Best Lease Car Deals Available? (Vol 3)

Best Lease Car Deals Available? (Vol 3)

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talksthetorque

10,815 posts

136 months

Tuesday 29th November 2016
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How much is the company car tax on that?

silentbrown

8,856 posts

117 months

Tuesday 29th November 2016
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Beefmeister said:
...Tango Red...
Tango's not red. I'd be thinking about this all the time.



Volcano Red paint may have gone, but there's still Magma Red interiors.

MaxSo

1,910 posts

96 months

Tuesday 29th November 2016
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Off topic resurrection from a few weeks back after reading http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/hyundai/97848/hyundai...

MaxSo said:
Fast Bug said:
I'm fleet sales so 99% of what I do is with companies. I get demos in for company car users all the time, but there is a cost to this that we (the dealership) have to pay. If it's one of our own demo fleet then we have the cost of the demo vehicle itself, fuel and a drivers time to drop off and collect. If we use the manufacturers demo fleet, then they charge us a flat fee.

You swallow the costs if you've a customer that takes 20+ cars a year. You wouldn't do it for Joe Bloggs that wants 1 personal lease every 2 or 3 years though
Interesting; maybe if personal leasing continues to grow in popularity this is just something that will change over time as manufacturers realise personal lease customers may often still like to test drive before committing upwards of £6k on their product. Perhaps the costs will then get absorbed by higher average pricing for lease deals.

Until then it seems to be a case of:
A) See if the broker offering the lease can arrange a test drive (or the specific dealer e.g Simpsons).
OR
B) Lie / bluff if you don't mind doing that.
OR
C) Be honest - but when arranging the test drive rather than later on (to save everyone's time) and see what they say.
OR
D) Take a chance without a test drive.

GrahamW

74 posts

283 months

Wednesday 30th November 2016
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Has anyone seen any deals on A3 Cabriolets at all? Been reading through the thread and it's all A3/S3 hatch, no cabriolets.

SWoll

18,449 posts

259 months

Wednesday 30th November 2016
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MaxSo said:
Off topic resurrection from a few weeks back after reading http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/hyundai/97848/hyundai...

MaxSo said:
Fast Bug said:
I'm fleet sales so 99% of what I do is with companies. I get demos in for company car users all the time, but there is a cost to this that we (the dealership) have to pay. If it's one of our own demo fleet then we have the cost of the demo vehicle itself, fuel and a drivers time to drop off and collect. If we use the manufacturers demo fleet, then they charge us a flat fee.

You swallow the costs if you've a customer that takes 20+ cars a year. You wouldn't do it for Joe Bloggs that wants 1 personal lease every 2 or 3 years though
Interesting; maybe if personal leasing continues to grow in popularity this is just something that will change over time as manufacturers realise personal lease customers may often still like to test drive before committing upwards of £6k on their product. Perhaps the costs will then get absorbed by higher average pricing for lease deals.

Until then it seems to be a case of:
A) See if the broker offering the lease can arrange a test drive (or the specific dealer e.g Simpsons).
OR
B) Lie / bluff if you don't mind doing that.
OR
C) Be honest - but when arranging the test drive rather than later on (to save everyone's time) and see what they say.
OR
D) Take a chance without a test drive.
How does this benefit anyone but the manufacturer? Are people really stupid enough to a) pay full list price for a car and b) without even having sat in it?

With regards to test drives I just go along to the dealer, tell them I'm interested in model X get a test drive. I then say thank you and walk away. The sales guy is already paid to be there, the car is sat doing nothing so in reality what is it costing them?

wibblebrain

656 posts

141 months

Wednesday 30th November 2016
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SWoll said:
The sales guy is already paid to be there, the car is sat doing nothing so in reality what is it costing them?
OMG I find it difficult to believe you can be so naive! Did you really just post that?

ikonic

403 posts

199 months

Wednesday 30th November 2016
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Tedders said:
ikonic said:
Incidentally our Monte Carlo on cheap lease arrived 3 weeks ago ordered via CVL. The supplying dealer was Ridgeway if that helps at all.

Have to say, I've been massively impressed with it. So much car for the money and all family and friends who initially scoffed when I said we were picking up a Skoda as a family barge have been very inpressed by the quality and comfort.

