Affordable used all-wheel-drive 4-door saloon?

Affordable used all-wheel-drive 4-door saloon?

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InitialDave

11,899 posts

119 months

Thursday 27th October 2016
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talksthetorque said:
Cheap running costs?
Of course! It only uses fuel when it's working!

J4x4K

Original Poster:

235 posts

107 months

Friday 28th October 2016
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talksthetorque said:
For 2k?
Cheap running costs?
Remember we're looking for the moon on a stick. wink
If I would stipulate manual gearbox only, even new and budget unlimited we would have a problem with finding many RWD 4-door saloons with a manual transmission and not German. Or even many AWD frown

So I am being a bit tolerant, because I hate automatic cars. But I know I can't have everything. So I'm fine with an automatic AWD.



shtu

3,454 posts

146 months

Friday 28th October 2016
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J4x4K said:
I understand my choices are limited. At least I didn't ask for RWD. biggrin
Really, your criteria point to an A6 3.0 TDI Quattro. Not expensive (sub-£6000 here), reliable, and not actually expensive to run. Sure, a major Service is about £200-250, but it'll only ask for that at 15000 mile intervals.

I'm slightly biased as I own one, but here's my list of repairs from 5 years of ownership,

Inlet manifolds replaced - £300.
Wheel bearing - £200.
Engine mounts - £220.

Like it or not Audi\VW are probably the biggest sellers of the kind of car you are looking for, and you've ruled them out, which means the biggest pool of cars to choose from, the most available spares (new and used), the most garages that have actually seen one before, etc.

OldGermanHeaps

3,830 posts

178 months

Friday 28th October 2016
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Why are you being such a fussy ocd weirdo about the whole thing?

TIGA84

5,206 posts

231 months

Friday 28th October 2016
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J4x4K said:
So I am being a bit tolerant.
No you're trolling on a weird almost non-existant criteria, based on ridiculous non issues.

Here's a tip.

The car you want doesn't exist, so go and drop your £1500 on whatever takes your fancy on Ebay, it won't make much difference as it'll be pretty st anyway.

J4x4K

Original Poster:

235 posts

107 months

Friday 28th October 2016
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shtu said:
Really, your criteria point to an A6 3.0 TDI Quattro. Not expensive (sub-£6000 here), reliable, and not actually expensive to run. Sure, a major Service is about £200-250, but it'll only ask for that at 15000 mile intervals.

I'm slightly biased as I own one, but here's my list of repairs from 5 years of ownership,

Inlet manifolds replaced - £300.
Wheel bearing - £200.
Engine mounts - £220.

Like it or not Audi\VW are probably the biggest sellers of the kind of car you are looking for, and you've ruled them out, which means the biggest pool of cars to choose from, the most available spares (new and used), the most garages that have actually seen one before, etc.
Which generation A6? £6000 is just over the edge of my budget. But if I really want the car I could pay that. But afraid not for a VW again. frown

The other thing is cars in the UK are much cheaper. A £6000 car there is a £8000-9000 car here.


Yes I know eliminating the VWs take out a huge portion of my options. This is why I started the thread. If I was going to go with the obvious choice I wouldn't need to ask for suggestions. wink


Like I said I had troubles with the Passat. Not looking forward to go through that again. The A6 is actually based on the Passat right? But Audi is more upscale so even worse in the cost. The problem is not that they require too much maintenance. They don't. But if anything major ever happens, forget it! Almost not worth it repairing it. So the problem is not servicing. It's repairs.

schmalex

13,616 posts

206 months

Friday 28th October 2016
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Repairs aren't that crazy, though. You don't need to take it to a main dealer and you can just buy pattern parts from someone like ECP or whoever is local rather than OEM.

With everything being equal, the ad hoc expenses on any of the cars mentioned in this thread are within a couple of hundred Euro per year. Yes, you could always get a duff one that needs money spending on it but the chances of that happening are pretty much equal with anything from Audi,VW, Ford, Honda, Subaru, Volvo, Saab etc



Edited by schmalex on Friday 28th October 13:52

rallycross

12,790 posts

237 months

Friday 28th October 2016
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Bora or Passat 4motion, these are the V6 2.8 model, available manual or auto.

shtu

3,454 posts

146 months

Friday 28th October 2016
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J4x4K said:
Which generation A6?
C6\4F. Private sales on 2007-ish cars are sub-£6k here. The 3.0TDI and autobox combo is as near bombproof as you'll find in any car.