Problem with a car i sold to somebody

Problem with a car i sold to somebody

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Harding91

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427 posts

169 months

Sunday 26th March 2017
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So recently i bought a cheap E46 with a few bits done, coilovers welded diff etc as i had intended to use it as a weekend/track car. When i got the car i put a standard steering wheel back on to get the lights off the dash so it could be mot'd, got it mot'd and had it on my drive for a bit

I very quickly discovered where i'd planned to keep it wasnt an option anymore and i really lost all interest as i was frustrated. So decided to sell it despite only having it a month or so.

Put it up for sale, was as honest as i could've been, i figured somebody would buy it and strip it for parts or buy it as a track day car, chap contacted me came down to buy it, had a short chat with me about it and gave me the money for it and left. At the time he was there i made him fully aware of the following things:

-I didnt have the V5c as it hadnt come through, i had the recipt from when i bought it and the new keepers supplement, i drew up a recipt with this info on it saying i would sign and forward it as soon as i could. (Still havent received the v5c despite sending a form for a replacement, not sure why)

-It has a welded diff so skips at low speeds as the guy prior to me drifted it, he'd never driven on one before so i explained to him best i could what it did/why it did it.

-Had a few other minor problems such as rear windows rattle down so they were jammed up with screwdrivers (Done before i owned it)


Now in the month or so i had it i did probably 3-500 miles and had zero issues.

He came down a fair way, about an hour and a half, looked it over, chatted to me, paid and drove away, i thought all was good.

He text me a week or so ago saying the gearbox wouldnt select gears and suggested maybe it was the short shifter that was fitted,, i replied i wasnt honestly sure and it was fine when i had it, i think he went on to solve this problem.

He's now text me this evening saying hes got breakdown recovery out as the welded diff has snapped on one side? and that he has 1 wheel drive. I asume he means driveshaft im not sure? and generally he seems quite angry/unhappy.


I'm really not sure what to say/do, it was never a perfect condition car, it was a cheap E46 that some guy had drifted prior to me and id planned to make into a budget track car, i advertised it best i could and didnt try to hide anything at all.

ive never been in this situation. He also mentioned paypal have been in touch asking him if he was happy with his purchase.. which confuses me a bit as he paid party by cash and part by bank transfer which i watched him do and made sure it cleared.

It has been 2-3 weeks since i sold it, i have a recipt mentioning the V5c and that is as sold as seen, something ive always been taught to do by my dad growing up.

I do somewhat feel bad if hes really having all these problems as i had none in the short time i owned it but i also didnt know the car inside out when i sold it due to not exactly having it long.

Where do i stand/What do i do?

Nickp82

3,181 posts

93 months

Sunday 26th March 2017
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Tell him to do one basically


zeDuffMan

4,055 posts

151 months

Sunday 26th March 2017
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Cue 200 replies saying it's his problem and you should ignore him... go!

SlimJim16v

5,652 posts

143 months

Sunday 26th March 2017
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I would say anything with a welded diff is not a road car. You told him all about it, it's his problem, tough st.

Harding91

Original Poster:

427 posts

169 months

Sunday 26th March 2017
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I mean i dont want to be rude to him or whatever but im really confused. I genuinely diddnt try and sell anything dodgy or whatever.

What confuses me is when he turned up to buy it he didnt haggle at all just paid the price after clicking 'buy it now' on ebay

didnt test drive it just had a quick chat and a swift look round and drove it away?

All just seems a bit strange but as per typical me im slightly worried ive got an angry man who knows where i live and is upset i sold him something, am i worrying over nothing?

SimonTheSailor

12,576 posts

228 months

Sunday 26th March 2017
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You sound like a decent chap as you feel concerned/quilty about what's happening but its not your fault.

All you can tell him is that it was sold as a second hand car with no warranty.

Oh...and change your number !

CrouchingWayne

686 posts

176 months

Sunday 26th March 2017
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Pretty sure if you check the PayPal terms and conditions they won't cover vehicle purchases, to put your mind at ease on that front.

BigLion

1,497 posts

99 months

Sunday 26th March 2017
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The more you interact the more these clowns start to expect - I'd give one firm response that you cannot provide a warranty on the car and not bother replying again etc.

