Best Lease Car Deals Available? (Vol II)

Best Lease Car Deals Available? (Vol II)

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davamer23

1,127 posts

154 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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imran9999 said:
Delivery mileage is not included in your mileage allowance.
Should arrive with your half tank of fuel once delivered....where as if you pick up then it will cost you a tank getting there and back.
200 miles garage to door by some middle aged gentleman who does deliveries for a post retirement income.
More chance of your car being damaged going from german factory to compound, to port, to ferry, to dealer.
Tell that to the guy who delivered SWMBO's lease vehicle 1st March, car was filthy and he'd been smoking roll ups en route. Dealership paid for a full valet and the driver was supposedly given the boot.
My own lease car was delivered by courier last year filthy and with a screw in the n/s front tyre. Eventually sorted but not a great start to "brand new" vehicle leasing.
If there's a next time I'll seek transporter delivery or collect from local dealer.

Otter Smacker

6,524 posts

194 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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Skaif said:
Cheers, pretty sure it's still available as some have said!
Would snap one up if I was in full time work, matey. Seen the Polo GTI for the same money, so would probably have that one instead biggrin.

Sheepshanks

32,788 posts

119 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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spookly said:
Depends on how the DPF is cleared. On a lot of more modern diesels it doesn't need a thrash to do it, and it will run a DPF clearing cycle when it needs to. Check with a VW dealer/technician how it clears the DPF and if there is a way to check the DPF health (sometimes available through screen/OBD)

Also, with the VW diesels, most are now SCR - so will need AdBlue top ups. The Tiguan has a 13 litre tank that will need refilling approximately annually based on 6k a year, but more often if you drive it hard.
My missus has previous Tiguan but it's same engine and has SCR. It's doing a forced regen around every 200 miles - it'll do one based on mileage if it hasn't done a cycle for 465 miles. They don't get anything like hot enough to passive regen, but VW and the dealers are clueless so will insist they do. Even if it did, it would still do the mileage based regen.

They use a litre of AdBlue around every 400 miles (less if driven hard) so the tank needs refilling at 3-4K. It's not a big deal, and much easier in the new ones as the filler is under the fuel flap now.

I bought ours (with mega discount and heavily supported PCP) but that was a mistake, I should have leased it - these are not cars to own once out of warranty, the emissions stuff is horrendously complicated.


ETA: lease prices over 3yrs for 150TDi DSG (so 4Motion) Match were coming out at just about £300/mth amortised. The current prices for the new one are obviously bonkers, but they seem to be having trouble with the roll-out - several engine / power-train options are already a couple of months late. Also VW are changing their petrol engines so that won't be helping the petrol models.


Edited by Sheepshanks on Monday 27th June 18:02

cslwannabe

1,408 posts

169 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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My leased golf R was driven over 300 miles to deliver it to me - arrived absolutely covered in salt so no way of confirming the condition of the car. To top it off the delivery driver then expected a lift to the train station which is 20 minutes away. After dropping him off there wasn't even enough fuel left to make it home. It did sour the experience somewhat. Our leased XF on the other hand was delivered by trailer and the leased 6series collected from the BMW dealer which is 10 miles away from home. Just in the process of signing up for an A6 - be interesting to see where that comes from and how it is delivered.

Forgot to say that on my drive back from the train station whilst playing with the OBC I noticed that the average speed was still over 70mph - good going to average that over 300 miles, plus a very long 50mph average speed camera stretch on the M1 at that time. So much for my plans as how I was going to run it in using mixed loads, no long periods of steady revs etc.

Edited by cslwannabe on Monday 27th June 18:33

wings84

36 posts

96 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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I have been looking at these Tiguan deals over the past few weeks, I went to look at one the other day it was the R-line and not the SEL, I must say it looked very impressive but the quotes I have seen for the SEL and R-line have been way over my budget

Can you let me know what company you found that SEL price from as I found AVL (Advance Vehicle Leasing not sure it that is the correct company) and the prices are way more than you have said here

I got a mail shot for the se nav from a company called Vehicles4work today

Tiguan 2.0TDI Manual se nav 150bhp
9+23
8kpa
£221.99 inc Vat
has a £250 admin fee

link below to the deal
http://www.vehicles4work.com/personal-lease-cars/v...


spookly said:
zayn said:
Never had a diesel before and have not driven a manual in eight years smile
I only average around 6k per year and mostly short journeys. I don't think that works well with the diesel ??



spookly said:
zayn said:
Any chance there will be a offer on the Petrol R version of the Tiguan. I really like these as a replacement for my Golf R
I had a look last week, and the petrol Tig seems to be running about £100+ a month premium over the 150bhp diesel. And that is before the slightly lower offers that are cropping up on the tdi, I can't see any offers getting the price of the petrol any lower :-(

AVL prices for:

2.0 Tdi 150ps BMT Sel 5dr 2WD 6Mt 17Mdy - 6+23 - Initial: £1408.44, Monthly: £234.74

2.0 Tsi 180ps BMT Sel 5dr 4Motion DSG Auto 17Mdy - Initial: £2254.74, Monthly: £375.79

The difference in price over two years is over £4000

Depends if the 4motion, DSG and extra 30 horses is worth it to you.

