EVs... no one wants them!

[Seasonal Hero]

Essarell said:

I’m guessing this is the kind of thing that tickles your charging leads?
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/2024010953...

BYD, keeping oppressive, communist states in power so we can st on our own economy but in a green, virtuous signalling way?

You have nothing from China in your life I guess? You can only buy things made in the UK now you’ve taken that position. And immediately burn anything else. That should keep you busy over the long weekend.

Why does it bother you what I or anyone else drives? Tell us. Otherwise your endless bait and switch is plain odd.

[EddieSteadyGo]

Seasonal Hero said:

No you’re wrong. You are only able to drive it to the next post code. It’ll run out in 15 miles. You need either a diesel Discovery or a Panda.

There are certainly different use cases.... who was it here running a diesel Astra because they needed to tow their challenger tank up Ben Nevis at -20c?

[Essarell]

nickfrog said:

I assume you're not using anything from China.

And that to you, AQ is essentially about virtue signalling. Absolutely nothing else.

Opinions may vary fortunately.

Use anything Chinese? Nope, definitely not, in fact lunch today is at a lovely Sardinian place in town so they can’t even sneak a foodie one….

[Seasonal Hero]

Out of interest what are you posting here on?

Specify the make and model of computer or phone.

[nickfrog]

Essarell said:

Use anything Chinese? Nope, definitely not, in fact lunch today is at a lovely Sardinian place in town so they can’t even sneak a foodie one….

Enjoy lunch. Check around your home though you might be quite surprised by how much Chinese stuff you have in it. Or as part of it actually.

[Dave200]

Seasonal Hero said:

Out of interest what are you posting here on?

Specify the make and model of computer or phone.

You're wasting your breath. He's not going to reply to that because he's not interested in a discussion. He questioned the validity of the average UK mileage data that I posted yesterday. When I shared the source he mysteriously stopped replying.

[Essarell]

Dave200 said:

Seasonal Hero said:

Out of interest what are you posting here on?

Specify the make and model of computer or phone.

You're wasting your breath. He's not going to reply to that because he's not interested in a discussion. He questioned the validity of the average UK mileage data that I posted yesterday. When I shared the source he mysteriously stopped replying.

There was no need to reply, your data checked out, I’m guessing you normally expect a round of applause?

On the “do I have anything in the home from the CCCP” then of course I do, our government have ensured that arrangement is pretty much nailed on, in fact Xi Jinping probably has a whole department following this conversation right now, they’ll be well chuffed at your continued support.

[Dave200]

Essarell said:

Dave200 said:

Seasonal Hero said:

Out of interest what are you posting here on?

Specify the make and model of computer or phone.

You're wasting your breath. He's not going to reply to that because he's not interested in a discussion. He questioned the validity of the average UK mileage data that I posted yesterday. When I shared the source he mysteriously stopped replying.

There was no need to reply, your data checked out, I’m guessing you normally expect a round of applause?

On the “do I have anything in the home from the CCCP” then of course I do, our government have ensured that arrangement is pretty much nailed on, in fact Xi Jinping probably has a whole department following this conversation right now, they’ll be well chuffed at your continued support.

So it's ok for you to support the Chinese government but it's not ok for someone to buy an EV with bits made in China?

[Essarell]

Dave200 said:

Essarell said:

Dave200 said:

Seasonal Hero said:

Out of interest what are you posting here on?

Specify the make and model of computer or phone.

You're wasting your breath. He's not going to reply to that because he's not interested in a discussion. He questioned the validity of the average UK mileage data that I posted yesterday. When I shared the source he mysteriously stopped replying.

There was no need to reply, your data checked out, I’m guessing you normally expect a round of applause?

On the “do I have anything in the home from the CCCP” then of course I do, our government have ensured that arrangement is pretty much nailed on, in fact Xi Jinping probably has a whole department following this conversation right now, they’ll be well chuffed at your continued support.

So it's ok for you to support the Chinese government but it's not ok for someone to buy an EV with bits made in China?

The point is it’s being “mandated” if you can’t see the dangers in a rushed net zero mandate then more fool you.

[TheBinarySheep]

Dave200 said:

The problem is that it's possible to have a car charger installed that doesn't talk to the grid as I have. In that scenario it's impossible for the energy companies to tell what I'm using that overnight cheap energy rate for.

You have similar issues with those who have solar.

We'll end up with a per-mile tax. Gets around that issue.