Digitalize

2,850 posts

135 months

Sunday 26th March 2017
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You advertised it with a welded diff, explained what it is and does etc. It's not really suitable for road use. The welds could have broken meaning only one side will spin but depends how it's been welded, usually get as much weld in between the teeth as possible and maybe some plates.

Could have it rewelded for probably £50 or replace with an open diff for a few hundred.

Not your problem though, buy a car, presumably not for much money and used as a track/drift car and expect issues. He might have bought it as a cheap BMW thinking he'll get amazing build quality and reliability.

Might have broken it doing burnouts or drifting.

Sheepshanks

32,725 posts

119 months

Sunday 26th March 2017
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zeDuffMan said:
Cue 200 replies saying it's his problem and you should ignore him... go!
Then, after all that, the OP refunds the guy and takes the car back.

Harding91

Original Poster:

427 posts

169 months

Sunday 26th March 2017
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I'm just somewhat baffled by the whole thing really.

It wasnt a young guy that came and got it like id expect with a track/drift E46 it was a middle age chap who was saying he had multiple E46's.

No haggling

No test drive

The fact that both of those things have gone wrong for him so quick yet when i had it although i didnt use it much i had no problems?


Im just a bit concerned because ive never had anybody like this when ive sold a car before, every car ive owned/sold has been cheap but ive always tried to be as honest as i can be when selling them.

JuniorD

8,624 posts

223 months

Sunday 26th March 2017
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I'd change my number and move house and maybe put a fake obituary in the paper just to be sure.


MockingJay

1,311 posts

129 months

Sunday 26th March 2017
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Just tell him to do one. Sold as seen, you're not a dealer you don't offer warranties

jonm01

817 posts

237 months

Sunday 26th March 2017
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Another reason to buy a cheap 'burner' phone when selling a used car..

cat with a hat

1,484 posts

118 months

Sunday 26th March 2017
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dont block him or change your number, just ignore him.

he has no come back

Harding91

Original Poster:

427 posts

169 months

Sunday 26th March 2017
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if i just ignore him like people are suggesting..

what do i do when the v5c eventually turns up? just sign it and send it on to him?

Also a side question, who do i contact if it doesn't turn up, it didn't come for 4 weeks when i bought the car so i sent a form for a replacement like suggested by the dvla website, its been 2-3 weeks and still no v5c has come, again he was fully aware of this when i sold it and i have a signed recipt saying i will pass it on as soon as i can

Iownacar

315 posts

85 months

Sunday 26th March 2017
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Harding91 said:
if i just ignore him like people are suggesting..

what do i do when the v5c eventually turns up? just sign it and send it on to him?

Also a side question, who do i contact if it doesn't turn up, it didn't come for 4 weeks when i bought the car so i sent a form for a replacement like suggested by the dvla website, its been 2-3 weeks and still no v5c has come, again he was fully aware of this when i sold it and i have a signed recipt saying i will pass it on as soon as i can
The last two cars I sold I used the online service to change the v5 into the buyers name, then destroyed the paper v5 I had. Did it in front of them and it updates the records there and then, saves posting. You will need his details tho . . .

Harding91

Original Poster:

427 posts

169 months

Sunday 26th March 2017
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Iownacar said:
The last two cars I sold I used the online service to change the v5 into the buyers name, then destroyed the paper v5 I had. Did it in front of them and it updates the records there and then, saves posting. You will need his details tho . . .
Oh didnt realise this is possible? I have his address and such as id obviously planned to send it on, this is great. Thank you!

Iownacar

315 posts

85 months

Sunday 26th March 2017
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Oh, and I agree, less to no contact with him is best. I had a mate whose other half sold her car, for circa £800, only for the idiot to contact her a week later after something went wrong with the car, blaming her for the fault, and she must of knew the car would fail. She's mid 20s and works as a mark up artist. Can't see her wrenching at cars biggrin

Some people take advantage of others good nature, which you seem to have, so minimize or cut off contact is best imo.

M-SportMatt

1,923 posts

138 months

Sunday 26th March 2017
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Hammer some frozen sausages in his lawn and shag his wife

That'll learn him