Fiesta st ecoboost
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I need a car for work, i will have a 50 mile commute 4 days a week so i need something that will do 35mpg even giving it stick.
Is the new st fiesta capable of that mpg even giving it some beans?
Also what is the long term reliability likely to be like of this engine. It has a cambelt bathed in oil and its highly stressed for the size, is it likely to last long? Will the dmf need replacing like your typical diesel due to the torque?
Im really stretching my budget to get one of these so need to know about these potential costs etc to decide if its worthwhile, i want a newish hot hatch and the only other 'reliable' ones i can find is a new swift sport which is probably really slow, or an abarth 500 which im not actually sure is that reliable.
Is the new st fiesta capable of that mpg even giving it some beans?
Also what is the long term reliability likely to be like of this engine. It has a cambelt bathed in oil and its highly stressed for the size, is it likely to last long? Will the dmf need replacing like your typical diesel due to the torque?
Im really stretching my budget to get one of these so need to know about these potential costs etc to decide if its worthwhile, i want a newish hot hatch and the only other 'reliable' ones i can find is a new swift sport which is probably really slow, or an abarth 500 which im not actually sure is that reliable.
We have a 100 remapped to 140 by a Superchips Bluefin, will do 50 on a decent run but mostly, on shorter runs it averages 35.
The engines had some issues early on with a coolant pip but has been sorted, otherwise seem to be doign well, there are a lot out there and not heard of many failures.
Great little cars, not that long ago a 140 bhp hot hatch would have been pretty powerful, barely rates as lukewarm these days but they go quite well, handle and brake superbly, its not they are slow, its just everything else has gone daft power wise.
The engines had some issues early on with a coolant pip but has been sorted, otherwise seem to be doign well, there are a lot out there and not heard of many failures.
Great little cars, not that long ago a 140 bhp hot hatch would have been pretty powerful, barely rates as lukewarm these days but they go quite well, handle and brake superbly, its not they are slow, its just everything else has gone daft power wise.
J4CKO said:
We have a 100 remapped to 140 by a Superchips Bluefin, will do 50 on a decent run but mostly, on shorter runs it averages 35.
The engines had some issues early on with a coolant pip but has been sorted, otherwise seem to be doign well, there are a lot out there and not heard of many failures.
Great little cars, not that long ago a 140 bhp hot hatch would have been pretty powerful, barely rates as lukewarm these days but they go quite well, handle and brake superbly, its not they are slow, its just everything else has gone daft power wise.
Thanks for the info, 35 is crap considering its not the s.t, im wanting to go for the st in this case.The engines had some issues early on with a coolant pip but has been sorted, otherwise seem to be doign well, there are a lot out there and not heard of many failures.
Great little cars, not that long ago a 140 bhp hot hatch would have been pretty powerful, barely rates as lukewarm these days but they go quite well, handle and brake superbly, its not they are slow, its just everything else has gone daft power wise.
dieseluser07 said:
I need a car for work, i will have a 50 mile commute 4 days a week so i need something that will do 35mpg even giving it stick.
Is the new st fiesta capable of that mpg even giving it some beans?
Also what is the long term reliability likely to be like of this engine. It has a cambelt bathed in oil and its highly stressed for the size, is it likely to last long? Will the dmf need replacing like your typical diesel due to the torque?
Im really stretching my budget to get one of these so need to know about these potential costs etc to decide if its worthwhile, i want a newish hot hatch and the only other 'reliable' ones i can find is a new swift sport which is probably really slow, or an abarth 500 which im not actually sure is that reliable.
I always thought the Fiesta had quite hard suspension, especially for a 100 mile round trip! Not too much in the way of alternative though, maybe SEAT Ibiza Cupra or an Audi S1 if you can find a cheap one...Is the new st fiesta capable of that mpg even giving it some beans?
Also what is the long term reliability likely to be like of this engine. It has a cambelt bathed in oil and its highly stressed for the size, is it likely to last long? Will the dmf need replacing like your typical diesel due to the torque?
Im really stretching my budget to get one of these so need to know about these potential costs etc to decide if its worthwhile, i want a newish hot hatch and the only other 'reliable' ones i can find is a new swift sport which is probably really slow, or an abarth 500 which im not actually sure is that reliable.
I'm using mine for commuting - mix of free-running motorway, stop-start motorway and some local roads, about 20 miles a day. I'm getting about 37mpg on average from mine, so 35 should be doable. No idea what it's going to be like at high mileage, only things I'd suggest you watch are coolant levels (it seemed to use about 1 litre when it was new, then stabilised) and rear brake pad wear (especially the inner pad of each pair) - the calliper slides can stick if it's not being used every day, mine has gone through 2 sets of rear pads so far.
Otherwise, it's a great little commuter hack - nimble, quick and the heated windscreen, mirrors and seats are great at this time of year. Try to get one with EATC (climate control) fitted - means you just need to fire it up in the morning & it'll heat to your preset temp without getting too warm.
EDIT - also, I see you're going 50 miles a day - either get an ST3 with Cruise Control fitted or you can retrofit cruise to an ST2. Makes a real difference.
Otherwise, it's a great little commuter hack - nimble, quick and the heated windscreen, mirrors and seats are great at this time of year. Try to get one with EATC (climate control) fitted - means you just need to fire it up in the morning & it'll heat to your preset temp without getting too warm.
EDIT - also, I see you're going 50 miles a day - either get an ST3 with Cruise Control fitted or you can retrofit cruise to an ST2. Makes a real difference.
