Japanese imports

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Derek Smith

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Tuesday 21st February 2017
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I've been looking for a 124 Merc, probably saloon, possibly estate, preferably 6-cylinder, might stretch to a 4-pot if otherwise great.

Used mainly as a second car as I've got an SLK I use as a daily driver.

I've seen a number of Japanese imports. Many are described as immaculate.

Is it a good idea? Are their any hazards that are hidden? What are the additional costs if any?

Ta,

Derek

Trabi601

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95 months

Tuesday 21st February 2017
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You may need an MPH converter for the speedometer and a rear fog light.

There's import duty and VAT to pay, as I understand - so if you've bought a car for £5k in Japan and it has cost you, say, £1k to transport it and £250 for transport insurance, your total cost, landed in the UK, but pre-registration, would be £8250.

Derek Smith

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Trabi601 said:
You may need an MPH converter for the speedometer and a rear fog light.

There's import duty and VAT to pay, as I understand - so if you've bought a car for £5k in Japan and it has cost you, say, £1k to transport it and £250 for transport insurance, your total cost, landed in the UK, but pre-registration, would be £8250.
Thanks for that. I appreciate the help.

Most imports from Japan are low mileage but that's good and bad.

I'm told that rust proofing is markedly less on Japanese cars so that's in the budget.

Trabi601

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Tuesday 21st February 2017
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I can't see a European car having less rustproofing because it was sold in Japan - JDM cars are a different thing. Our JDM car needed a good coating of waxoyl, but the importer did that before we collected it - good thing was I could look under the car before the waxoyl was applied, though.

Things to watch on low mileage cars are clogged injectors and fuel pumps - we need a new petrol pump for the Alphard, as it is gummed up. We run it on LPG 99% of the time, so it's a case of getting around to it.

Derek Smith

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Tuesday 21st February 2017
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I've just phoned Specialist Cars http://www.specialistcars.net/ and chatted to their sales bloke.

Their charges are all inclusive. That's a new MoT, service, change of milometer and speedo face, UK spec.

I've just been looking for a car to suit me. I've got a minor medical problem and need an auto and more vertical seating. I've gone through the list in a local car supermarket and nothing in my price range, up to 12K, but 15K if needed, excites me. I had a '94 W124 up until ten years ago and I enjoyed it. I looked at a couple a few years ago, one described as 'near immaculate', with no extra charge for the lump of non-undersealed Isopon under both front wings, so was put off. But these Japanese imports seem to answer most of what I need, and i'll find them fun to own.

The company gives a 3-months parts and labour warranty on a 20+ year old car, so they must have a certain amount of faith in their product.

The prices, 9K seems the top for an estate with sub 30,000 miles, leave me enough to keep as a contingency fund, more so for a saloon.

I was told that they waxoil all Japanese cars due to the lower level of rustproofing for cars imported via Merc dealers.

Edited to add: cheap to own as well. Higher fuel consumption but very little depreciation.


CharlesdeGaulle

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Tuesday 21st February 2017
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Derek Smith said:
The prices, 9K seems the top for an estate with sub 30,000 miles, leave me enough to keep as a contingency fund, more so for a saloon.
It would be worth posting ion the Barge 1-5 thread. There are lots of Merc experts there, and some experience of imports and importers.

The kind of money you're mentioning is a lot for one of these cars; either be sure that JDM cars offer VFM or that you wouldn't be better buying a decent base and then getting it brought up to scratch yourself.

Derek Smith

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CharlesdeGaulle said:
It would be worth posting ion the Barge 1-5 thread. There are lots of Merc experts there, and some experience of imports and importers.

The kind of money you're mentioning is a lot for one of these cars; either be sure that JDM cars offer VFM or that you wouldn't be better buying a decent base and then getting it brought up to scratch yourself.
Thanks for the advice. I'll go to the barge - Barge! - thread.

I did consider doing up one that was rough around the edges. I'm experienced enough as I've built two of my own kit cars, rebuilt one and helped two friends with theirs. I've got the gear but I haven't got the back. I broke three vertebrae some years ago and bone growth on the breaks is threatening nerves and stuff. Not helped by 50 years of cycling. I thought I was healthy but I've damaged my L5 quite badly. So lifting and twisting with weights is a no-no.

I think I could get one that will suit me with about 6k, which is well inside my budget. Money left for contingencies and some holidays.

Thanks again.


CharlesdeGaulle

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Derek Smith said:
I think I could get one that will suit me with about 6k ...
I think you could get a very nice one for that, and even having to pay someone else to do the heavy stuff your budget would see you end with a cracker.

Have you seen r129sl's Reader's Ride thread?

Colonial

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205 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2017
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Japanese imports are rife (in Australia and NZ at least) for having their odometers wound back and their certificate of mileage lost prior to being shipped.

Make sure you have that documentation.

GC8

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Wednesday 22nd February 2017
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Japanese auction cars are honest. Its the non-Jap buyers who clock them.

Colonial

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GC8 said:
Japanese auction cars are honest. Its the non-Jap buyers who clock them.
Yep - should have made that one clearer. The cars at auction are genuine. It's what happens when they leave...

Derek Smith

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Wednesday 22nd February 2017
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CharlesdeGaulle said:
I think you could get a very nice one for that, and even having to pay someone else to do the heavy stuff your budget would see you end with a cracker.

Have you seen r129sl's Reader's Ride thread?
Thanks for the link.

I've got a couple of mates up there. I'll ask them if they'll take a look.

I've got a little SLK 320 at the moment. I'll use that until the end of the summer and then accept that I'll have to give into the demands of my back.


Willy Nilly

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Wednesday 22nd February 2017
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Are they still mostly nicked with pallet fork marks on the sills?

rallycross

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237 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2017
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Whatever you do do not buy a car from them without having it fully inspected before handing over any money - I know from my own painful experience what a bunch of chancers they are - one to be avoided unless you check everything twice and be sure it's as described.

GC8

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Wednesday 22nd February 2017
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Derek Smith said:
Most imports from Japan are low mileage but that's good and bad. .
Some are. Others are average - high.

Derek Smith

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rallycross said:
Whatever you do do not buy a car from them without having it fully inspected before handing over any money - I know from my own painful experience what a bunch of chancers they are - one to be avoided unless you check everything twice and be sure it's as described.
Thanks for that. Can you give details of your experience? If it would break the name/shame policy on PH, I'd appreciate a PM.

Derek

rallycross

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Wednesday 22nd February 2017
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Derek Smith said:
Thanks for that. Can you give details of your experience? If it would break the name/shame policy on PH, I'd appreciate a PM.

Derek
Hi

Yes sure will send you the details.

Derek Smith

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rallycross said:
Hi

Yes sure will send you the details.
Appreciate that. Ta.

MDMA .

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Thursday 23rd February 2017
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Derek Smith

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MDMA . said:
The testimonial pages are quite impressive. Thanks for the heads up.