Peugeot/Citroen 1.4/1.6 diesel engines
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Bunfighter said:
If it's serviced it's good for 200,000miles. PSA fell down originally by specifying 20,000mile service or 2yrs intervals. They revised that to what it should be post 2010.
The 1.6 seems better than the 1.4, especially beyond 100k IME. Oil changes at 10k or less with the proper oil ( Total Quartz Ineo for me ) and they can easily see 200k.
Service intervals on some of the Citroens are now back up to 18k - not the best of ideas!
It doesnt seem to matter which model we look at they have issues, all the vans seem to have massive service intervals, mainly for fleet costs I guess, makes them cheaper to maintain?
Rickyy said:
Cramped interiors, not particularly good to drive and not very modern!
His dad has one, seemed spacious enough tbh, it's a 2012 iirc.If you are looking Vauxhall-wards - the Astravan is a better choice IMO
They do nothing amazingly but if it's made-it to 100K, it will make it to 200K so long as you maintain it.
Typical Vauxhall with overassisted brakes and numb steering but I know a few people who've run them into the ground with only odd issues (the absolute worst of which is the need to remove glow plugs which is basically devils roulette - will you snap one and write-off your van!!)
p.s. those long service intervals are best avoided if you want the thing to WORK too
They do nothing amazingly but if it's made-it to 100K, it will make it to 200K so long as you maintain it.
Typical Vauxhall with overassisted brakes and numb steering but I know a few people who've run them into the ground with only odd issues (the absolute worst of which is the need to remove glow plugs which is basically devils roulette - will you snap one and write-off your van!!)
p.s. those long service intervals are best avoided if you want the thing to WORK too
MuscleSaloon said:
The 1.6 seems better than the 1.4, especially beyond 100k IME.
Oil changes at 10k or less with the proper oil ( Total Quartz Ineo for me ) and they can easily see 200k.
Service intervals on some of the Citroens are now back up to 18k - not the best of ideas!
But internet dwellers whose facts come from Google moaners will tell you it's a chocolate engine. Oil changes at 10k or less with the proper oil ( Total Quartz Ineo for me ) and they can easily see 200k.
Service intervals on some of the Citroens are now back up to 18k - not the best of ideas!
I'm getting mine remapped.
There isn't much wrong with the later gen 1.6's, from around 2012 onwards they are much better than the previous variants that were troublesome.
The 1.4 is best avoided though, not the best engine, underpowered really.
Turbo issues are mainly down to poor maintenance on the 1.6 HDI, that means getting it serviced on time which is 12.5k, finding one with little or no service history is best avoided if you don't like big bills.
DPF issues are rare if the 1.6 HDI is run as its meant to be run, not a town car, the perfect example is my Citroen C3 1.6 HDI Airdream 2012 model and its 20+k miles v my sisters Citroen 2014 model C4 Picasso 1.6HDI.
I never had any issues with my C3 because I did long motorway trips on it, my sister did quite a few short town trips in her C4 Picasso, guess which one had the DPF issue?
Yup, not my C3, and despite me telling her that it needs a GOOD run out if you do short trips, she didn't and hey, back to the garage for her who told her to go and rag the backside out of it on the motorway to get it to kick the regeneration into life.
Luckily for her that fixed it, otherwise it could have been a 200+ quid bill for a clean or a new DPF.
Having owned 3 PSA group HDI engines, 2 1.6HDI's and 1 2ltr HDI (2nd one on its way shortly), I have never ever had a DPF issue in any of them due to the sort of driving my derv's do (ie, not town driving).
Oh and avoid the fiat 1.3ltr diesel, its a horrid unit, 1.7ltr (Vauxhall) is far better as its not a fiat engine
The 1.4 is best avoided though, not the best engine, underpowered really.
Turbo issues are mainly down to poor maintenance on the 1.6 HDI, that means getting it serviced on time which is 12.5k, finding one with little or no service history is best avoided if you don't like big bills.
DPF issues are rare if the 1.6 HDI is run as its meant to be run, not a town car, the perfect example is my Citroen C3 1.6 HDI Airdream 2012 model and its 20+k miles v my sisters Citroen 2014 model C4 Picasso 1.6HDI.
I never had any issues with my C3 because I did long motorway trips on it, my sister did quite a few short town trips in her C4 Picasso, guess which one had the DPF issue?
Yup, not my C3, and despite me telling her that it needs a GOOD run out if you do short trips, she didn't and hey, back to the garage for her who told her to go and rag the backside out of it on the motorway to get it to kick the regeneration into life.
Luckily for her that fixed it, otherwise it could have been a 200+ quid bill for a clean or a new DPF.
Having owned 3 PSA group HDI engines, 2 1.6HDI's and 1 2ltr HDI (2nd one on its way shortly), I have never ever had a DPF issue in any of them due to the sort of driving my derv's do (ie, not town driving).
Oh and avoid the fiat 1.3ltr diesel, its a horrid unit, 1.7ltr (Vauxhall) is far better as its not a fiat engine
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