Edited by spookly on Monday 27th June 14:45
Depends on how the DPF is cleared. On a lot of more modern diesels it doesn't need a thrash to do it, and it will run a DPF clearing cycle when it needs to. Check with a VW dealer/technician how it clears the DPF and if there is a way to check the DPF health (sometimes available through screen/OBD)

Also, with the VW diesels, most are now SCR - so will need AdBlue top ups. The Tiguan has a 13 litre tank that will need refilling approximately annually based on 6k a year, but more often if you drive it hard.

Blown2CV

28,831 posts

203 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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zayn said:
Any chance there will be a offer on the Petrol R version of the Tiguan. I really like these as a replacement for my Golf R
i think the R is just a trim line on most VWs, that one included. Could be wrong though but i can't imagine there's 300bhp in there?

Luke.

10,996 posts

250 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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cslwannabe said:
My leased golf R was driven over 300 miles to deliver it to me - arrived absolutely covered in salt so no way of confirming the condition of the car. To top it off the delivery driver then expected a lift to the train station which is 20 minutes away. After dropping him off there wasn't even enough fuel left to make it home. It did sour the experience somewhat. Our leased XF on the other hand was delivered by trailer and the leased 6series collected from the BMW dealer which is 10 miles away from home. Just in the process of signing up for an A6 - be interesting to see where that comes from and how it is delivered.

Forgot to say that on my drive back from the train station whilst playing with the OBC I noticed that the average speed was still over 70mph - good going to average that over 300 miles, plus a very long 50mph average speed camera stretch on the M1 at that time. So much for my plans as how I was going to run it in using mixed loads, no long periods of steady revs etc.

Edited by cslwannabe on Monday 27th June 18:33
Chill on the running in, it's a lease car...

spookly

4,019 posts

95 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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Blown2CV said:
i think the R is just a trim line on most VWs, that one included. Could be wrong though but i can't imagine there's 300bhp in there?
Correct. Same as SEL trim with a few external adornments as far as I can see.

The current petrol in the new Tiguan is 180hp.

spookly

4,019 posts

95 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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wings84 said:
Can you let me know what company you found that SEL price from as I found AVL (Advance Vehicle Leasing not sure it that is the correct company) and the prices are way more than you have said here
Absolutely. But that's the wrong AVL - You want allvehiclecontracts.co.uk :-)

You didn't say if you wanted particular miles or whatever, but you can tweak it on the link below. Just set the contract type to 'personal'.
6+23 (£1642.42 initial) 8k miles on 2.0TDI SEL £234.74 a month

Contracthireandleasing.com link

HTH

Edited by spookly on Monday 27th June 19:49

Blown2CV

28,831 posts

203 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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cslwannabe said:
My leased golf R was driven over 300 miles to deliver it to me - arrived absolutely covered in salt so no way of confirming the condition of the car. To top it off the delivery driver then expected a lift to the train station which is 20 minutes away. After dropping him off there wasn't even enough fuel left to make it home. It did sour the experience somewhat. Our leased XF on the other hand was delivered by trailer and the leased 6series collected from the BMW dealer which is 10 miles away from home. Just in the process of signing up for an A6 - be interesting to see where that comes from and how it is delivered.

Forgot to say that on my drive back from the train station whilst playing with the OBC I noticed that the average speed was still over 70mph - good going to average that over 300 miles, plus a very long 50mph average speed camera stretch on the M1 at that time. So much for my plans as how I was going to run it in using mixed loads, no long periods of steady revs etc.