Well my son has the red edition zetec s and i think its a 140, on my mixed commute without giving it too much beans itll easily do 40+, drive it like my son does and it does high 20's.
On the other hand my wife has a 500c Abarth with a tuning box on it (around 170) and without sport enabled itll do 40 ish on a mellow cruise, put sport and and drive it like you should and its lows 20's.
The Abarth is much more fun a drive but if it was my daily id go with the Fiesta (just for the comforts and economy)
On the other hand my wife has a 500c Abarth with a tuning box on it (around 170) and without sport enabled itll do 40 ish on a mellow cruise, put sport and and drive it like you should and its lows 20's.
The Abarth is much more fun a drive but if it was my daily id go with the Fiesta (just for the comforts and economy)
I've got a 1.0 140bhp one, I get MPG in the low 50's. It took maybe 7-8k miles until it started achieving this though. I guess this as a result of running-in.
I think it's a great car, the interior is decent despite what the piston head massive say. It's well built (mine was built in the German plant), genuinely good to drive, the engine is free revving.
Mine's on 20k now, it doesn't appear to burn any oil, and it's been completely reliable. This in in contrast with VW's lesser efforts in boosted small capacity engines.
I think it's a great car, the interior is decent despite what the piston head massive say. It's well built (mine was built in the German plant), genuinely good to drive, the engine is free revving.
Mine's on 20k now, it doesn't appear to burn any oil, and it's been completely reliable. This in in contrast with VW's lesser efforts in boosted small capacity engines.
Edited by lee_erm on Tuesday 17th January 13:37
dieseluser07 said:
J4CKO said:
We have a 100 remapped to 140 by a Superchips Bluefin, will do 50 on a decent run but mostly, on shorter runs it averages 35.
The engines had some issues early on with a coolant pip but has been sorted, otherwise seem to be doign well, there are a lot out there and not heard of many failures.
Great little cars, not that long ago a 140 bhp hot hatch would have been pretty powerful, barely rates as lukewarm these days but they go quite well, handle and brake superbly, its not they are slow, its just everything else has gone daft power wise.
Thanks for the info, 35 is crap considering its not the s.t, im wanting to go for the st in this case.The engines had some issues early on with a coolant pip but has been sorted, otherwise seem to be doign well, there are a lot out there and not heard of many failures.
Great little cars, not that long ago a 140 bhp hot hatch would have been pretty powerful, barely rates as lukewarm these days but they go quite well, handle and brake superbly, its not they are slow, its just everything else has gone daft power wise.
Not sure if all this talk about the 3 Cylinder 1.0 engine is much use to someone looking to buy a 1.6 4 cylinder.
As long as you take it easy on at least some of your 50 mile commute (you can't have your foot to the floor ALL the time) then it should do 35mpg without too much trouble. I had the same (well almost) engine in a Volvo V60 T4, and that was easily capable of over 35mpg, and once saw almost 50mpg on a long run.
I haven't heard of any reliability issues with this car, but it sounds like you're buying at the bottom of the market so just be wary of any dodgy crash repairs and clocked vehicles.
As long as you take it easy on at least some of your 50 mile commute (you can't have your foot to the floor ALL the time) then it should do 35mpg without too much trouble. I had the same (well almost) engine in a Volvo V60 T4, and that was easily capable of over 35mpg, and once saw almost 50mpg on a long run.
I haven't heard of any reliability issues with this car, but it sounds like you're buying at the bottom of the market so just be wary of any dodgy crash repairs and clocked vehicles.
IanCress said:
Not sure if all this talk about the 3 Cylinder 1.0 engine is much use to someone looking to buy a 1.6 4 cylinder.
As long as you take it easy on at least some of your 50 mile commute (you can't have your foot to the floor ALL the time) then it should do 35mpg without too much trouble. I had the same (well almost) engine in a Volvo V60 T4, and that was easily capable of over 35mpg, and once saw almost 50mpg on a long run.
I haven't heard of any reliability issues with this car, but it sounds like you're buying at the bottom of the market so just be wary of any dodgy crash repairs and clocked vehicles.
Im looking around the 12k mark so should get a good one i hope, just wanting to keep this car a while so wanting to know about long term reliability etc, i wont be flooring it all the time but ill want to boot it on slip roads and to overtake, my trip is half motorway, half single carriageway.As long as you take it easy on at least some of your 50 mile commute (you can't have your foot to the floor ALL the time) then it should do 35mpg without too much trouble. I had the same (well almost) engine in a Volvo V60 T4, and that was easily capable of over 35mpg, and once saw almost 50mpg on a long run.
I haven't heard of any reliability issues with this car, but it sounds like you're buying at the bottom of the market so just be wary of any dodgy crash repairs and clocked vehicles.
What do people think about the cambelt being in oil? Its something ive never heard of
dieseluser07 said:
I know i said it was highly stressed and people dont agree but i probably will have it mountuned to 215bhp.
Mine has the MP215 kit on it too. TBH, you'll be lucky if you use more than 25% throttle most of the time on a typical commute. I really don't think you're going to stress this car much unless you're a total binary driver (i.e. throttle & brake are basically on/off switches)I have had an ST-3 from brand new and had the MP215 kit added after a few weeks. My current average on my commute is 43mpg, that is on a mix of roads with a mixed driving style, but when on the motorway I do tend to stick the cruise control on and just sit there. When trying I have achieved 48mpg on my commute but it gets tedious after a while. I do about 55 miles a day.
Dimebars said:
dieseluser07 said:
I know i said it was highly stressed and people dont agree but i probably will have it mountuned to 215bhp.
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