish to spend. There is the extra per mile and the tax rebate on the mileage to bump this up a bit but of course a 20k per annum car is going to take a few tyres and services to keep it going.

The car must also be less than 5 years old.

The other option is to swallow the bitter pill, take the 1.6D SE Golf Estate and buy an MX-5 for fun.....

Steve

[blindswelledrat]

Exactly the same figures as my sister almost to the penny
She was being offered slightly better than the Golf (but may be not more expensive) and she couldn't get near the calibre of car by doing it herself.

In your shoes- buy a 3 year old nice car with sub 20k miles. Sell it after 2 years to a)keep it within your 5 year rule and b) mean that you are still selling a car with modest mileage and repeat.
FOr your £300 a month you could get something really nice if you can be arsed with it.

[Fast Bug]

NPI said:

Fast Bug said:

And you try to pan the motor trade for being bent

If the cap fits....

No cap to wear, you're the one telling someone they should clock a car to save a few quid on a service

[Anglade]

Steve vRS said:

I would get £375 allowance which of course the tax man will take what, 46% of? I won't pay the co. car tax I currently have to fork out which I suppose will be about £130 per month so I have £330ish to spend. There is the extra per mile and the tax rebate on the mileage to bump this up a bit but of course a 20k per annum car is going to take a few tyres and services to keep it going.

The car must also be less than 5 years old.

The other option is to swallow the bitter pill, take the 1.6D SE Golf Estate and buy an MX-5 for fun.....

Steve

obviously the mileage makes the deals much harder to find ....

http://www.contracthireandleasing.com/car-leasing-...

http://www.contracthireandleasing.com/car-leasing-...

http://www.contracthireandleasing.com/car-leasing-...

[bigup]

charltjr said:

Fiesta ST-2 with metallic paint:
£180 p/m inc VAT 6+23 personal contract 8k miles p/a
http://www.gateway2lease.com/z_ford_fiesta_1.6ecob...

seems like a great deal!

anyone got st2?

[ArsE92]

bigup said:

charltjr said:

Fiesta ST-2 with metallic paint:
£180 p/m inc VAT 6+23 personal contract 8k miles p/a
http://www.gateway2lease.com/z_ford_fiesta_1.6ecob...

seems like a great deal!

anyone got st2?

Trying to get my 67 year-old Dad onto this

[Birdster]

ArsE92 said:

bigup said:

charltjr said:

Fiesta ST-2 with metallic paint:
£180 p/m inc VAT 6+23 personal contract 8k miles p/a
http://www.gateway2lease.com/z_ford_fiesta_1.6ecob...

seems like a great deal!

anyone got st2?

Trying to get my 67 year-old Dad onto this

Compared to the maintained Golf R. What would the overall costs be?

One service every year/10k? As this might be my backup option.

I know it's not meant to be as good as the Golf, but the deal reflects that.

Only asking as the manual, base spec R was about £7500 for two years. The fiesta is £5000, then add two services if you have to service it before it goes back and maybe two front tyres if you drive enthusiastically and you're most likely looking at pushing the £6000 mark, or I'm over estimating the service costs.

Edited by Birdster on Saturday 26th April 11:28

[ManaghGB]

Birdster said:

Compared to the maintained Golf R. What would the overall costs be?

One service every year/10k? As this might be my backup option.

I know it's not meant to be as good as the Golf, but the deal reflects that.

Not a lot to be honest. Tax is £125/year, tyres will last over 15k miles even with hard driving and Ford servicing isn't that expensive compared to the likes of VW. Servicing is every 12k miles or 12 months.

Brilliant little cars and I'd bet more fun over a tight and twisty road.