Edited by cslwannabe on Monday 27th June 18:33
you can get the delivery mileage knocked off your contract allowance at least, if you complain. Some of the transport companies and drivers are great, some st. My S8 was delivered on a trailer by a very nice geordie guy, but i found it he'd mucked up the interior loading and unloading it... aswell as when he insisted on demonstrating all the controls at 6:30am in inner city manchester, much to my protestations

Burwood

18,709 posts

246 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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Is that Tiguan offer front wheel drive only. I don't see the point, nor point in manual. Uris an AAWD car which runs best in DSG. That bumps up the price even more

spookly

4,019 posts

95 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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Burwood said:
Is that Tiguan offer front wheel drive only. I don't see the point, nor point in manual. Uris an AAWD car which runs best in DSG. That bumps up the price even more
Yes, it is front wheel drive. And as most of them will never see mud or snow I'm not sure it makes sense to have 4motion. It isn't a proper off road four wheel drive system anyways, and if I need a vehicle for that I'll take my Jeep with Quadra Drive :-)

Also, DSG vs Manual is a preference. I'd take the DSG too, but the prices on the DSG models are more expensive as VW charge a premium for that.

You'll probably find that the market agrees and VW will shift far more manual 2wd Tiguan than they will 4motion or DSG. Especially as the manual 2wd diesel has the best mpg.

Personally I don't see the point of 4motion on the Tiguan. It doesn't make it into an all season 4wd off roader, and nobody is going to buy it to drive the nuts off it through corners.... so why would you want 4motion on it?

Burwood

18,709 posts

246 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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spookly said:
Burwood said:
Is that Tiguan offer front wheel drive only. I don't see the point, nor point in manual. Uris an AAWD car which runs best in DSG. That bumps up the price even more
Yes, it is front wheel drive. And as most of them will never see mud or snow I'm not sure it makes sense to have 4motion. It isn't a proper off road four wheel drive system anyways, and if I need a vehicle for that I'll take my Jeep with Quadra Drive :-)

Also, DSG vs Manual is a preference. I'd take the DSG too, but the prices on the DSG models are more expensive as VW charge a premium for that.

You'll probably find that the market agrees and VW will shift far more manual 2wd Tiguan than they will 4motion or DSG. Especially as the manual 2wd diesel has the best mpg.

Personally I don't see the point of 4motion on the Tiguan. It doesn't make it into an all season 4wd off roader, and nobody is going to buy it to drive the nuts off it through corners.... so why would you want 4motion on it?
We live in a rural setting with lots of winding , narrow stty lanes. 4wd a nice plus for us. I haven't driven a manual for years.. 10 years in fact. Unless an exotic I'd never use a manual again. Over 40 now lol

spookly

4,019 posts

95 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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Burwood said:
We live in a rural setting with lots of winding , narrow stty lanes. 4wd a nice plus for us. I haven't driven a manual for years.. 10 years in fact. Unless an exotic I'd never use a manual again. Over 40 now lol
Fair enough. If it is particularly rural then I'd suggest a proper 4wd system.

But you'll get better traction with 2wd and winter tyres than a 4wd with summer/all weather tyres when the weather turns bad. You might also stand a better chance of stopping ;-)


Sheepshanks

32,788 posts

119 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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Burwood said:
Is that Tiguan offer front wheel drive only. I don't see the point, nor point in manual. Uris an AAWD car which runs best in DSG. That bumps up the price even more
In the old model, and I think currently in the new one, you can't have DSG without also having 4Motion - hence it's a big jump from manual to auto.

There are 2WD DSG versions coming - they'd be fine for most people. SEAT Ateca will have that combination too. However the used demand for Tiguan is supposed be all about 4Motion DSG's, so you'd think that would be reflected in lease pricing, but it doesn't seem to be.

jason61c

5,978 posts

174 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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Hi all....

Whats the cheapest estate at the minute? For the mrs and kids. not bothered about spec etc etc.

wemorgan

3,578 posts

178 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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jason61c said:
Hi all....

Whats the cheapest estate at the minute? For the mrs and kids. not bothered about spec etc etc.
https://www.contracthireandleasing.com/

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

198 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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jason61c said:
Hi all....

Whats the cheapest estate at the minute? For the mrs and kids. not bothered about spec etc etc.
Usually

Skoda vRS
Audi Allroad 3ltr v6 tdi
Passat

Blown2CV

28,831 posts

203 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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Welshbeef said:
jason61c said:
Hi all....

Whats the cheapest estate at the minute? For the mrs and kids. not bothered about spec etc etc.
Usually

Skoda vRS
Audi Allroad 3ltr v6 tdi
Passat
To be fair he didn't say best value, he said cheapest.

spookly

4,019 posts

95 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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Blown2CV said:
Welshbeef said:
jason61c said:
Hi all....

Whats the cheapest estate at the minute? For the mrs and kids. not bothered about spec etc etc.
Usually

Skoda vRS
Audi Allroad 3ltr v6 tdi
Passat
To be fair he didn't say best value, he said cheapest.
Something by Dacia.... can probably be had new for about twice the deposit on an Audi lease :-)
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