[Dave200]

Essarell said:

Dave200 said:

Essarell said:

Dave200 said:

Seasonal Hero said:

Out of interest what are you posting here on?

Specify the make and model of computer or phone.

You're wasting your breath. He's not going to reply to that because he's not interested in a discussion. He questioned the validity of the average UK mileage data that I posted yesterday. When I shared the source he mysteriously stopped replying.

There was no need to reply, your data checked out, I’m guessing you normally expect a round of applause?

On the “do I have anything in the home from the CCCP” then of course I do, our government have ensured that arrangement is pretty much nailed on, in fact Xi Jinping probably has a whole department following this conversation right now, they’ll be well chuffed at your continued support.

So it's ok for you to support the Chinese government but it's not ok for someone to buy an EV with bits made in China?

The point is it’s being “mandated” if you can’t see the dangers in a rushed net zero mandate then more fool you.

But the government aren't mandating that all non-evs are crushed in January 2035. And I think you'll still be able to buy hybrids if new cars are your bag. It's not the end of the world.

[Essarell]

Dave200 said:

Essarell said:

Dave200 said:

Essarell said:

Dave200 said:

Seasonal Hero said:

Out of interest what are you posting here on?

Specify the make and model of computer or phone.

You're wasting your breath. He's not going to reply to that because he's not interested in a discussion. He questioned the validity of the average UK mileage data that I posted yesterday. When I shared the source he mysteriously stopped replying.

There was no need to reply, your data checked out, I’m guessing you normally expect a round of applause?

On the “do I have anything in the home from the CCCP” then of course I do, our government have ensured that arrangement is pretty much nailed on, in fact Xi Jinping probably has a whole department following this conversation right now, they’ll be well chuffed at your continued support.

So it's ok for you to support the Chinese government but it's not ok for someone to buy an EV with bits made in China?

The point is it’s being “mandated” if you can’t see the dangers in a rushed net zero mandate then more fool you.

But the government aren't mandating that all non-evs are crushed in January 2035. And I think you'll still be able to buy hybrids if new cars are your bag. It's not the end of the world.

[Seasonal Hero]

Essarell said:

On the “do I have anything in the home from the CCCP” then of course I do

Edited by Seasonal Hero on Friday 29th March 10:46

[Essarell]

Seasonal Hero said:

Essarell said:

On the “do I have anything in the home from the CCCP” then of course I do

I know, I keep mixing up my communist dictatorships, must do better for the greater good etc etc

[loudlashadjuster]

This thread is great value

Keep it up, chaps

[Oilchange]

Perspective, if all the taxes were equivalent, the petrol driven cars would look MUCH more attractive. Frikkin governments!

[GT9]

Essarell said:

rushed net zero mandate.

Define 'rushed'.
I'm reading this as 'please wait until I've done my consuming and just let the next generation deal with it'.

[740EVTORQUES]

Actually that’s not right.

If petrol and especially diesel cars were taxed in relation to the environmental and health harms these cause then they would be taxed more heavily even than now.

Let alone commercial airliners. Air travel would be priced out of all but the wealthiest tourists.

There’s a good case for keeping taxes on EVs lower as they cause less damage to the environment both local and global.

[ChocolateFrog]

Oilchange said:

Perspective, if all the taxes were equivalent, the petrol driven cars would look MUCH more attractive. Frikkin governments!

Well du'h.

[D4rez]

Essarell said:

Dave200 said:

Essarell said:

Dave200 said:

Essarell said:

Dave200 said:

Seasonal Hero said:

Out of interest what are you posting here on?

Specify the make and model of computer or phone.

You're wasting your breath. He's not going to reply to that because he's not interested in a discussion. He questioned the validity of the average UK mileage data that I posted yesterday. When I shared the source he mysteriously stopped replying.

There was no need to reply, your data checked out, I’m guessing you normally expect a round of applause?

On the “do I have anything in the home from the CCCP” then of course I do, our government have ensured that arrangement is pretty much nailed on, in fact Xi Jinping probably has a whole department following this conversation right now, they’ll be well chuffed at your continued support.

So it's ok for you to support the Chinese government but it's not ok for someone to buy an EV with bits made in China?

The point is it’s being “mandated” if you can’t see the dangers in a rushed net zero mandate then more fool you.

But the government aren't mandating that all non-evs are crushed in January 2035. And I think you'll still be able to buy hybrids if new cars are your bag. It's not the end of the world.

Wouldn’t worry about it.. absolutely diddly squat you can do about it other than enjoy your BEV like a good citizen or buy a used car.