Is there a fun, petrol car that will do a genuine 40mpg?

Is there a fun, petrol car that will do a genuine 40mpg?

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cwoodsie2

331 posts

210 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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In a very similar position myself and concluded the best route is either a small hatch or a diesel. Can get 40mpg out of my current E46 3 series but it's particularly boring!

My shortlist is coming down to Alpina D3, 330d, 159 JTDM or the turbo Fiesta / Mito. Haven't found much else which ticks the boxes. Would love an elise/vx but unfortunately usually need more space to lug stuff about at the weekend.

daydotz

1,742 posts

162 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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Proceed gt more like low 30s

R2T2

4,076 posts

123 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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cwoodsie2 said:
In a very similar position myself and concluded the best route is either a small hatch or a diesel. Can get 40mpg out of my current E46 3 series but it's particularly boring!

My shortlist is coming down to Alpina D3, 330d, 159 JTDM or the turbo Fiesta / Mito. Haven't found much else which ticks the boxes. Would love an elise/vx but unfortunately usually need more space to lug stuff about at the weekend.
Turbo Mito shares the engine with mine. It won't do 40mpg unless you daisy it, up an empty motorway at 60. 35 is do-able

moorx

3,519 posts

115 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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VolvoT5 said:
I wouldn't have thought there are many (any?) 'fun' cars that will do a genuine 40mpg... especially not while you are actually having 'fun'.

But I love these types of threads anyway... usually full of people claiming they can get 45mpg out if their 4.0 V8 barge, "on a run" of course.
My Mk3 MR2 does around 40mpg, but doesn't meet the OP's requirement of less than 5 years old...

Rajtsun

28 posts

126 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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jdwoodbury said:
Another vote for the Fiesta ST....get the ST3 with all the toys, great fun to drive and decent discounts available.
+1

My ST2 does 38 MPG and it is driven quite enthusiastically.

Wedgepilot

819 posts

284 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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Another vote for the Smart Roadster here. Great fun, and hard to get less than 45mpg. Not really a true manual though.

Ecosseven

1,984 posts

218 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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Seat Ibiza od Leon 1.4 ACT. Claimed 60MPG so I would imagine a genuine 45MPG is achievable in mixed driving. 140-150PS in a relatively light car so quick enough to be fun

thatguy11

640 posts

124 months

Wednesday 8th April 2015
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entropy said:
If you're not overly fussed by performance I'm getting 40mpg in mixed driving in Celica 140, 44mpg on motorway and that's from sticking to NSLs.

190 Celica will get you in the high 30s.
I have a 190 and can confirm this; I get 40 from mine on the motorway just by sitting at 70. Barely drops to 35mpg while hooning

s m

23,242 posts

204 months

Wednesday 8th April 2015
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Ecosseven said:
Seat Ibiza od Leon 1.4 ACT. Claimed 60MPG so I would imagine a genuine 45MPG is achievable in mixed driving. 140-150PS in a relatively light car so quick enough to be fun
The A1 has the same 150 engine as well and is a pretty good steer - enjoyed it slightly more than the Swift although it is a bit heavier - anyway, did well over a true 40 on a run through Welsh mountains ( although the computer is an optimistic liar! )

lukefreeman

1,494 posts

176 months

Wednesday 8th April 2015
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thatguy11 said:
entropy said:
If you're not overly fussed by performance I'm getting 40mpg in mixed driving in Celica 140, 44mpg on motorway and that's from sticking to NSLs.

190 Celica will get you in the high 30s.
I have a 190 and can confirm this; I get 40 from mine on the motorway just by sitting at 70. Barely drops to 35mpg while hooning
So how does a much lighter car with the same engine get substantially lower?

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acme

2,972 posts

199 months

Wednesday 8th April 2015
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s m said:
Ecosseven said:
Seat Ibiza od Leon 1.4 ACT. Claimed 60MPG so I would imagine a genuine 45MPG is achievable in mixed driving. 140-150PS in a relatively light car so quick enough to be fun
The A1 has the same 150 engine as well and is a pretty good steer - enjoyed it slightly more than the Swift although it is a bit heavier - anyway, did well over a true 40 on a run through Welsh mountains ( although the computer is an optimistic liar! )
I've got that engine in a MK7 Golf with DSG (stick to manual in my opinion if low mileage) & in 11.5k miles I'm getting 42.9 logged on a spreadsheet not OBC. So nowhere near as good as advertised but as expected & in line with honest john estimate.