It does feel a bit daft having a flat bottomed steering wheel in a Yeti though.....
I've ordered a Yeti Monte Carlo, similar deal to yours, with G2L. Car ordered in mid September. I was given a Delivery Date of Late Dec. A few weeks ago I was told that the build date was Week 10, 2017! Not too happy about this but the deal is good so i'm hanging in there and incidentally I've just learnt that the build date has come forward to week 5. I'm still not going to receive the car in late december but we will see...

ikonic... Good to hear you are happy with it. When did you order yours? Was it in stock? I've also chosen the grey. No options, kept it cheap as possible.
We ordered on the last day of August. It arrived in the first week of November.

We had some shenanigans where ours was meant to be a factory order, but about 6 weeks later the supplying dealer got in touch saying production had stopped and he instead had a stock car coming in which was slightly different spec to what we ordered..... which we accepted.

A bit surprised that you say you have a 2017 build date for a Monte Carlo to be honest, as would suggest one of my dealer or your dealer is telling porkies!



Beefmeister

16,482 posts

231 months

Wednesday 30th November 2016
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wibblebrain said:
SWoll said:
The sales guy is already paid to be there, the car is sat doing nothing so in reality what is it costing them?
OMG I find it difficult to believe you can be so naive! Did you really just post that?
I don't know why you're getting your panties all twisted about that statement. It is factually true.

The car is already there as is the salesman. It's his job to show you the car. FWIW I've never lied to get a test drive.

Fact is, a dealership is the only contact point Joe Public has with these cars, so if they want to see/test drive a car that's the only way it'll happen. Dealerships just have to suck it up or get the manufacture to do something about it. Until then it's just how life is.

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Heathwood

2,538 posts

203 months

Wednesday 30th November 2016
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ikonic said:
Tedders said:
ikonic said:
Incidentally our Monte Carlo on cheap lease arrived 3 weeks ago ordered via CVL. The supplying dealer was Ridgeway if that helps at all.

Have to say, I've been massively impressed with it. So much car for the money and all family and friends who initially scoffed when I said we were picking up a Skoda as a family barge have been very inpressed by the quality and comfort.

It does feel a bit daft having a flat bottomed steering wheel in a Yeti though.....
I've ordered a Yeti Monte Carlo, similar deal to yours, with G2L. Car ordered in mid September. I was given a Delivery Date of Late Dec. A few weeks ago I was told that the build date was Week 10, 2017! Not too happy about this but the deal is good so i'm hanging in there and incidentally I've just learnt that the build date has come forward to week 5. I'm still not going to receive the car in late december but we will see...

ikonic... Good to hear you are happy with it. When did you order yours? Was it in stock? I've also chosen the grey. No options, kept it cheap as possible.
We ordered on the last day of August. It arrived in the first week of November.

We had some shenanigans where ours was meant to be a factory order, but about 6 weeks later the supplying dealer got in touch saying production had stopped and he instead had a stock car coming in which was slightly different spec to what we ordered..... which we accepted.

A bit surprised that you say you have a 2017 build date for a Monte Carlo to be honest, as would suggest one of my dealer or your dealer is telling porkies!
Interesting. I'm also waiting on a Monte Carlo, which is due to be built early 2017. Ordered mid October.

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 30th November 2016
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dave_s13 said:
Finally, I get to say it......I just "PULLED THE TRIGGER".........

Workplace salary sacrifice scheme that popped up today on the KIA Soul EV

1+35 profile
£262/month
10k miles/annum
Includes maintenance, tyres and fully comp insurance for me and my Mrs.

Sounds alright that I reckon!!??
You've taken into account the tax changes announced in the autumn statement I hope?

gazza5

818 posts

106 months

Wednesday 30th November 2016
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charltjr said:
You've taken into account the tax changes announced in the autumn statement I hope?
He will be fine on salary sacrifice due to it being a 0% emission car.

talksthetorque

10,815 posts

136 months

Wednesday 30th November 2016
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gazza5 said:
He will be fine on salary sacrifice due to it being a 0% emission car.
£375/750 This year actual out of pocket cost for 20%/40% tax brackets

dave_s13

13,814 posts

270 months

Wednesday 30th November 2016
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talksthetorque said:
gazza5 said:
He will be fine on salary sacrifice due to it being a 0% emission car.
£375/750 This year actual out of pocket cost for 20%/40% tax brackets
Hmmmmm?????