Quick & smooth but use the performance & it destroys economy. I drive like a granny most of the time!

TameRacingDriver

18,094 posts

273 months

Wednesday 8th April 2015
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lukefreeman said:
So how does a much lighter car with the same engine get substantially lower?

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Answer: It doesn't smile

http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/reviews/facts-and-fi...

kiparoo

8 posts

110 months

Wednesday 8th April 2015
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A250 or at a stretch A45? Reached 38mpg without trying too hard the other day in my CLA45 (40 mile 'run')

Fantuzzi

3,297 posts

147 months

Wednesday 8th April 2015
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Another vote for S3 Elise, (30k budget is rather generous!). From owners and those who have driven them from s1s,s2s etc, they are meant to be a lot more inhabitable than one might think.

If four seats are needed however GT86 would be a great choice, or one that hasn''t been mentioned the Last Gen Clio RS200. Meant to be ace to drive, look rather sweet, and I would assume from the stats they would fit the 40 on a run criteria, but would be worth asking owners to see if they can reach it rather than just mid 30s.

I climbed in the back of a modern ST recently, I sit rather close to the wheel given my leg length, but the room in the back was still rather minimal with the drivers seat in my position. So unless you really need the spare seats for kis, I''d go for the elise or coupe over the little hatches as you may find that the extra ''practicality'' is a little misleading! . Boot sizes might be worth a check though.


Flying machine

1,132 posts

177 months

Wednesday 8th April 2015
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GT86?

Tickle

4,924 posts

205 months

Wednesday 8th April 2015
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Fantuzzi said:
Another vote for S3 Elise, (30k budget is rather generous!). From owners and those who have driven them from s1s,s2s etc, they are meant to be a lot more inhabitable than one might think.

If four seats are needed however GT86 would be a great choice, or one that hasn''t been mentioned the Last Gen Clio RS200. Meant to be ace to drive, look rather sweet, and I would assume from the stats they would fit the 40 on a run criteria, but would be worth asking owners to see if they can reach it rather than just mid 30s.

I climbed in the back of a modern ST recently, I sit rather close to the wheel given my leg length, but the room in the back was still rather minimal with the drivers seat in my position. So unless you really need the spare seats for kis, I''d go for the elise or coupe over the little hatches as you may find that the extra ''practicality'' is a little misleading! . Boot sizes might be worth a check though.
I can confirm that the last gen Clio 200 are fun, a lot of fun. They are however thirsty! The most I got was 36 mpg on the motorway driving at a constant 60. I averaged about 27 mpg in mine.

Twin2

268 posts

123 months

Wednesday 8th April 2015
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Our R56 MCS got high 30s driven mainly around town, and not too carefully...

Got a Twingo RS now, averages 37-38, but then again, you can get one for £4k, not 30

s m

23,242 posts

204 months

Wednesday 8th April 2015
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acme said:
s m said:
Ecosseven said:
Seat Ibiza od Leon 1.4 ACT. Claimed 60MPG so I would imagine a genuine 45MPG is achievable in mixed driving. 140-150PS in a relatively light car so quick enough to be fun
The A1 has the same 150 engine as well and is a pretty good steer - enjoyed it slightly more than the Swift although it is a bit heavier - anyway, did well over a true 40 on a run through Welsh mountains ( although the computer is an optimistic liar! )
I've got that engine in a MK7 Golf with DSG (stick to manual in my opinion if low mileage) & in 11.5k miles I'm getting 42.9 logged on a spreadsheet not OBC. So nowhere near as good as advertised but as expected & in line with honest john estimate.

Quick & smooth but use the performance & it destroys economy. I drive like a granny most of the time!
Yeah, that over 40 figure was a brim to brim measurement, not the computer figure! Wasn't hanging about but I guess the A1 is a fair bit lighter than the Mk7 Golf

Pit Pony

8,621 posts

122 months

Wednesday 8th April 2015
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Mk1 Mx5 can achieve 40 mpg.

Martin_M

2,071 posts

228 months

Wednesday 8th April 2015
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My Abarth 595 often achieves this, obviously not when I'm hammering it but with mixed driving, it's achievable.