CPC Drive deal said:
Gross cost before savings
£357.80
Less Total Savings
£92.88
Plus Benefit-in-Kind
£48.24
Net cost per month
£264.92
(The monthly cost includes servicing, maintenance, replacement tyres, full insurance, breakdown cover, GAP Insurance and accident management)
Length of agreement 36 months
Annual mileage 10,000miles

CO? Emissions: 0 g/km
P11d value: £29,940.00
There are a LOT of NHS staff using this scheme. Are we all going to get stung with these proposed changes then?

dave_s13

13,814 posts

270 months

Wednesday 30th November 2016
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talksthetorque said:
gazza5 said:
He will be fine on salary sacrifice due to it being a 0% emission car.
£375/750 This year actual out of pocket cost for 20%/40% tax brackets
Martin Lewis said:
Pension, childcare, cycle-to-work and ultra low-emission car schemes are protected. They WON'T have perks axed and will CONTINUE to offer employees big tax and NI savings.
moneysavingexperthttp://www.moneysavingexpert.com/...

I read that as fine for this particular car as is zero emissions. What about my colleagues who have ICE cars though.
I may still ask the lease co for clarification.



Commonsns

5 posts

90 months

Wednesday 30th November 2016
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Hi all,

Been lurking a little while trying to get a sense of this lease malarky. My better half's Mini gave up the ghost last week and we're expecting baby #2 around Christmas so am after something a little more sensible (and new - and hopefully reliable). I've come across the following deal and wondered if it looked decent enough.

If you have any other thoughts - I'd be more than happy to hear. We're after something slightly raised (to aid getting the little ones in and out) and sportier than the MPV's. I'm half tempted to wait for the new 3008 SUV as it looks immense, but suspect it will be pretty expensive at first.

Deal for Qashqai:

Nissan Qashqai Diesel Hatchback 1.5 dCi N-Connecta 5dr
6+35 (1221.24 initial)
10k p/a (6p excess) - will end up doing around 14.5k p/a
203.54 pm


clarkeysntfc

67 posts

90 months

Wednesday 30th November 2016
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Morning All
First post so please be gentle - I'm completely new to leasing having not owned a car for about 6 years now thanks to my previous job providing a company car.

I've found a deal below, but I'm unsure if this is a good 'un. What do you folks think?

E220d AMG Line (Auto)
24 months
£299.99 p/m
£2699.89 initial rental
10k miles p/a

loudlashadjuster

5,132 posts

185 months

Wednesday 30th November 2016
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Commonsns said:
Hi all,
Qashqai numbers
Sorry, but that sounds like a dreadful deal. Evened out it's likely to cost you about £260 a month to drive a slow, diesel Nissan?

mrblast

5 posts

90 months

Wednesday 30th November 2016
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itsallaboutmark said:
Agreed this hits the top of my current deals sorted by % of list price spreadsheet (sad I know).
Hi, would you mind reposting the 4 series deals?

Thanks

Commonsns

5 posts

90 months

Wednesday 30th November 2016
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loudlashadjuster said:
Sorry, but that sounds like a dreadful deal. Evened out it's likely to cost you about £260 a month to drive a slow, diesel Nissan?
Thanks for the reply. It's not really meant to be a blast to drive, granted. What could I get for the same sort of price? It does seem to be the best deal that I can find at the moment (granted it seems a terrible time to be getting a new lease) - went to a local Nissan dealership and they were £40 pm dearer and couldn't get close to the above deal.

ahm

148 posts

100 months

Wednesday 30th November 2016
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Maybe not the most exciting car available being bottom of the range and all, but had seen this a couple of days ago and then noticed it on HUKD this morning. Looks a good deal and might suit someone:

1.0 TFSI Audi A3 SE Sportback
Iniital £2400 inc VAT
23 x £87.05 inc VAT
Fees - 239.99
5k Miles

Total - £4642.14
Broker: National Vehicle Solutions

8K - £95.86 p/m
10k- £101.69 p/m

Not a fan of big deposits, and not sure if restructuring is an option. And no idea if there's any chance of Audi dealerships matching to save the fees.

Unfortunately I think this comes too early to replace my wife's Focus, as it's on a PCP finishing July 2017, and doubt any dealer/broker will hold on that long.

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